10th May 2012
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#31 | | Lives for gear
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I can only see the last drawing.
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10th May 2012
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#32 | | Gear addict
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Hey Matt,
Do you guys something similar to our ADA laws (handicap accessible)?
That spiral staircase (as cool as it is) might be an issue.
Looks great, though. I'm excited for you!
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10th May 2012
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#33 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Good Luck Matt...big move.
The layouts look great. I see a potential three leaf situation developing in studio A, but that's only f you do double walls to the inside of the block? outer walls...
nice height...nice space
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10th May 2012
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#34 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Glassindo The layouts look great. I see a potential three leaf situation developing in studio A, but that's only f you do double walls to the inside of the block? outer wall... | I can assure you it is not the case.
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10th May 2012
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#35 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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nice.
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10th May 2012
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#36 | | Gear interested
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Nice work Matt. Hopefully I'll get to see it someday!
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10th May 2012
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#37 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by acorneau Hey Matt,
Do you guys something similar to our ADA laws (handicap accessible)?
That spiral staircase (as cool as it is) might be an issue.
Looks great, though. I'm excited for you! | The staircase is indeed an issue...
Though, problem is to fit another type of staircase in that space.
We'll find a solution  or see if we can get an approval form the local authorities anyway.
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10th May 2012
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#38 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by Syncamorea I can only see the last drawing. | Same here
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10th May 2012
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#39 | | Lives for gear
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looking fab matthew!!!
thomas... I hope to finally hear Steffen and Darius´ rooms later this summer....
can´t wait....happy planning and take some time off for surfing, when you´re down under! |
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10th May 2012
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#40 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by tomdarude happy planning and take some time off for surfing, when you´re down under!  | Hey Tom! I'm actually surfing next week-end... But a bit closer to the office than Australia
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10th May 2012
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#41 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by Northward I can assure you it is not the case. | so the inside walls are not double?
Will it be 2X6 wood with three layers of 5/8 to the inside?
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10th May 2012
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#42 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Glassindo so the inside walls are not double?
Will it be 2X6 wood with three layers of 5/8 to the inside? | You are referring to a quick sketchup drawing made by Matthew that, as he mentioned in his post, is not accurate nor representative of the current design.
He just wants to give a quick idea of the overall space while here we're working on the design.
There is no triple leaf. There is an inner shell (on the floated floor) and an outer shell (parts of it being the actual building structure).
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10th May 2012
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#43 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Northward The staircase is indeed an issue... | should put in one of those really cool MIB elevators... |
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10th May 2012
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#44 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
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Originally Posted by Northward You are referring to a quick sketchup drawing made by Matthew that, as he mentioned in his post, is not accurate nor representative of the current design.
He just wants to give a quick idea of the overall space while here we're working on the design.
There is no triple leaf. There is an inner shell (on the floated floor) and an outer shell (parts of it being the actual building structure). | Understood
Im just curious as to the approach with that much space to work with regarding the isolation walls and outside walls...
can you give us any details on what system is being used to float the floor? Is it similar to Darius' floating concrete slab?
It is really great to have someone doing actual construction giving feedback and whatever details they can.
Thanks again for letting us in on this.
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11th May 2012
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#45 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Northward The staircase is indeed an issue...
Though, problem is to fit another type of staircase in that space.
We'll find a solution  or see if we can get an approval form the local authorities anyway. | Hi Thomas,
the stair will need to comply with fire escape codes, but, may not be an issue with pwd codes, as although pwd access is required to all parts of a class 5 building there are exemptions due to unjustifiable hardships.
i would suspect as long as you have pwd compliance on the ground floor with amenities accessible from the ground floor (could be external ablutions block) you would be ok.
the NCC in australia also allows for alternative solutions that can be explored. you may also be able to argue that the ground floor studio has the same use as the upstairs studio.
it is your building certifier that will sign off on all of this regardless of my comments above.
if you don't get the appropriate answers from your certifier pm me and i can put you in touch with a certifier who is on the board of the ncc and knows the codes inside out.
p.s. i am not a building certifier. :-)
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11th May 2012
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#46 | | Lives for gear
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Looks great Matt, I reckon you should install a bat pole next to those stairs for a quick entry in the morning.
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11th May 2012
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#47 | | Lives for gear
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Looking forward to it. This FTB room model seems to work out extensively well. Good to see you're working with some great forward thinking designers! Can't wait to see the construction. I bet you can't either!
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11th May 2012
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#48 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Bit everywhere.
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Originally Posted by gouge Hi Thomas,
the stair will need to comply with fire escape codes, but, may not be an issue with pwd codes, as although pwd access is required to all parts of a class 5 building there are exemptions due to unjustifiable hardships.
i would suspect as long as you have pwd compliance on the ground floor with amenities accessible from the ground floor (could be external ablutions block) you would be ok.
the NCC in australia also allows for alternative solutions that can be explored. you may also be able to argue that the ground floor studio has the same use as the upstairs studio.
it is your building certifier that will sign off on all of this regardless of my comments above.
if you don't get the appropriate answers from your certifier pm me and i can put you in touch with a certifier who is on the board of the ncc and knows the codes inside out.
p.s. i am not a building certifier. :-) | Thanks a lot for the advice!
So far it seems that if it's only a storage space, these staircases are allowed. It's in the event that we decide to put an office or lounge on top of the studio that we have a problem.
We're currently detailing the Mastering Suite, once we're done with that, I'll dig in that problem a bit more. There's for sure a solution, as this must be a common problem in such buildings.
We deal with these kinds of issues all the time. It can be tiring sometimes - as often you'll bump into contradictory regulations, or "very local" regulations that aren't mentioned in the regional code. Which leads to rather Kafkaesque situations to say the least.
