I started building a small studio

[stevep]

Hi Steve,

It isn't fixed yet but the possible cause is identified. It's from a terrace above.

It's looking nice but nothing compared to your place!!!!
I found the thread about your studio construction a few days ago and I am digesting it Great work! For what I've seen so far you did almost all the work, right?

Great work! the floor looks nice,

Yea, i did all the work but i did have some help from a friend with some of the finish trim and NeilTdeal built the racks

Dude,/....... those are some Huge dogs


keep up the good work

[EduardoApolonia]

Update:

The drywall is done

It's funny how 3 people working 7 hours can do more than me alone in 1-2 hours a day

Next will be the plywood (maybe I'll have do do it myself)

Here are some pics of the drywall:






Side photo to show the various layers

[stevep]

Looking good , Yea it helps to have helpers


Wait till you are hanging sheets on the ceiling

[TER]

What will the final floor surface be? Sheetrock is great for mass but doesn't take dents or liquid spills too well!

I love the full length cable trough and cable paths under the deck.

Looks like you're using 2x3 studs for the floor... or is that some other dimension that we don't have over here?

What did you use as pucks for floating the deck? I'm looking for some for a project-

Thanks... looking good!

-tom

[bigbongo]

thanks for taking time to post all this eduado it's fascinating.

for anyone thinking of doing something similar what's your budget? [ approx? ]

bb

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by stevep

Looking good , Yea it helps to have helpers


Wait till you are hanging sheets on the ceiling

That's an impossible task for one guy

Originally Posted by TER

What will the final floor surface be? Sheetrock is great for mass but doesn't take dents or liquid spills too well!

There's still missing the final layer which is Plywood

Originally Posted by TER

Looks like you're using 2x3 studs for the floor... or is that some other dimension that we don't have over here?

It's 44mm x 94mm (It's a little less than 2x4)

Originally Posted by TER

What did you use as pucks for floating the deck? I'm looking for some for a project-

I used Neoprene pads 45mm x 45mm x 25mm

Originally Posted by bigbongo

thanks for taking time to post all this eduado it's fascinating.

for anyone thinking of doing something similar what's your budget? [ approx? ]
bb

I tried to make an estimate cost but I gave up. There are always things that I didn't think of. And there are things that I don't have because I couldn't find them yet. But I am keeping all receipts to know how much I spent in the end.

[jpcourt]

Good luck and keep us up to date with new pics.

[EduardoApolonia]

I finished installing the last layer (plywood).
It's still missing some screws and I have to caulk this last layer but it can be done meanwhile.

Speaking about caulk, it has been a nightmare.
First, I couldn't find any acoustical caulk here in Portugal.
Even all the companies that do some acoustic work that I contacted didn't know what acoustical caulk is!!

I had to buy it from Spain, from the distributor of Auralex:

For now 11 of these:



Almost 20 € each!!!

Then the problem has been getting the caulking gun for these tubes that have 857ml (29 oz). After searching all stores nearby and the internet for Portugal I could only get guns for 300ml. I found it only in the US but they wouldn't sell it to Portugal
I then contacted the spanish Auralex distributor that told me that they have the same problem in Spain and in the UK, so he arranged a gun for me through Auralex US. Should come in a few days.


Here are the photos of the finished floating floor







Side photo to show all floor layers.





Next step: Wall framing!!

[DeepSpace]

Coming along very nicely, Eduardo.

Thanks for keeping us updated with photos. It's interesting to see the progress and to get all the visual details!!

[Cojo]

Really nice, good work!

One thing I've been thinking about is that I understand that you have some channels under the floor - isn't there a possibillity for sound to leak thrugh?

/Cojo

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by Cojo

Really nice, good work!

One thing I've been thinking about is that I understand that you have some channels under the floor - isn't there a possibillity for sound to leak thrugh?

/Cojo

I thought about that too, but since all channel outs have lids, it should depend on the quality of the lids insulation.

[DeepSpace]

Originally Posted by EduardoApolonia

...it should depend on the quality of the lids insulation.

Or the lead insulation.

For spot leaks, access covers and the like, bonded lead (eg lead sheet bonded to the back of MDF and affixed to the rear of the channel lids) is your friend.

Good thing about it is that it can be done as a retro-fit if necessary.

[EduardoApolonia]

Update:

Wall framing has begun.

Pics:

[EduardoApolonia]

Things are getting faster now, there are 2 persons working on it now

more pics

[bendecido]

nice one looks great lookin forward to c ing what u put inside ythe frames im guesin rockwool. keep it up

[McPhaul]

I just found this thread. Looks Great!

[TeamSSK]

cool build, an inspiration indeed!

