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VSS3 VS ALTIVERB

Hi want to get a good plugin reverb narrowed it down to 2 VSS3 or Altiverb?
The VSS3 will cost a little more for the powercore unplugged card, think its worth it?
-----What would you do if you had to choose? Anyone have experience with both?
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get the altiverb demo. doesnt expire, just beeps away (which gets VERY annoying though) but really, it is an amazing reverb plug. No experience with VSS3... but thumbs up for altiverb!
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Are you planning on using it in post?

Each of them has unique features. Personally I like designing my own spaces to detail, so I'd choose VSS3 if I had to.

Being a member of this forum, I strongly advice you to get both


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I have both. They are quite different, but both are very good reverbs.
For post I usualy use Altiverb for all my natural spaces (the outdoors IRs are unbeatable). It is also fantastic for metallic resonances, telephone & radio FX, etc. (as long as Speakerphone is not out yet). The snapshot feature is worth $$$$$ for post use.
VSS3 gets used for everything else, like synthetic reverb FX or occasionally when I can't find an IR in Altiverb that I need to create a specific ambience.

You should get both, really!
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Hello, a few days ago but buy VSS3 TDM TC web site is only to download the version 1.1.16 (does not work with Pro Tools 9 HD), I need the newest 1.2.2 or something, because from the official website can not download, if anyone has the installer would you kindly send it to me my mail?, thank you very much
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VSS3 - hands down for me. Never really liked Altiverb. I have all the system 6000 Plugins and a System 6000 as well.


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VSS3 - hands down for me. Never really liked Altiverb. I have all the system 6000 Plugins and a System 6000 as well.


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I love the sound of VSS3, the problem is, PowerCore is long discontinued, TDM support will soon be dropped meaning the only way to run it is on a System 6000. If you want a reverb for each stem, you will need at least 2 of those, so not the most cost effective solution.

Now, if TC made a multi-channel AAX Native & DSP version for under £1000, I think they'd be on to a winner.
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I might be nuts...but I find Valhalla Room gives me everything I loved about VSS3- at least what I liked in the TDM plugin version.... for $50 bucks its a steal- but I think that all of Sean's plugins are a steal...
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VSS3 sounds incredible, in my opinion better than Altiverb, but I'd be reluctant to buy it for the reasons mentioned.

I use VSS3 at work and Valhalla Room at home. You might also look at Lexicon PCM which I believe is half price these days. Check Audio Deluxe or Plugin Discounts.
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I love the sound of VSS3, the problem is, PowerCore is long discontinued
TC used to have the M40 reverb plugin for sale which was a great native TC reverb sound... Anyone know how to buy it?
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I might be nuts...but I find Valhalla Room gives me everything I loved about VSS3- at least what I liked in the TDM plugin version.... for $50 bucks its a steal- but I think that all of Sean's plugins are a steal...
That was the endorsement I was looking for. Been very tempted but kept thinking "for $50 something must be wrong". Do they have a surround option or do you just have to run more instances?

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Altiverb is a GREAT tool for postproduction. Excellent quality, amazing ir's (outdoors, indoors) - if you need realistic reverbs for post that's the way to go.
And it's surround, vss3 is stereo only.
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I use the reverbs on my UAD sattelite. Along with all the other great plugins they make.
Between the Lexicon 224, EMT verbs as well Realverb and Dreamberb, and then Revibe for surround, I'm pretty much covered.

But I would love to see TC as well as lexicon selling their stuff as plugins.
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I use the reverbs on my UAD sattelite. Along with all the other great plugins they make.
Between the Lexicon 224, EMT verbs as well Realverb and Dreamberb, and then Revibe for surround, I'm pretty much covered.

But I would love to see TC as well as lexicon selling their stuff as plugins.
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You can get the TC M40 with hardware, I really like it!
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That was the endorsement I was looking for. Been very tempted but kept thinking "for $50 something must be wrong". Do they have a surround option or do you just have to run more instances?

Cheers!
hey Tom- I really dont ever use surround verbs- I do often upmix through Waves 226 though.... of course, since Revibe is always a 5.1 verb no matter what output buss its working on, that doesnt count....

I run Altiverb that way as well...

Sean's stuff is probably some of my favorite reverbs ever- the Vintage verb is like time travelling- to the 1980's/90's, and Valhalla Room, as mentioned, gives me everything I love from the VSS3 reverbs....

at any rate- you wont go wrong with the Valhalla stuff- its wonderful....
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Actually, TC should team up with Uaudio. Hopefully after the 224 we will see a 480 and a 960 reverb as well.
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Actually, TC should team up with Uaudio. Hopefully after the 224 we will see a 480 and a 960 reverb as well.
That would be a dream come true. They just did a survey a few weeks ago about what to develop next so it might help to email them and let them know.
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I found Valhalla to be unusable in a Post environment.
Lots of presets but the automation is not good.
Does not change on the fly and is not reliable.
I had high hopes, The VSS3 is an excellent sounding verb. I love it for dialog.Unfotunetly I am on PT and HDX and it doesn't work for that.
I wish TC would create a VSS3 HDX version. I would buy it in a second.
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+1 on Valhalla, love it... I also use ren verb when I need to dial in a quick preset
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I never automate verbs, I use multiple reverb paths.
I've never automating a reverb snapshot that convenient.

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I never automate verbs, I use multiple reverb paths.
I've never automating a reverb snapshot that convenient.

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I couldn't mix without automated reverbs.
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I found Valhalla to be unusable in a Post environment.
Lots of presets but the automation is not good.
Does not change on the fly and is not reliable.
I had high hopes, The VSS3 is an excellent sounding verb. I love it for dialog.Unfotunetly I am on PT and HDX and it doesn't work for that.
I wish TC would create a VSS3 HDX version. I would buy it in a second.
Marty, did you get a chance to check out the UAD 224? It's been my goto verb for adding verb to the tails of last minute music edits.
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[QUOTE=Henchman;8575312
But I would love to see TC as well as lexicon selling their stuff as plugins.[/QUOTE]

Hi Hench, lexicon acutually sells the PCM NATIVE BUNDLE. I Believe, plug-ins made after those legendary hardware.

check then out !

I also would love TC VSS3 as Native Plugin...
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Hi Hench, lexicon acutually sells the PCM NATIVE BUNDLE. I Believe, plug-ins made after those legendary hardware.
I haven't been able to get the 224 sound out of the native plugins.. Come to think of it an entire UAD2 quad satellite and 224 plugin worked out the same price as just the full lexicon native bundle I think

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I found Valhalla to be unusable in a Post environment.
Lots of presets but the automation is not good.
Does not change on the fly and is not reliable.
I had high hopes, The VSS3 is an excellent sounding verb. I love it for dialog.Unfotunetly I am on PT and HDX and it doesn't work for that.
I wish TC would create a VSS3 HDX version. I would buy it in a second.
Marti- I have not used the Valhalla stuff with automation... I know I do automate ReVibe all the time though- since that is one I would use for mix vs design-

did you talk to Sean about the problems?
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