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11th May 2012
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#49 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Glassindo can you give us any details on what system is being used to float the floor? Is it similar to Darius' floating concrete slab? | Well, it is similar in the concept yes. There really is only a few ways to float a floor properly, and only a few systems that I trust. From there it's a matter of getting your maths right (load repartition, natural frequency etc).
This floor will likely be floated on Sylomer or BSW Regufoam. We're aiming at a natural frequency of 7Hz to 8Hz. I'll only be able to proceed with the final calculation for the floor decoupling once I know the definitive load I am dealing with - so basically when I have finished the studio bunker with all treatment in and can estimate as precisely as possible the weight of the structure and how it is spread over the floor area. Then depending on the stiffness and mass of the system I probably will need to ventilate it too.
We'll see!
Some recent floating fun in Holland can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/pages/North...s/106287663371 |
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12th May 2012
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#50 | | Lives for gear
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12th May 2012
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#51 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Northward This floor will likely be floated on Sylomer or BSW Regufoam. We're aiming at a natural frequency of 7Hz to 8Hz. | Hi Thomas, it was interesting to see the spring floated flooring from Holland. I'm not ruling it out entirely just need to get some quotes to see what the price difference would be.
WRT the stairs, I'll also have a look at the straight wrap around option as well. Maybe something like that may work & meet the accessibility requirements better. There's a few solutions just need to find the best one. A friend of mine is a town planner & he is discussing some solutions with a commercial building certifier. I did like the look of the spiral though & it does keep space to a minimum. I'm used to spiral stairs as I'm using them daily in my house.
This week I met with an interior decorator on site to discuss options for the reflective front wall, fabric colours & other ideas for flooring, paint, etc. I'm looking to keep with a modern but warm feel to the place with a splash of colour either in furnishings or other highlighted areas.
At least there won't be too much down time when I build the studio as my current room will remain fully operational right up until we transfer the gear across to the new room. Luckily I still have road cases for the Duntechs..
Not sure why some of you can only see the last drawing I put up. Maybe try a different browser? They're all showing up fine here on Google Chrome.
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29th May 2012
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#52 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Update
Most of the final plans are done with Thomas & Silvia has come up with some great ideas regarding the stairs & layout of the entrance areas. I'll have something more concrete to show you all shortly regarding the development on this front.
A decision was made not to use springs to float the floor because it would've added an extra 100mm of height to the overall height which in turn would've impacted negatively on the mezzanine studio B/office space.
I have meetings on site this week with 2 contractors to discuss quotes and construction time lines. I'm also meeting a local architect/designer who will be drawing up plans of the entrance, mezzanine, stairs, kitchenette & toilet to conform with Australian Building Codes and accessibility requirements etc. I'll no more on that later this week.
More soon.
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29th May 2012
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#53 | | Gear maniac
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Can't wait to see the build development..... subscribed |
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29th May 2012
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#54 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Studio Plans
Here is the completed studio shell plan which Thomas has given me permission to post (as the details have been modified/stripped down). |
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7th June 2012
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#55 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Entrance, Toilet, Stairs, Kitchenette, Mezzanine, Studio B
Here is a quick update. We've got some certifiable plans for the ancillary areas which includes the entrance, toilet, stairs, mezzanine with kitchenette and studio B. I also have some materials lists from Thomas which we are currently checking Australian sources for similar products. |
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3rd July 2012
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#56 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Update
Things are starting to move up a notch now as we are entering the warehouse in the morning to do some demolition work on the existing fit-out. I'll post some photos over the next few days as we bring the inside of the warehouse back to it's original bare concrete shell. Homatherm CL Flex 100 batts ordered... This product is not available in Australia so after some deliberation and looking into local alternatives we decided to order 9 pallets of Homatherm direct from Europe as this seemed like the best way to guarantee a predictable result. There will also be a substantial amount of Rockwool Fibretex 350 going in as well which was sourced locally from Bradfords. Diffusor Wood ordered... Thomas likes to use 'Ayous' for these but this was actually called 'Obeche' in Australia and was extremely hard to find. Another similar alternative is 'Jelutong'. I managed to track down some 'Obeche' in Melbourne & this is currently being laser cut & drum sanded (all 874 blocks!) this week in preparation for the diffusors. Regufoam ordered... Another European product used to float the concrete slab, Thomas has carefully calculated the estimated weight of the studio and the required design of the floating floor. This is also on order and will be with us in around 4 weeks. Once we have this we can begin the slab work.
In the meantime still working through some of the finer structural points with the ceiling joists & mezzanine floor joists but it's very close now. Still much to do before the regufoam arrives such as sorting out the re-location of the toilet plumbing, more quotes and finalising A/C layout, and mezzanine floor final layouts for Studio B etc. and working flat out with servicing mastering clients as well. Over the last couple of weeks over 100 tracks mastered.. crazy times!
More soon... must sleep early start in the morning.
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4th July 2012
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#57 | | Gear addict
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Go, Matt, GO!
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4th July 2012
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#58 | | Gear maniac
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Yeaaaah!!
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4th July 2012
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#59 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | First Day of Demolition
Today was epic, 7am start, ripped into the existing fit-out & found it was a treasure trove for recycling.
We have managed to recycle 2 x solid core doors with fittings, 2 large & expensive 10.5mm thick shatter resistant glass windows (probably sell these), a stack of pink batt insulation (only partly pictured) which can be used for studio B, a couple of split system air-co units (one will service the machine room, the other will service Studio B) but the biggest treasure was finding a 4.2m spanned ceiling with 200x80x3mm C section joists & a 5.78m 200x80x13 steal bearer which we hope can be all raised up & re-bolted to the required mezzanine height. This should help save some decent dollars for the studio B build.
These pics were taken half way through the day... |
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6th July 2012
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#60 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Day 2 demolition |
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