New Premises Build Starts - UK

AndyZippy · 26th January 2011

Hey all, so after closing the doors to my old premises back in April/May 2010, i have finally settled on a deal with new premises, in my home county of Somerset, South West England. The old place was in the middle of nowhere, and i was renting it (admittedly very, very cheaply!) from the engineer than ran it whilst putting up with carpeted everything, a low ceiling that went down to just under 6foot at one wall!!

This new one is in a busy town centre, above a decent sized 350 capacity venue that has hosted the likes of Franz Ferdinand, Kate Nash, well the list goes on.

It consists of a "live" room, studio 1 on the plans, one end (top, on plans) of which has a 7-and-a-half foot ceiling (i'll be using this for storage, booths, and close mic'd amps etc) and then the most part will have an off-centre apexed ceiling, going up potentially twice that in it's max height internally.

A wall, complete with a window, sealed door and extra layer not present on the plans, separates this from the control room, which has a large size much like my old place. We'll be building the console and most rack gear (comps & convertors especially) into a single piece of furniture, with a huge sofa along the backwall. I won't get too hung up on gear, and the photos i've taken so far are plain awful! More to come, and if anyone has any ideas or thoughts they think might be useful, feel free to chime in!

FLOOR PLAN:

VIEW INTO "LIVE" ROOM FROM CONTROL ROOM:

VIEW OF TWO DOORS FROM "MIXING DESK SEAT" IN CONTROL ROOM:

VIEW INTO CONTROL ROOM FROM LIVE ROOM:
Room is deeper than the photo lets on!

IDEA OF HEIGHT OF THE APEX'D PART OF LIVE ROOM:
Again, Room is deeper than the photo lets on!

As you can see, the whole out walls are finished and just need the rest of the rockwool inserted, and the inner skin. Doors are being beefed up, big time!

AndyZippy · 26th January 2011

COMPOSITE OF CONTROL ROOM:
(Behind the door is the 45 degree angle part of the wall)

CORNER OF CONTROL ROOM:
(Better shows the room's depth)

chrissyb · 27th January 2011

Hi

Looking good...

Was there much extra consideration needed on account of there being the adjacent live venue, in terms of isolation?

Chris

AndyZippy · 27th January 2011

Hi Chris, yea luckily the builder that has been overseeing the plans has some experience in the field, which is good. Planning the separating wall to consist of what it does on the plans on one side of the girder, and then a cavity where the girder sits, then a second wall on the control room side as well, utilising different materials. The budget isn't exactly huge, hence no CAD drawings or super expensive materials, but so far so good!

Syncamorea · 27th January 2011

The place looks to have great potential! Good luck, and keep those photos coming.

AndyZippy · 27th January 2011

Thanks Syncamorea!
More to come soon

Working on some plans in googlesketch, will put those up as soon as i'm done!

muziekschuur · 27th January 2011

Will you loose all those heights? You will loose some nice roomsound....

AndyZippy · 27th January 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by muziekschuur

Will you loose all those heights? You will loose some nice roomsound....

Have a look in my first two posts buddy.. Control room & far end of live room will be a 7'4 ceiling, and the apex of the live room ceiling will be following the line of the existing outer ceiling, so potentially anything upto to around 14' !

dominic hoenig · 27th January 2011

Can't wait to do a session there Andy !

AndyZippy · 27th January 2011

You and me both matey

AndyZippy · 1st February 2011

So, here's the profile of the new ceiling - The apex is pretty high, the guy there is on a step ladder! Those are the roof joist templates.

AndyZippy · 1st February 2011

Ok, here's looking through to the live room from the control room. Up so far is one side of the two parts of the dividing wall. The other side is going to be mildly angled, making the roof easier and creating even less parallel surfaces, and is isolated from the other part of the wall.

Dave Rose · 1st February 2011

cool location! good luck, looks like a nice space

AndyZippy · 8th February 2011

Thank You Gearslag!
More photos to come soon, currently off accross mainland europe on tour (with Reel Big Fish if anyone's interested!) whilst construction continues!

AndyZippy · 11th March 2011

Ok!! So... Back from tour, and some serious progress has been made!

This is the live room, looking into control room:

This is control room, looking into live room:

And this shows the height of the live room's off-centred apex:

AndyZippy · 11th March 2011

So, we've been upgrading gear heavily too, so for the gear geeks in ya...
First up, gone from FW Motu & ADAT (yes!) to a lovely new SSl Alphalink Madi AX, and a nice new UA LA610, which also came with a free UAD2 Duo card! Thank you UA!

