Manifold Recording - Studio Construction Thread - Page 2

EduardoApolonia · 12th February 2008, 11:37 AM

This is what I call a studio construction from the START!!!!!

**Jules** · 17th February 2008, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clueless

This is a great thread.

But for a second I thought you had started building a very badly designed and built holiday resort complex.. until I realized I misunderstood the scale of the photo.... a lot..

I was like.. dude, where is the beach?

Clueless · 19th February 2008, 04:15 PM

*Phew*

I just finished 22 pages @ 36" by 24" of shop diagrams for the masons, plus a schedule listing every block in every wall, by size, type, material, etc. Talk about a detail-oriented project!

Here are images of the shop diagrams for the western wall of the Music Room, inside and outside:

By my count there will be approximately 15,000 blocks at screed or above, plus another 1,000 below. If stacked end to end, they would stretch for four miles. For more info, you can read my latest blog posting.

Clueless · 25th February 2008, 04:03 AM

Here are two of the photos now posted to the blog:

The masons are off to a good start--good people, good plans, good tools, and a great design. The complexity of the masonry plan was the contractor's greatest fear, but it seems that so far, although it is quite complex, we have a good handle on it.

My focus will be shifting from cement to wiring as we prepare for the pouring of the slab. Our basic wiring panel will have 64 discrete jacks (XLR, BNC, RJ-45, etc), and with 10 panels, that's 640 wires just flowing from the panels to the patchbays! Figure another 640 wires from the patchbays to the equipment, plus a few hundred wires here or there for connections not expressed in the patchbays and I figure we've got a wiring plan that will have more than 1500 wires! But that's a post for another week...

Farout · 25th February 2008, 12:38 PM

Heck - you're a more patient person than I am!

I would've already started putting a console desk together, and placing it where it will goes in the new building!

Clueless · 1st March 2008, 11:38 AM

I posted some new photos to my blog, plus I added a draft wiring conduit plan that shows where we're planning to run $21K worth of cables (just raw wire):

Enjoy!

Clueless · 18th March 2008, 09:43 AM

Updated my blog with photos showing the strings and nails we put into the ground to guide the plumbers as they lay the PVC pipes.

More photos on the blog.

Farout · 18th March 2008, 12:47 PM

Kewl beans!

Clueless · 30th March 2008, 06:22 PM

I posted two new weekly updates with detailed photos. Here's a shot showing half the conduits that will ultimately be going into the audio machine room:

Yo!

Farout · 30th March 2008, 07:51 PM

What is the diameter of the conduit?

Thanks for the update!

Clueless · 30th March 2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farout

What is the diameter of the conduit?

4" PVC.

Farout · 30th March 2008, 09:24 PM

... and whoever said size doesn't count?

Sounds.is · 31st March 2008, 10:45 AM

Looking great Michael! I can´t believe I missed this thread up to this point, going right on my subscription list now :)

Clueless · 12th April 2008, 01:58 AM

Rain has slowed the construction crew, and the complexity of the wiring plan didn't help, either. We had to do a lot of engineering around the footings that I had not anticipated (because I didn't put the footing outlines into my wiring diagrams before I started drawing conduits). Nevertheless, our talented craftspeople have worked around the problems, and we're just about done with the technical conduits. Here's a picture of a few of the many fat pipes coming into the audio equipment room:

Many more photos on the blog...

avare · 12th April 2008, 02:46 AM

I'm keeping my comments to Gearslutz to avoid confusion.

Fantastic build and thanks for sharing the experience with us here and on your blog.

Andre

dylansmale · 12th April 2008, 09:07 AM

this is going to be sick as shit (kewl) please give us more

Tetris · 15th April 2008, 08:55 PM

What a setting!!!

How much land is it on?

Are you installing PV panels for your energy needs? (Sorry if that has been posted elsewhere and I missed it)

Clueless · 15th April 2008, 09:28 PM

The studio is situated on nearly 17 acres of land. And yes, since we are looking to build a carbon-neutral recording studio, we are looking hard at PVs. That will probably be something we buy quite late in the process, as progress in that domain is pretty fast right now.

Glad you like the environment!

Tetris · 17th April 2008, 05:55 PM

17 Acres....WOW!!!!!! Forget solar panels, build a solar furnace and supply the whole States electricity

What a great, inspirational setting to record in. Are there going to be any residential buildings/log cabins for bands to stay over in?

Clueless · 17th April 2008, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetris

17 Acres....WOW!!!!!! Forget solar panels, build a solar furnace and supply the whole States electricity

What a great, inspirational setting to record in. Are there going to be any residential buildings/log cabins for bands to stay over in?

