Fabric Audio - Studio Construction - Page 3

fabricaudio · 4th March 2009, 09:46 PM

Yes we are going with custom desk, no point spending loads of money for ready ones. It will take time but at the end it will be cheap and efficient.

I went with Euphonix because at the moment is the most compatible and good quality build for its price and i believe it will be efficient for any engineer that may come to work. About the compatibility issues i had a look at the threads before buying it (thanks for mention that) and i waited some months so i could get the new version (i hope!!!) but again i am sure that our supplier will do his best if any problems occur.

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 5th March 2009, 03:50 PM

We started installing the supports for the ceiling panels. More pics of them tomorrow

Nikolas

p.s: the second photo is a bit dark, i think i need to have a word with my brother (tststststs...)

MotifStudios · 5th March 2009, 06:05 PM

Hey, the studio is looking very nice indeed. I'm subscribing to this thread, can't wait to see the end of this! :D

Nice job and your business cards rock. Where are you guys based?

Ajay

fabricaudio · 5th March 2009, 06:41 PM

Hi MotifStudios and thanks for your kind words

We are located in Athens, Greece but myself (Nikolas) and my laptop is located in Southampton, UK

If you like so much our business card i can send you some, just send me a private message with your address

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 6th March 2009, 05:48 PM

Update. More panels supports for the panels and the diffusers
SWEEEEEET!!!

Nikolas

p.s: Thats my dad speaking on the phone, he is the MASTERMIND with his experience on solving problems like material choices and mounting and construction options

fabricaudio · 7th March 2009, 06:41 PM

The ceiling panel supports for the diffusers and the absorbers are done. We installed also the door for the warehouse. There is also a photo of the outside of the studio (3rd floor white windows). Sorry for the garbage bins (at least you cant smell them)

Nikolas

G. E. · 8th March 2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fabricaudio

Update. More panels supports for the panels and the diffusers
SWEEEEEET!!!...

Hi Nikolas, how did you decide where to put the diffusors on the ceiling? Gernot

fabricaudio · 8th March 2009, 02:46 AM

Hi G.E.

We are going to have a total of 18 diffusers on the ceiling. The idea is to make the room sound live so we follow some kind of symmetry. The place for each instrument in the recording is not fixed so we can place them whenever we want and ''record'' the acoustics of the room as well as the instrument, this is a job for the matched paired earthworks Earthworks - M30 - 5hz to 30khz Measurement Microphone that i got for the acoustic measurements. The overall idea is a more uniform sound than just the dry sound of the instrument

Future step is some screen panels (similar with the ones you made, very cool by the way) with adjustable diffusers, absorbers and reflectors for variable acoustics

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 8th March 2009, 10:18 AM

Quick update

The meeting with the gear suppliers went as planned. Now we need to make the list with the gear we need to be ready for a decent recording-tracking, mixing and mastering. If everything goes by the plan (cross fingers) in June-July the control room will be ready

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 9th March 2009, 05:41 PM

We are about to start painting

Some gear also arrived the last week for the live room

fabricaudio · 10th March 2009, 07:06 PM

Work in progress!!!!

We started preparing the wall for painting (thats the kitchen and the lounge by the way)

fabricaudio · 11th March 2009, 05:23 PM

We need to reduce the noise at the lounge from the HVAC unit. So we are going to built a roof with Rockwool like the roof panels at the live room

The metal supports arrived and we need to assembly them to put the rockwool next

Versatile255 · 12th March 2009, 05:34 PM

looking good

fabricaudio · 12th March 2009, 07:37 PM

Thanks Versatile255

and cost effective too

Nikolas

andrebrito · 13th March 2009, 03:56 PM

Try an HVAC silencer if possible, they are a cheap solution.

fabricaudio · 13th March 2009, 06:23 PM

The noise is only at the lounge, so for start a suspended roof with rockwool with cover us for the moment

fabricaudio · 14th March 2009, 02:17 AM

Today the delivery of the rockwool with the beige fiberglass cloth on the front arrived

23 packets and we got it at a very good price (because we went directly to the source)

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 16th March 2009, 12:31 AM

The kitchen is almost ready.

