Vocal/iso booth contruction

theshizon · 22nd March 2009, 07:05 AM

heres some pics of the start of a vocal/iso booth in my townhome basement
2x2 floorjoists covered with 5/8 OSB stuffed with Roxul Safe 'n' Sound, PL Acoustiseal along the joists. I'm not %100 sure what im doing but im kinda flying by the seat of my pants with DIY info from here and the net

im gonna prefab the walls tomorrow. any advice is welcome. thanks guys

BinaryFlutter · 23rd March 2009, 07:44 AM

Hey, whats the final size of the booth going to be? looks like you on the right path, are you creating a double walled construction?

Cheers

theshizon · 23rd March 2009, 11:49 PM

no double stud wall, i figured that would be too much overkill for just vocals and small amps. i didnt have enough room too. theres a bar to the right that you can't see and if i made it any bigger you REALLY have to suck it in to walk by.

also alot of research i did shows that its more about whats INSIDE the booth, such as a large bass trap on the wall behind the singer and proper absorbtion on the walls and ceiling. however i will be doing double 5/8 drywall on the outside with green glue, and i think just a single layer on the inside, because of what ive read the double drywall will keep it quieter in the control room but double dry wall inside the booth will cause more reflections (a single layer will allow the sound waves to go through the inside wall easier ) nessecitating in more treatment on the inside "phew"

that was a mouthfull.

this is kinda my "practice" room before i go build my real studio in my dads basement.

btw once its done it will be 5 x 5'6" x 7'4" plenty of room for me, a guitar, and a mic stand or two or a small or large amp, i'm pretty sure i could fit 3 people around for omni vocals if i needed.

craven · 24th March 2009, 02:21 PM

very nice, i build mine almost the same way except i use R-13 from owens corning....

i dont put plyboard on the back, mine are hallow with just insulation/...

wildpark · 24th March 2009, 02:33 PM

2 paravants from ikea coverd with fabric will safe you some living space

theshizon · 25th March 2009, 03:14 AM

i got 3 walls up, just need to go to rona for some more lumber for the wall with the door and window. STARTING TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING!!

i stood inside it with my guitar and ITS HUGE! i was a little worried when i had just the floor done it looked kinda small, lucky me.

Page and Plant are helping me design it, and encouraging me whilst i build!

craven · 25th March 2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshizon

i got 3 walls up, just need to go to rona for some more lumber for the wall with the door and window. STARTING TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING!!

i stood inside it with my guitar and ITS HUGE! i was a little worried when i had just the floor done it looked kinda small, lucky me.

Page and Plant are helping me design it, and encouraging me whilst i build!

what part of canada do you live in?

orange · 25th March 2009, 12:37 PM

?ventilation?

is there any airflow ?

theshizon · 25th March 2009, 10:18 PM

im in edmonton.

for airflow, yes, so far i think so. im gonna get a small wall mount fan and make an intake return system. maybe,... if it doesnt cost to much.
similar to the vocalbooth.com system

theshizon · 26th March 2009, 02:51 AM

got the last wall with the door framed in today

shadyru · 31st March 2009, 06:20 AM

Awesome I think I'm going to copy your setup. Cant wait to see the final product and ur thoughts

theshizon · 14th April 2009, 08:50 PM

so i finally got some $$$ saved for drywall supplies. stuffed the walls with 4" Roxul Safe'N'Sound mineral wool.I ditched the wall plates idea and ran a 2" PVC pipe about a foot long elbowing inside the wall that i could fish cable through and stuff with something.

i also ran a small piece of pipe through the back wall so i had a hole that lined up with an existing plug that i pushed the booth up against with a power bar ran through it, no wiring or lighting needed, i can just plug a lamp and amps into the power bar.

now i just have to prep and hang my door. i went to a used construction supply warehouse and got about a hundred pound solid core door for $25

i just have to cut a hole and install a window, hang it, and then start working on the absorption panels for the inside.

craven · 15th April 2009, 02:10 AM

lookin good, seems a bit small for a vocal booth tho.....

theshizon · 15th April 2009, 08:07 PM

i need it as an amp booth also, and i've heard it both ways, sometimes its "dont bother" with one if its that size but i've had personal experience recording at some studios where i live and at one of them the vocal booth was in a 3' by 5' hallway "airlock" connecting the control room and the live room and the vocals were amazingly clear and in your face and the studio is the top post studio here in town. i checked the vocalbooth.com site and other DIY booth sites and they seem to think a 4x6 room is allright. mines 5 x 5'6" . and thats all the space i had.

craven · 16th April 2009, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshizon

i need it as an amp booth also, and i've heard it both ways, sometimes its "dont bother" with one if its that size but i've had personal experience recording at some studios where i live and at one of them the vocal booth was in a 3' by 5' hallway "airlock" connecting the control room and the live room and the vocals were amazingly clear and in your face and the studio is the top post studio here in town. i checked the vocalbooth.com site and other DIY booth sites and they seem to think a 4x6 room is allright. mines 5 x 5'6" . and thats all the space i had.

i was just wondering because, mine is 8 x 8 x 7 and i though it was a tad small....LOL

good work tho

theshizon · 16th April 2009, 05:15 PM

hey craven, how did you treat the inside of your booth, im not sure whether to make my own absorption panels or buy some premade wedge panels?

