Steve's new Recording Studio from the start - Page 4

nukmusic · 10th January 2006, 05:33 PM

starting to look nice. "MO' Power" to ya

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...en&q=SSL+4072G

superburtm · 11th January 2006, 03:40 AM

[quote=Snarf]Stevep:

Do you think this is good enough when there is nothing generating any noise from outside?

I would say more than enough. IF your not trying to isolate airborne and structural noise transmissions from attached rooms like other studios in your complex or not driving your nieghbors crazy. Two layers of sheet rock and a layer of sound board on a staggered stud wall is more than fine. If you have a flimsy wall from an acoustic standpoint the wall become a friggin panel absorber and all your bottom end goes away. Which sometimes isn't a bad thing

superburtm · 11th January 2006, 03:41 AM

[quote=stevep]The rear control room wall with all the layers of drywall finished on both sides.

Its starting to get quiet in here….

What kinda console are you puting in there if I may ask? It's looking great BTW!

stevep · 11th January 2006, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Durv please dont flame me for asking this.
I was wonderring how studios wire up things?
wall mount...through wall....then to patchbay?
do you use conduit? what if you have to replace cable due to "issues"? do you tear out the drywall/framing? or are things somewhat "accessable" with panels or something?

Not at all ! Very good question.
The audio wires that penetrate the walls run through 2" PVC conduit and the holes through the walls do not line up and every penetration is sealed up airtight...... So you have a hole say at 4" from the floor and it comes through the other side of the wall at 2' from the floor we don’t use sharp bends with the conduit just in case you have to fish another wire through. But......

You should always run extra pairs where ever you make the runs and leave extra length....

In the control room all the audio wires run in channels all covered up so they are not visible but there is easy access should we need to add more or change something.

Again run extra pairs....

As far as panels go in the live room and iso booths.... its easy to make your own Mic input panels also have a few line ins and maybe a few outputs.
My last studio had 48 Mic ins in the live room , This time I will only run 24 or maybe 32.

From the panels we run the wire to punchdown blocks and then to the patchbay.

From the outboard and multitrack the same,,, punchdown blocks then to the patchbay.

You can go directly to the patchbays but i like the punchdowns ... its easier to add more gear!! And troubleshoot.

This may have been more than you wanted to know......
But a well wired up studio will run without problems for many years

steve

djui5 · 11th January 2006, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superburtm

What kinda console are you puting in there if I may ask? It's looking great BTW!

I believe he said SSL in a previous post.

Steve,
It's looking great! Lovin the updates :)

stevep · 11th January 2006, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Snarf I Myself didn`t do a whole lot of sound proofing. I live on a farm, at least 10 minutes from the nearest highway, and my animals are never enar the studio.

You are in a great place,,

It sounds like you did a fine job

2 leafs are always better though

The sound proofing has taken so much time and i am still not done......

One more wall in the back then the front control room wall then i can start on treatment.

the anmials are just outside........... and hungry

stevep · 11th January 2006, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by superburtm
What kinda console are you puting in there if I may ask? It's looking great BTW!

I believe he said SSL in a previous post.

This has been a real hard decision for me............

I was / am Leaning towards a SSL 40xx G But.......

may have to wait for 2 years to see if i can justify going into debt for 100.000$

i have had a real hard time getting financed and with no real work lined up it may be a bad decision to go into debt that much right now.

I might get this console and use it until i can get a SSL

AMEK APC 1000 80 channels with GML moving faders and recall on all switching

I really have my heart set on the SSL but i may have to wait.......

djui5 · 11th January 2006, 05:09 AM

The Amek would be the smart business move, since you have no clients lined up.

Mother of pearl.

Amek's don't suck though :) so you'll be fine. You'll have to find work because of you though, not cuz you "own an SSL".....

It put's hair on your chest.

**James 'LA' Lugo** · 11th January 2006, 05:14 AM

Steve,

Man, you go for it. That console looks nice. Good luck brother.

James

stevep · 11th January 2006, 05:31 AM

Quote:

James 'LA' Lugo Steve,

Man, you go for it. That console looks nice. Good luck brother.

cool

Quote:

djui5 The Amek would be the smart business move, since you have no clients lined up.

I have some work lined up .. but enough for Huge payment????

Quote:

djui5
Amek's don't suck though :) so you'll be fine. You'll have to find work because of you though, not cuz you "own an SSL".....

Yea It is nice to hear this ....
This is the truth !

As long as i have a good desk that will do what i need it to do i will be happy

Thanks Guys !

stevep · 11th January 2006, 05:40 AM

Quote:

djui5 Mother of pearl.

???????

not sure....... dont get it......

my brain is fried

.

djui5 · 11th January 2006, 07:27 AM

Never mind that one :)

mojava · 15th January 2006, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevep

This has been a real hard decision for me............

I was / am Leaning towards a SSL 40xx G But.......

may have to wait for 2 years to see if i can justify going into debt for 100.000$

i have had a real hard time getting financed and with no real work lined up it may be a bad decision to go into debt that much right now.

