What's the difference between Lexicon 480 & Pro Tools 9 in the box???

[RiF]

The 480 is a reverb unit and PT9 is a DAW software. What exactly do you want to compare?

[mikebailey92]

Native Instruments & Softube just brought out the RC48 plug-in which models the hall setting of the Lexicon 480. It costs about $200 I think. But really there are a ton of excellent reverb plug-ins that will set you back a lot less than $4k. Valhalla Room is absolutely brilliant & costs $50. The D-Verb in Pro Tools certainly has its uses. While the plug-ins might not give you exactly what a hardware 480 does, you can certainly get excellent results from reverb plug-ins without setting yourself back $4k.

[refae]

Originally Posted by RiF

The 480 is a reverb unit and PT9 is a DAW software. What exactly do you want to compare?

Yeah, basically I'm asking about the difference between a 480 & the D-Verb that I've been using in Pro Tools 9...

[s.d.finley]

Originally Posted by refae

Yeah, basically I'm asking about the difference between a 480 & the D-Verb that I've been using in Pro Tools 9...

One is a world class reverb and the other.......

[RiF]

Ahhh.. OK..
Although I am using and liking D-Verb for some things, I think there are better options out there.
If you're into the 480 thing, there's this Relab 480LX plugin, but I don't know if the new version is RTAS (needed for PT compat.).

ValhallaRoom and ValhallaVintageVerb (Vee3) are both fantastic where Vee3 is heavily Lexicon-inspired. These are my goto reverbs.

And then there's Lexicon own's PCM bundle, which is a PCM-9x in the box.

All of the above are great reverbs that I'd try before shelling out serious $$$ for a hardware unit.
I still have my PCM70, though... but Vee3 comes very close.

[refae]

Originally Posted by s.d.finley

One is a world class reverb and the other.......

Can you please expand on what makes one and the other 'world class'. Obviously the price tag is one difference. What about sonic quality? How does the value show up in the real world? Thanks

Thanks everyone for the great replies so far, I'll check out these other options.

[s.d.finley]

You have heard Dverb right? I first heard it when I got my first PT rig in 2000. I always thought it sounded grainy and flat, not much movement or lushness to it. Its a pretty standard dull sounding but somewhat natural lame reverb.

The lexicon is alive! It has much more depth and movement and lushness to its sound. The lexi may sound 'unreal' but it will make the source come alive. There are many more parameters to tweek to get a much better sound from the 480 than dverb, which has only 5 parameter but the lexi has over 30 IIRC.
You don't need to pony up $4k for the 480, try some demos of the Vahalla verbs, these kill dverb IMNSHO.

Also part of the 480 sound is the ad/da in it. I have a Sony DPS R7 and its from 1991 and it sounds so lush and alive I love it! The R7 does 40k sample rate and has 16 bit adda I think. This is part of its sound. Demo as many softverb plug ins as you can and see what works for you. You dont need to spend the $4k on the 480 to get a great reverb.

[AuldLangSine]

What patches do you like on the Sony R7? What patches do you use on what-- like what patches in vocals, which ones on drums, etc? Thank you