Already there:

Quote:

Up the hill lies the Windsong Bed, Breakfast, and Retreat Center. Windsong features a beautiful Meadow Room (34'x36' floating plywood floor, 1,224 sq ft, 50 people max capacity), a rustic Sun Room with an adjoining and equally large and rustic sun deck (16'x48' total, ~700 sq ft usable), a kitchen, three additional "living rooms", and three upstairs bedrooms, the largest of which is configured to sleep 6 in bunk beds (or 8 in a pinch). Windsong can be booked through the studio to provide additional facilities for workshops, catering, client accomodations, or it can provide additional services and amenities to further enhance the studio experience: Yoga classes, meditation rooms, holistic health therapy, etc.

Excerpted from the studio page...Here's a photo from the blog that shows the house in the background:

Clueless · 18th April 2008, 03:27 PM

I'm happy to report that construction in the virtual world is also progressing. The old website was definitely Plain Vanilla. The new one is Crème brûlée.

5thString · 18th April 2008, 03:44 PM

Your new website is... delicious!

Very clean, a real pleasure to surf on!

Clueless · 19th April 2008, 10:19 PM

Half the gravel that's been sitting at the construction site has now been conveyed to the foundation. This means that ground level is now minus 8" instead of minus 2'.

Lots more photos on the blog.

Clueless · 4th May 2008, 11:03 AM

I posted a new series of construction photos to my blog showing the latest progress: electrical conduits:

Will we pour the slab by the end of the month? Stay tuned!

TroyTempest · 4th May 2008, 10:28 PM

This project is amazing, but if I was you I would have built it in this pre existing structure. ^_^

Seriously though, never tear that thing down. I like shacks like that, ultimate history. I hate when they tear them down around here.

Clueless · 5th May 2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroyTempest

This project is amazing, but if I was you I would have built it in this pre existing structure. ^_^

Seriously though, never tear that thing down. I like shacks like that, ultimate history. I hate when they tear them down around here.

We have no plans to tear it down. On the other hand, we have no plans to keep it standing, either. If all goes according to plan, it will collapse under its own weight some time next spring.
Then we will remove/recycle the materials and enjoy our beautiful site.

TroyTempest · 5th May 2008, 04:24 AM

Thats all I can ask for.

Great place your making! You might have said but do you plan on filling the block? If so sand or concrete?

I built my studio about the same way but much smaller the exterior wall I willed with concrete and had rebar into the slab like you, and the inside wall we vibra packed sand into them. no complaints as of yet.

My main reasoning was I live on the gulf coast in a high hurricane traffic area.

keep up the good work and pics!!

Clueless · 11th May 2008, 07:04 PM

...and the clean power conduits are now all out of the ground. More info on the blog.

Farout · 13th May 2008, 01:18 AM

Good lawd!!!!

PDC · 23rd May 2008, 02:04 AM

Did you hire an acoustician or a consultant? The layout makes me nervous for you.

12th February 2008, 11:37 AM	#31
EduardoApolonia Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Almancil, Portugal Posts: 258	This is what I call a studio construction from the START!!!!! __________________ http://www.myspace.com/eduardoapolonia

19th February 2008, 04:15 PM	#33
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Shop diagrams completed Phew I just finished 22 pages @ 36" by 24" of shop diagrams for the masons, plus a schedule listing every block in every wall, by size, type, material, etc. Talk about a detail-oriented project! Here are images of the shop diagrams for the western wall of the Music Room, inside and outside: By my count there will be approximately 15,000 blocks at screed or above, plus another 1,000 below. If stacked end to end, they would stretch for four miles. For more info, you can read my latest blog posting. __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

25th February 2008, 04:03 AM	#34
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Week 7 photos up on blog... Here are two of the photos now posted to the blog: The masons are off to a good start--good people, good plans, good tools, and a great design. The complexity of the masonry plan was the contractor's greatest fear, but it seems that so far, although it is quite complex, we have a good handle on it. My focus will be shifting from cement to wiring as we prepare for the pouring of the slab. Our basic wiring panel will have 64 discrete jacks (XLR, BNC, RJ-45, etc), and with 10 panels, that's 640 wires just flowing from the panels to the patchbays! Figure another 640 wires from the patchbays to the equipment, plus a few hundred wires here or there for connections not expressed in the patchbays and I figure we've got a wiring plan that will have more than 1500 wires! But that's a post for another week... __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread Last edited by Clueless; 25th February 2008 at 01:05 PM. Reason: fixed typo

1st March 2008, 11:38 AM	#36
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	New photos plus a wiring diagram I posted some new photos to my blog, plus I added a draft wiring conduit plan that shows where we're planning to run $21K worth of cables (just raw wire): Enjoy! __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

18th March 2008, 09:43 AM	#37
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Wiring plan nailed Updated my blog with photos showing the strings and nails we put into the ground to guide the plumbers as they lay the PVC pipes. More photos on the blog. __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

25th February 2008, 12:38 PM	#35
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 253	Heck - you're a more patient person than I am! I would've already started putting a console desk together, and placing it where it will goes in the new building!

18th March 2008, 12:47 PM	#38
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 253	Kewl beans!