RyanC · 16th April 2009, 07:31 PM

That airlock is probably non- parallel though right?

Small parallel walls = lots of modal interaction in 200-500 hz. . . unless you have a good 8 or more inches of 703

craven · 17th April 2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theshizon

hey craven, how did you treat the inside of your booth, im not sure whether to make my own absorption panels or buy some premade wedge panels?

i have 4 panels that are corner traps....they are 6.5' x 14", the have 12 inch thick R-30 in them...

then i have 4 panels on the walls, they are 36" x 14" with the same R-30...

my celing has basic 1 inch foam, with material covering it...

my booth also has 4 inch foam strip on last wall to level out the highs...

craven · 15th February 2010, 08:15 AM

how did this turn out?

22nd March 2009, 07:05 AM	#1
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	Vocal/iso booth contruction heres some pics of the start of a vocal/iso booth in my townhome basement 2x2 floorjoists covered with 5/8 OSB stuffed with Roxul Safe 'n' Sound, PL Acoustiseal along the joists. I'm not %100 sure what im doing but im kinda flying by the seat of my pants with DIY info from here and the net im gonna prefab the walls tomorrow. any advice is welcome. thanks guys

25th March 2009, 10:18 PM	#9
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	im in edmonton. for airflow, yes, so far i think so. im gonna get a small wall mount fan and make an intake return system. maybe,... if it doesnt cost to much. similar to the vocalbooth.com system Last edited by theshizon; 25th March 2009 at 10:22 PM.. Reason: added more

14th April 2009, 08:50 PM	#12
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	finally... so i finally got some $$$ saved for drywall supplies. stuffed the walls with 4" Roxul Safe'N'Sound mineral wool.I ditched the wall plates idea and ran a 2" PVC pipe about a foot long elbowing inside the wall that i could fish cable through and stuff with something. i also ran a small piece of pipe through the back wall so i had a hole that lined up with an existing plug that i pushed the booth up against with a power bar ran through it, no wiring or lighting needed, i can just plug a lamp and amps into the power bar. now i just have to prep and hang my door. i went to a used construction supply warehouse and got about a hundred pound solid core door for $25 i just have to cut a hole and install a window, hang it, and then start working on the absorption panels for the inside.

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23rd March 2009, 07:44 AM	#2
BinaryFlutter Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Hey, whats the final size of the booth going to be? looks like you on the right path, are you creating a double walled construction? Cheers

23rd March 2009, 11:49 PM	#3
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	no double stud wall, i figured that would be too much overkill for just vocals and small amps. i didnt have enough room too. theres a bar to the right that you can't see and if i made it any bigger you REALLY have to suck it in to walk by. also alot of research i did shows that its more about whats INSIDE the booth, such as a large bass trap on the wall behind the singer and proper absorbtion on the walls and ceiling. however i will be doing double 5/8 drywall on the outside with green glue, and i think just a single layer on the inside, because of what ive read the double drywall will keep it quieter in the control room but double dry wall inside the booth will cause more reflections (a single layer will allow the sound waves to go through the inside wall easier ) nessecitating in more treatment on the inside "phew" that was a mouthfull. this is kinda my "practice" room before i go build my real studio in my dads basement. btw once its done it will be 5 x 5'6" x 7'4" plenty of room for me, a guitar, and a mic stand or two or a small or large amp, i'm pretty sure i could fit 3 people around for omni vocals if i needed.

24th March 2009, 02:21 PM	#4
craven Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: At My Studio! Posts: 406	very nice, i build mine almost the same way except i use R-13 from owens corning.... i dont put plyboard on the back, mine are hallow with just insulation/...

24th March 2009, 02:33 PM	#5
wildpark Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GERMANY:FRANKFURT-WIESBADEN Posts: 1,414	2 paravants from ikea coverd with fabric will safe you some living space

25th March 2009, 03:14 AM	#6
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	i got 3 walls up, just need to go to rona for some more lumber for the wall with the door and window. STARTING TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING!! i stood inside it with my guitar and ITS HUGE! i was a little worried when i had just the floor done it looked kinda small, lucky me. Page and Plant are helping me design it, and encouraging me whilst i build!

25th March 2009, 12:37 PM	#8
orange Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,678	?ventilation? is there any airflow ?

26th March 2009, 02:51 AM	#10
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	got the last wall with the door framed in today

31st March 2009, 06:20 AM	#11
shadyru Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 525	Awesome I think I'm going to copy your setup. Cant wait to see the final product and ur thoughts

15th April 2009, 08:07 PM	#14
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	i need it as an amp booth also, and i've heard it both ways, sometimes its "dont bother" with one if its that size but i've had personal experience recording at some studios where i live and at one of them the vocal booth was in a 3' by 5' hallway "airlock" connecting the control room and the live room and the vocals were amazingly clear and in your face and the studio is the top post studio here in town. i checked the vocalbooth.com site and other DIY booth sites and they seem to think a 4x6 room is allright. mines 5 x 5'6" . and thats all the space i had.

16th April 2009, 05:15 PM	#16
theshizon Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 78	hey craven, how did you treat the inside of your booth, im not sure whether to make my own absorption panels or buy some premade wedge panels?

16th April 2009, 07:31 PM	#17
RyanC Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 512	That airlock is probably non- parallel though right? Small parallel walls = lots of modal interaction in 200-500 hz. . . unless you have a good 8 or more inches of 703