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Old 9th March 2013   #1
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Mid side technique and drums...

So, I have heard that the mid-side technique isn't quite ideal for drums... But here is my current situation:

Four: Shure sm57 (snare/toms)
One: shure beta 52 (kick)
One:CAD e300 ii(multi-pattern mic)


I WANT a matched pair of oktava mc012, and an additional CAD e300 so that I can play with xy or spaced pair, etc. and use stereo room mics as well.
I also want another kick mic so that I can record both sides of the kick and flip the phase.

But until then... Here is my idea:

Midside using CAD e300 and sm57. It could be kind of over the drummers head, with the sm57 pointing to the batter-side kick drum. Then would I flip the phase of the beta52 because its being recorded from the other side?


I once had a single condenser as an overhead, placed maybe 5' over the kick drum (pointing towards the batter side from an angle... So, almost the side of the kick but closer to the batter-side)

And mixed with the kick mic it made the kick sound awesome...never got that sound again though.

I am looking to upgrade eventually but just experimenting until I do

Obviously I plan to use my ears for myself but just wanted some input.
Thanks for any feedback.
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Sticking to one style of drum.mic setup is really hard. I experiment everytime. The weirderst places usually sound the best.

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I've gotten some nice results using four mics. A pair of 414s in MS about 5 feet in front of the kit and D112/Beta 52 on the kick and an SM57/81 on the snare. On occasion I would add something on the floor tom. This created a nice even kit sound. Of course it depends on the room. This particular room was quite small with windows on both sides and a strange skylight right above the kit.

I also had good luck just using a pair of overheads (sm81s set up following the diagonal plane of the kick and snare to center them in the stereo field) along with a kick and snare mic. I was forced to do this because I was low on inputs for an African percussion group I was recording. Before that I'd tried miking all the drums, without much luck.

Of course, that was all due to the space. I don't think you would need or want to flip the phase on your 52.
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