30th March 2008, 06:22 PM	#39
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	More photos...conduits about half way done I posted two new weekly updates with detailed photos. Here's a shot showing half the conduits that will ultimately be going into the audio machine room: Yo! __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

30th March 2008, 07:51 PM	#40
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 253	What is the diameter of the conduit? Thanks for the update!

30th March 2008, 09:24 PM	#42
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 253	... and whoever said size doesn't count?

31st March 2008, 10:45 AM	#43
Sounds.is Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Iceland Posts: 62	Looking great Michael! I can´t believe I missed this thread up to this point, going right on my subscription list now :)

12th April 2008, 01:58 AM	#44
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Rain delays and complexity Rain has slowed the construction crew, and the complexity of the wiring plan didn't help, either. We had to do a lot of engineering around the footings that I had not anticipated (because I didn't put the footing outlines into my wiring diagrams before I started drawing conduits). Nevertheless, our talented craftspeople have worked around the problems, and we're just about done with the technical conduits. Here's a picture of a few of the many fat pipes coming into the audio equipment room: Many more photos on the blog... __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

12th April 2008, 02:46 AM	#45
avare Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Hamilton, On Canada Posts: 535	I'm keeping my comments to Gearslutz to avoid confusion. Fantastic build and thanks for sharing the experience with us here and on your blog. Andre

12th April 2008, 09:07 AM	#46
dylansmale Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,248	this is going to be sick as shit (kewl) please give us more __________________ BAND PAGE: www.myspace.com/capsul3cid

15th April 2008, 08:55 PM	#47
Tetris Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 2	What a setting!!! How much land is it on? Are you installing PV panels for your energy needs? (Sorry if that has been posted elsewhere and I missed it) __________________ www.carbon-studios.com

15th April 2008, 09:28 PM	#48
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Studio on 17 acres The studio is situated on nearly 17 acres of land. And yes, since we are looking to build a carbon-neutral recording studio, we are looking hard at PVs. That will probably be something we buy quite late in the process, as progress in that domain is pretty fast right now. Glad you like the environment! __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

17th April 2008, 05:55 PM	#49
Tetris Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 2	17 Acres....WOW!!!!!! Forget solar panels, build a solar furnace and supply the whole States electricity What a great, inspirational setting to record in. Are there going to be any residential buildings/log cabins for bands to stay over in? __________________ www.carbon-studios.com

18th April 2008, 03:27 PM	#51
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Website Construction Progress I'm happy to report that construction in the virtual world is also progressing. The old website was definitely Plain Vanilla. The new one is Crème brûlée. __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

18th April 2008, 03:44 PM	#52
5thString Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 83	Your new website is... delicious! Very clean, a real pleasure to surf on! __________________ Less-than-stellar voice, limited musical skills in nothing-close-to-a-recording-room + Shure sm57, sm81 or M-Audio Sputnik + Modded PreSonus MP20 + M-Audio FireWire Solo + iMac 20" 2.4GHz 3Mb RAM + Apple's Garageband

19th April 2008, 10:19 PM	#53
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Gravel is in (partially) Half the gravel that's been sitting at the construction site has now been conveyed to the foundation. This means that ground level is now minus 8" instead of minus 2'. Lots more photos on the blog. __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

4th May 2008, 11:03 AM	#54
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Electrical conduits mostly in I posted a new series of construction photos to my blog showing the latest progress: electrical conduits: Will we pour the slab by the end of the month? Stay tuned! __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

4th May 2008, 10:28 PM	#55
TroyTempest Gear maniac Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 210	This project is amazing, but if I was you I would have built it in this pre existing structure. ^_^ Seriously though, never tear that thing down. I like shacks like that, ultimate history. I hate when they tear them down around here. __________________ I'm not here to tell you what you did right. Because if I'm here you did everything wrong. ------------------------------------------------------ The best vocal chain in the industry is... Depends>Depends>Depends>Depends>Optional>Tape

5th May 2008, 04:24 AM	#57
TroyTempest Gear maniac Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 210	Thats all I can ask for. Great place your making! You might have said but do you plan on filling the block? If so sand or concrete? I built my studio about the same way but much smaller the exterior wall I willed with concrete and had rebar into the slab like you, and the inside wall we vibra packed sand into them. no complaints as of yet. My main reasoning was I live on the gulf coast in a high hurricane traffic area. keep up the good work and pics!! __________________ I'm not here to tell you what you did right. Because if I'm here you did everything wrong. ------------------------------------------------------ The best vocal chain in the industry is... Depends>Depends>Depends>Depends>Optional>Tape

11th May 2008, 07:04 PM	#58
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 438	Just crossed the $200K spending mark... ...and the clean power conduits are now all out of the ground. More info on the blog. __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

13th May 2008, 01:18 AM	#59
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 253	Good lawd!!!!

23rd May 2008, 02:04 AM	#60
PDC Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 457	Did you hire an acoustician or a consultant? The layout makes me nervous for you. __________________ I miss LP smell, art, lyrics and cool record stores!

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