condenser mic xlr to 1/4 jack question
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condenser mic xlr to 1/4 jack question

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I am in the process of starting my first home studio set up. I have a zoom B3 effects pedal thats is also a usb interface. My question is this:

I have got a Studio Projects B1 mic and i would like to use this to record some acoustic guitar and vocals. My inyerface does have phantom power and also can be plugged into a main socket but it does not have an xlr input. It has jack input, jack line input, xlr output for DI and jack outputs.

I was wondering if it would be possible for me to use an xlr to jack cable to record though the intetface into the DAW (ableton 8).

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It would have to use an xlr to trs jack which has the 3 sections to rather than 2 like a guitar lead has, as phantom power needs a balanced cable. Are you sure it has phantom power? All I can see is that the input is switchable between passive and active, which isn't the same as phantom power. You might be able to use a dynamic mic depending on the gain the interface/pedal has.
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Hi,

Its a zoom b3. Its a bass effects pedal but also an interface. It seems pretty good as an interface to be fair. The latency is 5ms and it records bass synth ok and is fine with my usb controler using vst plugins. Jyst missing an xlr in put lol.

Hopefully and xlr to trs may solve it! I have not recieved the mic yet but thought i would ask the question first as i know its a xlr condenser.

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Yup xlr to TRS 1/4 inch jack lead will solve this!
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Um, TRS inputs don't supply +48v phantom power.

That interface is for Bass only! There is no dedicated mic input for the condenser!

Get another interface that has mic inputs for the mic and use the bass multi FX as the output that goes in to the other interface.

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Great. Thanks for the replies guys.
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Hi,

What do you mean by the interface is only for bass?
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There is no mic input for your condenser. Even if you plug it in there, it won't work either way, because it won't supply +48v phantom power through the phone jack input.

You need an interface that has mic inputs, that's the only way for the mic to work to be able to record.

Here's an example: Steinberg UR22
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Ah ok. Im pretty new to it all to be honest.

This may be a stupid question but what are the xlr to trs adapters/leads used for if not for this purpose?

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You could use them for your monitors from the interface if it's Male XLR to Male TRS.
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I use a trs to xlr adapter for connecting an outboard compressor to a trs patchbay. The output of the compressor is xlr only, and the patch bay is trs only.

An adapter like this is for exactly what it looks like it is for, but you were wrong in assuming that a trs input would ever supply phantom power. That's something that as far as I know is always avoided to prevent damaging other equipment.

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Ah right. That makes sense. Thanks for the info guys. Also the B1 mic says it runs on between 4-48 volts. Would that make it easier to get a low cost interface? I know i should buy better gear but i have very limited funds and just want something to get me started for the first 6 months or so.

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Forget that last message. Think i may have mis read it. I think its just 48v
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Would it be a better option to get a preamp rather than a new interface?
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Would it be a better option to get a preamp rather than a new interface?
Not if you want to record to a DAW. You could add a mic pre ahead of the line input you now have, but a full interface will ultimately be a better solution. An even half-way decent mic pre will cost you more than a full 2-in/2-out interface with built-in mic pres.

If you want to record to a DAW you need an interface. To use your Studio Projects mic, that interface should have a built-in mic pre with +48 volt phantom power available its XLR input.

There are many, many manufacturers of such interfaces including Steinburg, Focusrite, Mackie, MOTU, Tascam, Apogee, etc. etc.
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Would it be a better option to get a preamp rather than a new interface?
Um, how are you gonna record to your DAW then?
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I think for an absolute beginner, the Akai EIE is perfect. You can grow into it and get a lot of use out of it. I recently sold mine to help pay for the new Focusrite 18i20, but I still miss it every day:(

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Rancho- i was looking at that exact one last night. Also seen a PreSonus Audiobox 22vsl going cheap on ebay. Are they any good? Seen a few reviews that said they are ok. I will only need 2 inputs.

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I would still go with the EIE. It's totally stand alone too, so you can play though it without starting up your computer. I don't know of an interface that cheap that can do that. Also, the USB hub is probably the dumbest brilliant thing I've ever seen on an interface.

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