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Old 10th February 2013   #1
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where does jitter matter?

Hi!

Can anyone that has experience with digital audio help me wrap my head around a few matters:

Does "jitter" matter if you use a computer as a "bit-bucket" only? (only for storage of an incoming digital stream) example:

if I split an AES3-out signal from my main A/D (set to its internal clock) into 2 different s/pdif-streams (toslink & rca) with this device:

Lake People

and then monitor one stream with a stand-alone asynchron D/A (for example Benchmark dac-1 or Mytek da96) set to their own clock

and also record the other (toslink) directly to my macbook pro,

will any "jitter" in the toslink-stream (to the computer) matter or is the "conversion" already made in the A/D with that internal clock? (this is what i`ve read and i`m checking now so i dont got it totally backwards..)

If the answer is that it fine then there is no actual need to clock the "bit-bucket" and the d/a together?, so you can actually record & monitor perfectly without any "interface" except the built in toslink-ports in the macbook pro?

thanks in advance!

(my head has been spinning, i`m still learning) =)
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i think i found an answer:

Jitter - Benchmark

The people at Benchmark calls the (forever "printed" errors in the A/D-process)
"conversion clock jitter" and they are the result of the clock that is used during A/D.

The jitter that occurs during transport and interfacing is called "interface jitter" and matters when your going to D/A-convert. The "anti-jitter" functions in the D/A ("jet pll" for example) that takes place before actual conversion decides the purity of the final listenable analogue signal.

So in my example with the "bit-bucket-computer" it does nor matter at all if that signal becomes "jittery" on the way to the computer (interface jitter) since that is not "permanent", but rather "temporary".

Unless Benchmark is full of s... i think i got it now, but if anyone cares to comment, feel free!


found another link:

http://www.digido.com/articles-and-d...15-jitter.html

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Only your a/d conversions should need to be clocked by the same oscillator.

The receiving computer doesn't care. It just writes the data to disk at any old time.
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Yes, thank you!

and that opens up a whole lot of possibilities to use the macbook with stand-alone a/d & d/a´s without any further "interfacing" then the built-in digital i/o (mini-toslink) as long as you only process 2 channels at the time..
exciting times!
no more firewire-chipset-issues, driver-upgrades och firmware-conflicts on products thats needs constant attention just to pass ad/da in/out of a computer..
i will just have a nice digital format converter & plenty of digital cables and then i have many configurations to choose from wherever i go with my macbook.
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im glad that worked out for you man.
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