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saturation works like an EQ?

I'm wondering if there is a saturation VST out there that has a layout just like an EQ. I would like to be able manipulate frequency saturation just like an EQ. Anything out there like that?
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fabfilter saturn is what you're looking for.
it splits the signal into frequency ranges and you can drive them differently.
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not bad thanks. I'll have to try it when I get home.

any others?
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Sounds like you're looking for a multiband distortion or something similar
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it is not laid out like you describe, but I use Decapitator all the time in place of an EQ. It's different than using an EQ, but accomplishes the same things.
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Why not just place an EQ plug in you like in front of a saturation plug in? Only work with additive eq, and set it so that when the EQ is bypassed its not saturating much.

You'd probably want to blend this in parallel with your original signal.

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Why not just place an EQ plug in you like in front of a saturation plug in? Only work with additive eq, and set it so that when the EQ is bypassed its not saturating much.

You'd probably want to blend this in parallel with your original signal.

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Or definitely go the parallel route (bad pun) and filter out whatever you don't want saturated. I did this the other day, medium sized band-pass through a compressor into that free saturation knob plug lolol. Worked surprising well
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Why not just place an EQ plug in you like in front of a saturation plug in? Only work with additive eq, and set it so that when the EQ is bypassed its not saturating much.

You'd probably want to blend this in parallel with your original signal.

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hmm...I'm not quite sure what you mean. Is there a chain effect in Reaper (that's the DAW i'm using). Even if I put a saturator on the track it is still going to saturate the frequencies I don't want regardless of the EQ...
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Check out Focusing Equalizer by Softube.
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Check out Focusing Equalizer by Softube.
that looked promising, but I don't think the saturation boosts is applied to individual bands as far as I can tell. It looks like it affects all frequencies.
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Not sure about reaper, but most DAW's will let you use a send to a bus and you could eq and saturate on the bus in parallel or instead of the original signal.
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that looked promising, but I don't think the saturation boosts is applied to individual bands as far as I can tell. It looks like it affects all frequencies.
Well it affects the frequency band you set up previously. Also, you have a basic option to saturate the whole range you have selected, or only the lows, or only the highs. Other than that, the FabFilter Saturn is hard to beat I guess.
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Not sure about reaper, but most DAW's will let you use a send to a bus and you could eq and saturate on the bus in parallel or instead of the original signal.
Yes. Already mentioned if you didn't see..... Similarly, if you reeeeally want to straight up saturate a range of frequencies, just split it up into bands with 3 busses with filters. It'll take some doing, but yknow....
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hmm...I'm not quite sure what you mean. Is there a chain effect in Reaper (that's the DAW i'm using). Even if I put a saturator on the track it is still going to saturate the frequencies I don't want regardless of the EQ...
Don't really know anything about reaper. In cubase the effects stack one after the other as inserts on channels.

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Don't really know anything about reaper. In cubase the effects stack one after the other as inserts on channels.

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In Reaper, too.
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So if you are running two copies of the signal on two channels, and you eq first then saturate the one, wouldn't this be what the OP wanted? As you boost a band on the eq before the saturation it will naturally saturate that region more. So the EQ controls will drive the saturation assuming you set the threshold of the saturation right. That should do what he wants I figure.

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So if you are running two copies of the signal on two channels, and you eq first then saturate the one, wouldn't this be what the OP wanted? As you boost a band on the eq before the saturation it will naturally saturate that region more. So the EQ controls will drive the saturation assuming you set the threshold of the saturation right. That should do what he wants I figure.

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Exactly. And then multiple sends could give him even more control over the whole thing, like how Scott003 suggested.
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So if you are running two copies of the signal on two channels, and you eq first then saturate the one, wouldn't this be what the OP wanted? As you boost a band on the eq before the saturation it will naturally saturate that region more.

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this is where we disagree. From my understanding, the saturation would be applied evenly to all frequencies, the frequences boosted by the EQ would only increase gain of those frequencies, not saturated effects.

I could be wrong though.
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this is where we disagree. From my understanding, the saturation would be applied evenly to all frequencies, the frequences boosted by the EQ would only increase gain of those frequencies, not saturated effects.

I could be wrong though.
If what you are saying would be true, electric guitar sounds would never be able to clean up when you roll of their volume knob. Amplifiers as well. These kind of distortions all have a threshold above where they start happening and then they increase dynamically, depending on the input level of the signal.
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this is where we disagree. From my understanding, the saturation would be applied evenly to all frequencies, the frequences boosted by the EQ would only increase gain of those frequencies, not saturated effects.

I could be wrong though.
+1 If you want to saturate a certain band, band pass it
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Yea throw it on a bus and send it to your track that way you can blend in how you want and do it to multiple sources. Add the saturation then throw a eq on there and filter out the frequencies you dont want effected and then what's great is you can also mess with a little reverb or some chorus too it and really give it a nice smooth effect. Can do all kinds of thing. Could also even boost a certain frequency a lil more all up to u.
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I think I figured out how to do it by putting it on a bus. thanks guys!
also, that fabfilter saturn is pretty damn good.
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