To add to our existing compliment of Marshall 1960A 4x12, Orange PPC 4x12, Marshall 1936 2x12 & Marshall JTM601 1x12 guitar cabs, we picked up a new Marshall 1960BV (Loaded with Celestion V30's). They are, of course, stacked like this for storage purposes....

..and we treated ourselves to a lovely new pair of Focal Twin 6 Be's. Yum!

AndyZippy · 11th March 2011

Sorry, duplicated post!

Syncamorea · 14th March 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyZippy

So, we've been upgrading gear heavily too, so for the gear geeks in ya...
..and we treated ourselves to a lovely new pair of Focal Twin 6 Be's. Yum!

Holy smokes! Nice upgrades.

AndyZippy · 14th March 2011

Thanks

AndyZippy · 16th March 2011

Colour Charts for the rooms!!

AndyZippy · 18th March 2011

We're going top right of the 4 colours!

Ok, so the typical Soundcraft Ghost problem of a dead headphone jack knocking out the monitor section outputs had to be rectified, so we took her apart....

We're actually going to have a few channels modded too.

Then, after replacing the headphone socket, seeing as we NEVER use it, we decided to do a mini-mod of our own, and mount it inside and block the hole, as it'll be hidden in our new 8ft-long console anyway. Keeps the problem item out of reach!

Simple but effective!

AndyZippy · 18th March 2011

Possible alternative to lava lamps! The picture doesn't do it justice, actually nicer in person. All 9 balls change colour.

ANYWAY! More construction and decorating pics this week, progress is catching up now.

AshleySmith06 · 18th March 2011

Can't run a studio without a Lava Lamp, that's for sure

All the best for the new venture.

AndyZippy · 18th March 2011

Hey Ashley, many thanks!
And very true, but this thing drew me in...

AshleySmith06 · 18th March 2011

It looks cool. Grab it!!

Syncamorea · 20th March 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyZippy

All 9 balls change colour.

That's what she said.

AndyZippy · 22nd March 2011

Bit more new gear, a 70's SVT II, that i bought from a tech friend! I borrowed this for a year once, and it got used on a LOT of records.. Lovely to have her back, permanently!

AndyZippy · 22nd March 2011

Leads for wallboxes through and ready for sealing up and soldering.
Consists of 24 XLR in, 4 Combi "out" (for headphone mixes or sending to live room PA) and 4 speaker jack "out" (guitar & bass heads to cabs). About 250 points to solder. a-w-e-s-o-m-e....

Trev@Circle · 22nd March 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyZippy

L About 250 points to solder. a-w-e-s-o-m-e....

I admit it. I'm jealous.

AndyZippy · 23rd March 2011

He

e yea Trev i saw the pic of your wiring fun!! This is a walk in the park in comparison :D
More pics a coming this evening..

26th January 2011	#1
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	New Premises Build Starts - UK Hey all, so after closing the doors to my old premises back in April/May 2010, i have finally settled on a deal with new premises, in my home county of Somerset, South West England. The old place was in the middle of nowhere, and i was renting it (admittedly very, very cheaply!) from the engineer than ran it whilst putting up with carpeted everything, a low ceiling that went down to just under 6foot at one wall!! This new one is in a busy town centre, above a decent sized 350 capacity venue that has hosted the likes of Franz Ferdinand, Kate Nash, well the list goes on. It consists of a "live" room, studio 1 on the plans, one end (top, on plans) of which has a 7-and-a-half foot ceiling (i'll be using this for storage, booths, and close mic'd amps etc) and then the most part will have an off-centre apexed ceiling, going up potentially twice that in it's max height internally. A wall, complete with a window, sealed door and extra layer not present on the plans, separates this from the control room, which has a large size much like my old place. We'll be building the console and most rack gear (comps & convertors especially) into a single piece of furniture, with a huge sofa along the backwall. I won't get too hung up on gear, and the photos i've taken so far are plain awful! More to come, and if anyone has any ideas or thoughts they think might be useful, feel free to chime in! FLOOR PLAN: VIEW INTO "LIVE" ROOM FROM CONTROL ROOM: VIEW OF TWO DOORS FROM "MIXING DESK SEAT" IN CONTROL ROOM: VIEW INTO CONTROL ROOM FROM LIVE ROOM: Room is deeper than the photo lets on! IDEA OF HEIGHT OF THE APEX'D PART OF LIVE ROOM: Again, Room is deeper than the photo lets on! As you can see, the whole out walls are finished and just need the rest of the rockwool inserted, and the inner skin. Doors are being beefed up, big time! __________________ MUSIC BOX MEDIA - UK's Cheapest CD Replication

