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Anti-piracy ad uses pirated music.

Anti-Piracy Movie Ads Caught Using Pirated Music - Entertainment News - Pedestrian TV

Oh, this is just hilarious. A perfect example of big business thinking there's one rule for them, and one rule for the rest of us, and in the process utterly undermining their own authority. Now how do you expect us to take those annoying unskippable adverts that make it all the more tempting to rip your copy even if you did buy it legally seriously?
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This is quite a big deal at the moment here in the Netherlands. The chief of the Buma/Stemra corporation, responsible for copyright management, actually offered to sort it out but then wanted to have a third of that million euro's for himself. This idiot has now been fired, of course, but it perfectly demonstrates that this level of corruption is seen as the most normal thing in the world. It was staggering to see how this person didn't even realize how corrupt he was when he made that offer on public radio.
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Anti-Piracy Movie Ads Caught Using Pirated Music - Entertainment News - Pedestrian TV

Oh, this is just hilarious. A perfect example of big business thinking there's one rule for them, and one rule for the rest of us, and in the process utterly undermining their own authority. Now how do you expect us to take those annoying unskippable adverts that make it all the more tempting to rip your copy even if you did buy it legally seriously?
Troll Much? Just Stop It. This has nothing to do with piracy, and in FACT the song in question is neither stolen or pirated.

See here;

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noticed his music was suddenly being used for much wider use than he had originally agreed to in contract
Wow! He has a CONTRACT! This a CONTRACT DISPUTE, period. When I can get contracts from The Pirate Bay, Megaupload and others to dispute that will be a good day...

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with piracy.
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This is quite a big deal at the moment here in the Netherlands. The chief of the Buma/Stemra corporation, responsible for copyright management, actually offered to sort it out but then wanted to have a third of that million euro's for himself. This idiot has now been fired, of course, but it perfectly demonstrates that this level of corruption is seen as the most normal thing in the world. It was staggering to see how this person didn't even realize how corrupt he was when he made that offer on public radio.
That guy was a scumbag and those with responsibility for him did the right thing by firing him. There are shady and unethical people in every business.

This still doesn't change the fact that this case has NOTHING to do with Piracy.

It may be embarrassing, but it's still just a contract dispute.
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Troll Much? Just Stop It. This has nothing to do with piracy, and in FACT the song in question is neither stolen or pirated.

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Wow! He has a CONTRACT! This a CONTRACT DISPUTE, period. When I can get contracts from The Pirate Bay, Megaupload and others to dispute that will be a good day...

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with piracy.
Exactly.
It's pretty sad when people don't read beyond misleading headlines...
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It doesn't take away that when you want to teach a lesson about piracy but you can't even read a contract and get the used song cleared, you just shoot a bullet in your own foot.

It is not Pirate Bay, but for the average Joe who as to watch this kind of dumb message before he can watch the movie he paid for, it's not the best way to promote anti-piracy.
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Most people will never hear about it.
Bottom line, it was a mistake, not a calculated act of piracy which is what these campaigns are against. Second, the composer is going to earn a packet, even if a little late.
Thirdly, if the pro-piracy movement has to trumpet the odd mistake and unusual contractual dispute, it shows they really have very little in their armoury.
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Did you talk about piracy with people not related to music recently ? This is exactly the kind of "mistake" they love to point out, saying how evil are music labels "stealing" revenue from artists. And unfortunately, explaining them that it's contract issue will not have half the impact this kind of news had in the fisrt place in their mind.
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Did you talk about piracy with people not related to music recently ?
All the time.
Average people don't understand the music industry and don't care.
They care about keeping their jobs, putting food on the table, and unfortunately they care about accessing entertainment without having to buy it.

The few people who notice negative commentary on the music companies are a niche group of chattering classes, often young, often nerdy and often equally into music and tech.
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Average people don't understand the music industry and don't care.
Yes, and this is exaclty my point: they'll keep in mind that they saw somewhere that a musicien was ripped off by an "anti-piracy" group. And they'll just laugh about it and will never try to understand what really happened. But this is negative view they'll keep about music industry somewhere inside their head. How many time did I hear from someone that he doesn't like this or that and when ask why, they just answer "because I heard / read it somewhere" ? This is exaclty how you build bad a priori about something. When you deal with anti-piracy, you have to be irreproachable with copyright.
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Mistakes happen. Sometimes ironically and tragically, but Piracy is not a mistake and there are no contracts and no recourse.

In another light, this situation shows exactly why piracy is bad and stronger copyright laws are required as this composer had gotten paid, is contractually protected, and is going to get paid even more as a result.

Victims of Piracy have no such protection, or ability to collect.








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