[Astrain]

Very Nice, Im also building my studio and seeing your progress is very inspiring.

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by bendecido

nice one looks great lookin forward to c ing what u put inside ythe frames im guesin rockwool. keep it up

Yes, It will have rockwool.

[EduardoApolonia]

update:

[stevep]

EduardoApolonia .Things are getting faster now, there are 2 persons working on it now

Cheater ...

You guys are doing great !


keep the pics coming


On the caulk,.........20 dollars a tube will break the bank
i used over 1.200$ in caulking , maybe 3 dollars a tube or less.
thats like 600 tubes of caulk

see if you can find somewhere other than Auralex to get it , try a HVAC, or Armstrong dealer or a commercial insulation dealer, where you get your 703 they should know where to get the caulk....... maybe

Your better off taping and using joint compound on the drywall, its denser and seals fine and its cheep,

use caulking only around the top and bottom of the wall where you leave a 1/4 " gap.

or where you dont want transmission like windows...ect........

[big country]

whats the difference in a 20.00 tube of caulk and a $3.00 tube .

thats nuts. mumble mumble auralux

[stevep]

Originally Posted by big country

whats the difference in a 20.00 tube of caulk and a $3.00 tube .

thats nuts. mumble mumble Auralex

The "acoustic" caulk wont skin over and never completely dries... so later there shouldn't be any shrinkage

there are fine caulks out there that are not labeled "acoustic"

but when its buried deep in the walls you cant go back and redo it... so my thought is do it right the first time

Also when you buy the stuff by the truckload they give you a discount

Company's like Auralex must have a 70%mark up or more

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by stevep

Cheater

You guys are doing great !
keep the pics coming

I know But I have to work to pay the studio Don't have much free time
I wasn't supposed to do anything from the beggining but since the guy who is working on it now wasn't available I started doing it.

Originally Posted by stevep

On the caulk,.........20 dollars a tube will break the bank
i used over 1.200$ in caulking , maybe 3 dollars a tube or less.
thats like 600 tubes of caulk

see if you can find somewhere other than Auralex to get it , try a HVAC, or Armstrong dealer or a commercial insulation dealer, where you get your 703 they should know where to get the caulk....... maybe

Your better off taping and using joint compound on the drywall, its denser and seals fine and its cheep,

use caulking only around the top and bottom of the wall where you leave a 1/4 " gap.

or where you dont want transmission like windows...ect........

Like I said before I couldn't find any acoustic caulk here in Portugal, what I found that was the nearest was a very elastic caulk that cost me about 6Eur a 300ml tube so it's not that cheap. The Auralex cost me 18Eur but it is a 857ml tube so in the end it is almost the same price.

The cheapest caulk I've seen here was 3Eur for a tube of 300ml.
My studio is very small compared to yours so the difference will not be that much .


Thanks for your support Steve.
I've been reading your thread, very inspiring thumbsup

[stevep]

Originally Posted by EduardoApolonia

I know But I have to work to pay the studio Don't have much free time
I wasn't supposed to do anything from the beggining but since the guy who is working on it now wasn't available I started doing it.




Like I said before I couldn't find any acoustic caulk here in Portugal, what I found that was the nearest was a very elastic caulk that cost me about 6Eur a 300ml tube so it's not that cheap. The Auralex cost me 18Eur but it is a 857ml tube so in the end it is almost the same price.

The cheapest caulk I've seen here was 3Eur for a tube of 300ml.
My studio is very small compared to yours so the difference will not be that much .


Thanks for your support Steve.
I've been reading your thread, very inspiring thumbsup

Cool,

You are doing the right thing by using the best materials you can.
its way easier to do it right now than to have to go back to redo something

dont worry about the gear, spend your $$$$ on the room, the gear can be added easily later but the room needs to be the focus now.


keep up the good work !

[EduardoApolonia]

Originally Posted by stevep

Cool,

You are doing the right thing by using the best materials you can.
its way easier to do it right now than to have to go back to redo something

dont worry about the gear, spend your $$$$ on the room, the gear can be added easily later but the room needs to be the focus now.


keep up the good work !

Exactly!!!!

[EduardoApolonia]

Not exactly where it is at the moment but just to keep this updated with the progress of it...

Tomorrow wall framing will be done







Bye bye window... but I will keep the other windows...

[EduardoApolonia]

The wall framing is done.

I'm waiting for the HVAC to be installed and the ceiling isolators to arrive to start the ceiling framing.

Still choosing doors and windows (This things are very expensive )

[mastermix]

Great thread!!! Best of luck on the build!

Slutty racks you have there too...

[justwanderedin]

Looks great - especially since it seems you've been doing most of it by yourself ! I am looking forward to seeing more pictures...

Best of luck to you!