11th March 2011	#15
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Progress! Ok!! So... Back from tour, and some serious progress has been made! This is the live room, looking into control room: This is control room, looking into live room: And this shows the height of the live room's off-centred apex:

11th March 2011	#16
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Also! So, we've been upgrading gear heavily too, so for the gear geeks in ya... First up, gone from FW Motu & ADAT (yes!) to a lovely new SSl Alphalink Madi AX, and a nice new UA LA610, which also came with a free UAD2 Duo card! Thank you UA! To add to our existing compliment of Marshall 1960A 4x12, Orange PPC 4x12, Marshall 1936 2x12 & Marshall JTM601 1x12 guitar cabs, we picked up a new Marshall 1960BV (Loaded with Celestion V30's). They are, of course, stacked like this for storage purposes.... ..and we treated ourselves to a lovely new pair of Focal Twin 6 Be's. Yum!

11th March 2011	#17
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Also! Sorry, duplicated post! Last edited by AndyZippy; 13th March 2011 at 12:52 PM.. Reason: Duplicate post

18th March 2011	#21
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Colour Choice & Ghost Repair We're going top right of the 4 colours! Ok, so the typical Soundcraft Ghost problem of a dead headphone jack knocking out the monitor section outputs had to be rectified, so we took her apart.... We're actually going to have a few channels modded too. Then, after replacing the headphone socket, seeing as we NEVER use it, we decided to do a mini-mod of our own, and mount it inside and block the hole, as it'll be hidden in our new 8ft-long console anyway. Keeps the problem item out of reach! Simple but effective!

27th January 2011	#3
chrissyb Gear Head Joined: Dec 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 47	Hi Looking good... Was there much extra consideration needed on account of there being the adjacent live venue, in terms of isolation? Chris

27th January 2011	#5
Syncamorea Lives for gear Joined: May 2009 Posts: 1,625 3 Reviews written	The place looks to have great potential! Good luck, and keep those photos coming.

27th January 2011	#6
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Thanks Syncamorea! More to come soon Working on some plans in googlesketch, will put those up as soon as i'm done!

27th January 2011	#7
muziekschuur Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Stavenisse Posts: 1,484 2 Reviews written	Will you loose all those heights? You will loose some nice roomsound....

27th January 2011	#9
dominic hoenig Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2008 Location: brighton, uk Posts: 603	Can't wait to do a session there Andy !

1st February 2011	#11
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	So, here's the profile of the new ceiling - The apex is pretty high, the guy there is on a step ladder! Those are the roof joist templates.

1st February 2011	#13
Dave Rose Gear addict Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 421	cool location! good luck, looks like a nice space

8th February 2011	#14
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Thank You Gearslag! More photos to come soon, currently off accross mainland europe on tour (with Reel Big Fish if anyone's interested!) whilst construction continues!

14th March 2011	#19
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Thanks

16th March 2011	#20
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Colour Charts for the rooms!!

18th March 2011	#23
AshleySmith06 Lives for gear Joined: May 2006 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 662	Can't run a studio without a Lava Lamp, that's for sure All the best for the new venture. __________________ Ashley Smith Sound Engineer, Musician and Producer, and Guitar Tutor Website: Seattle Underground CV: http://www.box.net/shared/fpeobmn4k4 - (latest) Reference: http://www.box.net/shared/l0s2frm11e Affiliates and Endorsers include: - Avid/Digidesign, FXpansion, Platinum Samples, Native Instruments, Overloud, Slate Digital, and many more Multi Platinum ProTools Affiliate

22nd March 2011	#27
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Bit more new gear, a 70's SVT II, that i bought from a tech friend! I borrowed this for a year once, and it got used on a LOT of records.. Lovely to have her back, permanently!

23rd March 2011	#30
AndyZippy Gear addict Joined: Mar 2008 Location: Glastonbury, UK Posts: 307 Thread Starter	Hee yea Trev i saw the pic of your wiring fun!! This is a walk in the park in comparison :D More pics a coming this evening..

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