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The colors studio: Drums room building

Hello everyone,
I learned a lot with the diaries I saw here. Now it's time for me to share with you the diary of the works in my studio.

We want to soundproof this room to be able to record drums. The actual dimensions are: L:4,20m x W:2,90m H:2,90m

We will use concrete blocks for the walls and concrete on Rockwool of 10 cm for the floor.

For the moment we are in the first phase: destruction. Here are some pictures.

I know, it is not the most intresting phase but the next will be better.
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I look forward to seeing it appear (but currently your photos arent showing)!
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I look forward to seeing it appear (but currently your photos arent showing)!
Yes i know, but i have find the solution
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Pictures

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Get yourself an account at www.photobucket.com. Easiest way is to upload the photos there and then post the links here. That's how I did it in my thread and it works well.
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Hi,
congratulations for the beginning of the build!
One thing - I see that you have 2,90m height available. If you build a concrete slab on top of 10cm Rockwool, the whole floor height will be around 25cm, counting with 12 cm concrete slab, plus a floor base of two layers of chipboard.
That will take away quite a lot of height. I think you should look for a simpler solution - like 5cm of 140Kg/m3 foam (like Arkobel) and sandwich of chipboard, plasterboard and deadsheet on top of it - this way you can half the floor thickness and still have a good isolation.
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Hi,
congratulations for the beginning of the build!
One thing - I see that you have 2,90m height available. If you build a concrete slab on top of 10cm Rockwool, the whole floor height will be around 25cm, counting with 12 cm concrete slab, plus a floor base of two layers of chipboard.
That will take away quite a lot of height. I think you should look for a simpler solution - like 5cm of 140Kg/m3 foam (like Arkobel) and sandwich of chipboard, plasterboard and deadsheet on top of it - this way you can half the floor thickness and still have a good isolation.
Ok thank's for the advice, i will try to find this product in belgium (Arkobel).Wath did you mean by "deadsheet" is it like roofing?
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The best way of doing it is concrete on the correct density of rockwool!

Get the floor wrong and the ceiling hight wont matter!
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The best way of doing it is concrete on the correct density of rockwool!

Get the floor wrong and the ceiling hight wont matter!
The best way of doing it is probably silomer or something similar but let's not get picky
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The best way of doing it is concrete on the correct density of rockwool!

Get the floor wrong and the ceiling hight wont matter!
Calculation of my studio CR and LR has been just finished and I agree with the concrete on concrete, but I doubt whether you can float a concrete bunker with rockwool. A very specific density type of indeed something like sylomer sounds more like it.

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Floor and ceilling

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Calculation of my studio CR and LR has been just finished and I agree with the concrete on concrete, but I doubt whether you can float a concrete bunker with rockwool. A very specific density type of indeed something like sylomer sounds more like it.

Greetings,
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Yes i m' reflecting about that, i was inspired by studio of Branko in Portugal.


New rooms in Portugal

They used 10 cm of Rockwhool but it's was only for the floating floor.
And there build they envisaged Rockwhool will be crushed of 3 cm.
But in my build i think that will be to mutch weight for Rockwool.
So, i'm thinking to use small square of sylomer like 5cm x 5cm with spaces of 20 cm between each peace and make a big checkerwork and to put formwork on it.

If you have any advise they are welcome.

For the height of the celling and issue with the increases of the floor.
Because we are on the ground, we can dig 20 cm in the ground to compensate, so we will keep the same height than before.
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Map of the studio

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The best advice I can give you is let a professional on acoustics do these calculations for you.
In the end the concept is to build a mass-damper-mass system with a low-enough own frequency (let's say <10Hz) so low-end musical energy is not transfered through the damper. This needs to be calculated precisely, otherwise it will be hit or miss.

Greetings,
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Photo of the build

The area in Red are under construction.

In theses photos you can see the 1 phase: demolition.

We haved first breaked the shower and the shower wall for created the access to the new drum room. After we haved withdraw the two doors who was separated the old drum room and the main record room.


We haved also breaked a old staircase we wil not used in the new build.

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Building the walls

After that, we have building two walls with 10 cm of isover, for separate the new drum room from the main records room. We will integrate three windows of severals thickness 8 mm, 6 mm and 10 mm.

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