I might get this console and use it until i can get a SSL

AMEK APC 1000 80 channels with GML moving faders and recall on all switching

I really have my heart set on the SSL but i may have to wait.......

Hi Steve:

I PMd you earlier and I am so curious as to the price of operating a big analog console...I am most concerned with Airconditioning/electric bill. I hear that you should never turn consoles off.....your thoughts.

Blessings!

Moses

Durv · 15th January 2006, 02:16 AM

Steve, THANK YOU SO MUCH for the in depth reply to my question.
Man!! AMEK or SSL, you are gonna make some damn good music soon! please keep us all posted...the gearslut family will want to know!!
peace!
Durv

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:34 PM

So busy working on this room ........

its been a tough week as financing and money is running out

also i am finding it hard to get anything done without struggling ...and breaking things......

time is running out and i am spending and not making $$$$
Over three months of 10 hour days have worn me out !

But i have got some work done

Rear roll-up door and wall are finished !

Starting to drywall front control room wall and frame out soffit

steve

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:36 PM

This is where the Huge Roll up door was.....

Filled with 6" of drywall

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:39 PM

This wall is set 12 " from the filled door opening..

and the sound lock .. this door is where the bands can haul in there equipment

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:40 PM

the finished first layer of drywall .... 3 layers total...

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:46 PM

The front Control room wall and window

This wall is framed with 12" air space and will be filled with insulation and get 3 layers of drywall on the inside and 2 layers on the studio side

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:47 PM

front crontrol room wall with the soffit layout

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:48 PM

sound lock layout

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:51 PM

That’s all for now.......

I am now working on the drywall for the control room wall
and hope to finish it today

steve

stevep · 19th January 2006, 05:53 PM

I am thinking of turning this into a non profit organization

SeventhCircle · 19th January 2006, 08:45 PM

I've been looking for new space recently, but just thinking about all the work involved makes me tired. Do you have a guess at how much it would have cost in labor to hire someone to do all the framing and sheetrock? Also, I've been reading a lot about QuietRock soundproof drywall. Anyone have any experience with it in studio construction?

mojava · 19th January 2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevep

I am thinking of turning this into a non profit organization

Just know that someone higher is in charge!! Take comfort that he is watching over you! Stay the course!!

Sincerely,

Mojava

stevep · 20th January 2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Just know that someone higher is in charge!! Take comfort that he is watching over you! Stay the course!!

Sincerely,

Mojava

You are right , Thank you

steve

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stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	So busy working on this room ........ its been a tough week as financing and money is running out also i am finding it hard to get anything done without struggling ...and breaking things...... time is running out and i am spending and not making $$$$ Over three months of 10 hour days have worn me out ! But i have got some work done Rear roll-up door and wall are finished ! Starting to drywall front control room wall and frame out soffit steve __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

11th January 2006, 03:40 AM	#92
superburtm Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,382	[quote=Snarf]Stevep: Do you think this is good enough when there is nothing generating any noise from outside? I would say more than enough. IF your not trying to isolate airborne and structural noise transmissions from attached rooms like other studios in your complex or not driving your nieghbors crazy. Two layers of sheet rock and a layer of sound board on a staggered stud wall is more than fine. If you have a flimsy wall from an acoustic standpoint the wall become a friggin panel absorber and all your bottom end goes away. Which sometimes isn't a bad thing

11th January 2006, 03:41 AM	#93
superburtm Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,382	[quote=stevep]The rear control room wall with all the layers of drywall finished on both sides. Its starting to get quiet in here…. What kinda console are you puting in there if I may ask? It's looking great BTW!

15th January 2006, 02:16 AM	#104
Durv Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 402	Steve, THANK YOU SO MUCH for the in depth reply to my question. Man!! AMEK or SSL, you are gonna make some damn good music soon! please keep us all posted...the gearslut family will want to know!! peace! Durv

19th January 2006, 05:36 PM	#106
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	This is where the Huge Roll up door was..... Filled with 6" of drywall Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:39 PM	#107
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	This wall is set 12 " from the filled door opening.. and the sound lock .. this door is where the bands can haul in there equipment Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:40 PM	#108
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	the finished first layer of drywall .... 3 layers total... Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:46 PM	#109
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	The front Control room wall and window This wall is framed with 12" air space and will be filled with insulation and get 3 layers of drywall on the inside and 2 layers on the studio side Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:47 PM	#110
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	front crontrol room wall with the soffit layout Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:48 PM	#111
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	sound lock layout Attached Thumbnails __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:51 PM	#112
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	That’s all for now....... I am now working on the drywall for the control room wall and hope to finish it today steve __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

19th January 2006, 05:53 PM	#113
stevep Lives for Jesus Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: orange county ca. Posts: 2,938	I am thinking of turning this into a non profit organization __________________ Steve Perkins Creation Recording Studios .com Take a Kid Fishing Outreach John 3:16

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SeventhCircle Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 76	I've been looking for new space recently, but just thinking about all the work involved makes me tired. Do you have a guess at how much it would have cost in labor to hire someone to do all the framing and sheetrock? Also, I've been reading a lot about QuietRock soundproof drywall. Anyone have any experience with it in studio construction?