28th October 2011
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Newzbin2 ordered to be blocked in Britain!
Britain’s largest internet service provider [BT], ordered by the High Court in London to block access to the illegal website Newzbin2 within 14 days. BT ordered to block Newzbin2 filesharing site within 14 days | Technology | guardian.co.uk
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Originally Posted by MPAA Blog In March
2010, Newsbin 2’s predecessor Newzbin was found to be infringing copyright and was ordered by the High Court to filter out the illegal content. The site did not comply with the order and re-launched itself as “Newzbin2”. The new site is based outside of the UK and its owners are operating anonymously.
After Newzbin refused to filter infringing content, the MPA had no option but to ask Britain’s largest ISP to block the site. The High Court ordered BT to block the site in July and the details on the implementation of that blocking order were released today. |
I have a feeling that alot of the Bernes treaty countries may start to follow suit* in the near future. (wishful thinking?)
* of this and similar measures such as the proposed 'Protect IP' Bill being circulated in the US Congress
Another win for creatives in the IP world...but this is just a battle.. the war is just starting. (at least our counter attack... we've been getting pummled for the last 15-years...)
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29th October 2011
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fantastic news, the worm may turn slowly, but it turns...
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30th October 2011
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by rack gear  fantastic news, the worm may turn slowly, but it turns... | Yup, i'm glad it's finally starting. Whether we'll stall or rev is yet to be seen... but at least the ol jalopy is out of the garage!
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30th October 2011
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Hmm kill one and ten more crop up. I'm afraid this won't do a thing. Plus there's always proxies. The real solution would be for the music biz to buy out all the torrent sites, keep them as they are and take ad revenue. And share.
I'm amazed pirate bay is still the torrent haven it is, considering the new company's emphasis on making it legit.
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30th October 2011
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#5 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by wcb123 Hmm kill one and ten more crop up. I'm afraid this won't do a thing. Plus there's always proxies. The real solution would be for the music biz to buy out all the torrent sites, keep them as they are and take ad revenue. And share.
I'm amazed pirate bay is still the torrent haven it is, considering the new company's emphasis on making it legit.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Gearslutz.com | no the real solution will be real legislation that creates real consequences and removes the initiative to create a pirate site in the first place, like the PROTECT IP ACT and SOPA.
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30th October 2011
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Originally Posted by wcb123 Hmm kill one and ten more crop up. I'm afraid this won't do a thing. Plus there's always proxies. | Sure, one down isn't the end of the story... though it can be applauded, especially if it's on the heels of bigger things [legislation] to come. Quote: |
Originally Posted by wcb123 The real solution would be for the music biz to buy out all the torrent sites, keep them as they are and take ad revenue. And share.
I'm amazed pirate bay is still the torrent haven it is, considering the new company's emphasis on making it legit. | That's a recipe for disaster... First of all
"the music biz" isn't a single entity... every band is their own company. You make it sound like (besides being a P.A.) there's a single decision maker and not a million different companies with different agendas.
No, enforcement of the laws already on the books is all that is needed. Just wait... your decade of looting will soon come to an end.
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6th November 2011
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Originally Posted by AwwDeOhh ... Just wait... your decade of looting will soon come to an end. | In which decade will it come to an end? BBC News - Newzbin claims BT block 'not working'
From an enforcement point of view, Newzbin2 was probably a poor choice as an initial target. It has a larger proportion of technically savvy users than the average cyberlocker. However, it served a purpose as a test case. There's now a procedure in place for rights holders to follow.
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7th November 2011
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Originally Posted by Don Hills In which decade will it come to an end? BBC News - Newzbin claims BT block 'not working'
From an enforcement point of view, Newzbin2 was probably a poor choice as an initial target. It has a larger proportion of technically savvy users than the average cyberlocker. However, it served a purpose as a test case. There's now a procedure in place for rights holders to follow. | but it's progress, and the increased defiance and "work a rounds" show the true intent is to steal, and engage in illegal activity... eventually, legislation will have to take into account "intent" as it does with so many other laws.
personally, I'm happy to see piracy driven underground and out of the mainstream. in the early to mid 90s, cracks were currency BECAUSE they were difficult to obtain, and NOT for everyone. when piracy went mainstream it became super lame... and also did the most damage.
I wasn't that bothered by piracy in the early 90s because it was an underground, sub culture of tech geeks trying to out do one another for social status, which probably was ultimately manifested in Napster... but once piracy went mainstream it was super lame, there's no social bargaining power in doing something any 9 year old can do...
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7th November 2011
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This may actually be a blessing in disguise.
Step back for a moment...
... courts/judges do NOT like to have their decisions shunted.
People who willingly do so and then brag about it, are just asking for more serious sanctions.
These folk will end up being their own worst enemy.. Any "breaking the internet" blame can be places soley on their shoulders, as future legislation on this stuff is NOT going to become somehow more timid than the last..
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7th November 2011
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Originally Posted by AwwDeOhh ... People who willingly do so and then brag about it, are just asking for more serious sanctions. ... | Indeed. If I seriously wanted to keep doing something prohibited, I'd keep quiet and do it. But then, I'm no longer "young, dumb, and full of c**" - er, brimming with testosterone". (Well, 2 out of 3 at least...)
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8th November 2011
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Don Hills Indeed. If I seriously wanted to keep doing something prohibited, I'd keep quiet and do it. But then, I'm no longer "young, dumb, and full of c**" - er, brimming with testosterone". (Well, 2 out of 3 at least...)
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23rd November 2011
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#12 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by wcb123 Hmm kill one and ten more crop up. I'm afraid this won't do a thing. | You have to start somewhere and this is a good a place as any. Quote: |
Plus there's always proxies. The real solution would be for the music biz to buy out all the torrent sites, keep them as they are and take ad revenue. And share.
| Proxies, schmoxies. The average user doesn't want to know about proxies, or any other geek "solutions".
The average user isn't a geek and has no interest in anything that smacks of hacking. Remember, the average user can't even be arsed to learn to program a VCR.
Given a choice between paying for convenience and learning to jump through hoops for free most people will pay. Even if the hoops are very large and easy to jump through.
Nobody ever went broke by overestimating the laziness of humanity.
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23rd November 2011
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Nobody ever went broke by overestimating the laziness of humanity.
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Truely.
An individual may be smart and motivated --but people are dumb and lazy!
Just make it inconvenient enough and only the truely dedicated will bother.
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