The delivery of the keyboard delayed about 35 years but if finally came

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 16th March 2009, 07:06 PM

The ampeg cabinet arrived today. The ceiling on the lounge is almost done. It think it looks awesome!!!! for diy job

Nikolas

frontierfran · 17th March 2009, 02:18 AM

this place looks so cool, and its only half finished. I can already sense the vibe in the joint...
are you hiring?

I think I could relocate to Greece for this...

fabricaudio · 17th March 2009, 09:25 AM

I am glad you like it frontierfran

Yes the studio is for commercial use.

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 17th March 2009, 07:36 PM

Almost there with the lounge

thenoiseflower · 17th March 2009, 10:17 PM

Your drop ceiling frame looks really sturdy and , for lack of a better term, "industrial" who makes that? I like it.

Great looking space so far

fabricaudio · 17th March 2009, 10:31 PM

Thanks thenoiseflower

I actually had to look in the dictionary for the ''sturdy'' (didnt knew this word)

We just went to a factory that provides metal profile and they bend it for us, it is not rocket science. This is what this factories do and they are happy to do it if you have some meters as an order (not just 2m, they will start laughing)

Then you just hire someone with experience in normal rate and do the installation

Advantages!!!!

1. You can design any shape

2. You dont need to paint it, if it is stainless steel

3. It looks much better than market acoustical products

4. YOU DONT PAY A FORTUNE BUYING MARKET ACOUSTICAL PRODUCTS

Nikolas

thenoiseflower · 17th March 2009, 10:33 PM

Thanks, it really looks much better than all the other drop ceiling frames I've seen.
Good Work!

fabricaudio · 17th March 2009, 10:36 PM

Wait till you see the control and the live room, this was done just to hide the ducts and reduce some noise in the lounge

Thanks for the comments, at first i was thinking i was on my own with these custom and DIY ideas

Nikolas

d1rtynyc · 17th March 2009, 11:16 PM

Nikolas-
It looks great! A ton of work, but it must be great fun seeing it all come together. I bet you are getting more & more excited each day.

I thank you for taking the time & showing us the work progress. Very interesting stuff!

:D

fabricaudio · 17th March 2009, 11:25 PM

I thank you guys for the comments, i think for me it is a good experience and i hope for the rest of you is a feedback that things can be done a lot cheaper that they look.

The same rules will apply when we open in June, music is the real deal here, I not saying i am an activist but i dont think you need a fortune to record an album. The prices the last decades were hilarious i think. Now with new technology competition is making professionals to offer good deals.

Nikolas

fabricaudio · 19th March 2009, 05:18 PM

We started painting the live room (primer coat). We made an access point for the cables (just in case something happens!!!). The custom drumskin arrived yesterday, i think it will be a nice advertisement for the studio,this what the bands will get for free, with their band name written on, when they sign in our label.

Nikolas

Hotstuff · 20th March 2009, 12:59 AM

Great build so far Nikolas.

It´s really fantastic to see a great recording place take shape!

I have had the opportunity to go to Eduardo Apolonia´s studio from the "I started to build a small studio" thread after it was finished and it really is a great recording place.

By the way what are your QRD´s made from? Blue wallmate polystyrene?

4th March 2009, 09:46 PM	#61
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Yes we are going with custom desk, no point spending loads of money for ready ones. It will take time but at the end it will be cheap and efficient. I went with Euphonix because at the moment is the most compatible and good quality build for its price and i believe it will be efficient for any engineer that may come to work. About the compatibility issues i had a look at the threads before buying it (thanks for mention that) and i waited some months so i could get the new version (i hope!!!) but again i am sure that our supplier will do his best if any problems occur. Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

5th March 2009, 03:50 PM	#62
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	We started installing the supports for the ceiling panels. More pics of them tomorrow Nikolas p.s: the second photo is a bit dark, i think i need to have a word with my brother (tststststs...) Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

5th March 2009, 06:05 PM	#63
MotifStudios Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United Kingdowm Posts: 192	Hey, the studio is looking very nice indeed. I'm subscribing to this thread, can't wait to see the end of this! :D Nice job and your business cards rock. Where are you guys based? Ajay __________________ http://www.myspace.com/ajai ajay@corruptmusic.com

5th March 2009, 06:41 PM	#64
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Hi MotifStudios and thanks for your kind words We are located in Athens, Greece but myself (Nikolas) and my laptop is located in Southampton, UK If you like so much our business card i can send you some, just send me a private message with your address Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

6th March 2009, 05:48 PM	#65
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Update. More panels supports for the panels and the diffusers SWEEEEEET!!! Nikolas p.s: Thats my dad speaking on the phone, he is the MASTERMIND with his experience on solving problems like material choices and mounting and construction options Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

7th March 2009, 06:41 PM	#66
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	The ceiling panel supports for the diffusers and the absorbers are done. We installed also the door for the warehouse. There is also a photo of the outside of the studio (3rd floor white windows). Sorry for the garbage bins (at least you cant smell them) Nikolas Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

8th March 2009, 02:46 AM	#68
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Hi G.E. We are going to have a total of 18 diffusers on the ceiling. The idea is to make the room sound live so we follow some kind of symmetry. The place for each instrument in the recording is not fixed so we can place them whenever we want and ''record'' the acoustics of the room as well as the instrument, this is a job for the matched paired earthworks Earthworks - M30 - 5hz to 30khz Measurement Microphone that i got for the acoustic measurements. The overall idea is a more uniform sound than just the dry sound of the instrument Future step is some screen panels (similar with the ones you made, very cool by the way) with adjustable diffusers, absorbers and reflectors for variable acoustics Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

8th March 2009, 10:18 AM	#69
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Quick update The meeting with the gear suppliers went as planned. Now we need to make the list with the gear we need to be ready for a decent recording-tracking, mixing and mastering. If everything goes by the plan (cross fingers) in June-July the control room will be ready Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

9th March 2009, 05:41 PM	#70
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	We are about to start painting Some gear also arrived the last week for the live room Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

10th March 2009, 07:06 PM	#71
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Work in progress!!!! We started preparing the wall for painting (thats the kitchen and the lounge by the way) Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

11th March 2009, 05:23 PM	#72
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	We need to reduce the noise at the lounge from the HVAC unit. So we are going to built a roof with Rockwool like the roof panels at the live room The metal supports arrived and we need to assembly them to put the rockwool next Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

12th March 2009, 05:34 PM	#73
Versatile255 Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 946	looking good

12th March 2009, 07:37 PM	#74
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Thanks Versatile255 and cost effective too Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

13th March 2009, 03:56 PM	#75
andrebrito Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London Posts: 655	Try an HVAC silencer if possible, they are a cheap solution. __________________ Projects: Large Room Acoustics projects,Recording Studio Design, Home Cinema/Studios Assistance Products: RPG and Green Glue in Europe http://www.onlineacoustics.com

13th March 2009, 06:23 PM	#76
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	The noise is only at the lounge, so for start a suspended roof with rockwool with cover us for the moment __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

14th March 2009, 02:17 AM	#77
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Today the delivery of the rockwool with the beige fiberglass cloth on the front arrived 23 packets and we got it at a very good price (because we went directly to the source) Nikolas Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

16th March 2009, 12:31 AM	#78
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	The kitchen is almost ready. The delivery of the keyboard delayed about 35 years but if finally came Nikolas Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

16th March 2009, 07:06 PM	#79
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	The ampeg cabinet arrived today. The ceiling on the lounge is almost done. It think it looks awesome!!!! for diy job Nikolas Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

17th March 2009, 02:18 AM	#80
frontierfran Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 277	this place looks so cool, and its only half finished. I can already sense the vibe in the joint... are you hiring? I think I could relocate to Greece for this... __________________ ____________________ Frontier Sound Solutions Studio and Network Consulting http://www.frontiersound.com

17th March 2009, 09:25 AM	#81
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	I am glad you like it frontierfran Yes the studio is for commercial use. Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

17th March 2009, 07:36 PM	#82
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Almost there with the lounge Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

17th March 2009, 10:17 PM	#83
thenoiseflower Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 1,341	Your drop ceiling frame looks really sturdy and , for lack of a better term, "industrial" who makes that? I like it. Great looking space so far __________________ ---------------------------------------------------- "In an Expression of the Inexpressible..." "I just opened my back door and ran smack dab into a unicorn..." - NOT SO NEW "rules are for intersections" - UBK "in the end it is better to keep the Emperors clothes on. At least this way people's ideals wont get damaged in the process." - thethrillfactor Maudio? is that piglatin for crap? - allencollins "Funny thing about the soapbox" - Slipperman.[/SIZE]

17th March 2009, 10:31 PM	#84
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Thanks thenoiseflower I actually had to look in the dictionary for the ''sturdy'' (didnt knew this word) We just went to a factory that provides metal profile and they bend it for us, it is not rocket science. This is what this factories do and they are happy to do it if you have some meters as an order (not just 2m, they will start laughing) Then you just hire someone with experience in normal rate and do the installation Advantages!!!! 1. You can design any shape 2. You dont need to paint it, if it is stainless steel 3. It looks much better than market acoustical products 4. YOU DONT PAY A FORTUNE BUYING MARKET ACOUSTICAL PRODUCTS Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

17th March 2009, 10:33 PM	#85
thenoiseflower Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 1,341	Thanks, it really looks much better than all the other drop ceiling frames I've seen. Good Work! __________________ ---------------------------------------------------- "In an Expression of the Inexpressible..." "I just opened my back door and ran smack dab into a unicorn..." - NOT SO NEW "rules are for intersections" - UBK "in the end it is better to keep the Emperors clothes on. At least this way people's ideals wont get damaged in the process." - thethrillfactor Maudio? is that piglatin for crap? - allencollins "Funny thing about the soapbox" - Slipperman.[/SIZE]

17th March 2009, 10:36 PM	#86
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	Wait till you see the control and the live room, this was done just to hide the ducts and reduce some noise in the lounge Thanks for the comments, at first i was thinking i was on my own with these custom and DIY ideas Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

17th March 2009, 11:16 PM	#87
d1rtynyc Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: L.E.S. NYC Posts: 1,909	THANKS! Nikolas- It looks great! A ton of work, but it must be great fun seeing it all come together. I bet you are getting more & more excited each day. I thank you for taking the time & showing us the work progress. Very interesting stuff! :D __________________ WTB Cassette Decks cheap Dual with dual stereo outputs -Or- Single Deck unit. If you have one you don't use and can sell at good price. PM me.

17th March 2009, 11:25 PM	#88
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	I thank you guys for the comments, i think for me it is a good experience and i hope for the rest of you is a feedback that things can be done a lot cheaper that they look. The same rules will apply when we open in June, music is the real deal here, I not saying i am an activist but i dont think you need a fortune to record an album. The prices the last decades were hilarious i think. Now with new technology competition is making professionals to offer good deals. Nikolas __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

19th March 2009, 05:18 PM	#89
fabricaudio Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Greece, Athens Posts: 559	We started painting the live room (primer coat). We made an access point for the cables (just in case something happens!!!). The custom drumskin arrived yesterday, i think it will be a nice advertisement for the studio,this what the bands will get for free, with their band name written on, when they sign in our label. Nikolas Attached Thumbnails __________________ Sound Recording-Audio Post facilities-Record Label www.fabricaudio.com

20th March 2009, 12:59 AM	#90
Hotstuff Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 159	Great build so far Nikolas. It´s really fantastic to see a great recording place take shape! I have had the opportunity to go to Eduardo Apolonia´s studio from the "I started to build a small studio" thread after it was finished and it really is a great recording place. By the way what are your QRD´s made from? Blue wallmate polystyrene?

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