Recording Vocals over a Reason File.

[Avidmusician]

Hmm that sounds strange, check a couple of things:

1) Ensure you're not exporting your audio with any kind of mastering suite enabled.

2) Check you're not downsampling and then upsampling (recording in reason at 96k, exporting at 44.1k/16 and then importing to a session at 96k.

3) Are you exporting everything "mixed" from reason and then trying to mix it again in PT? I always reset all channel strips before I export and then just set the faders so each track peaks around -18dbfs.

Let me know how you get on because I use Reason / PT setup and I don't have any problems like this. Good luck!

[sdelso]

Hello Avidmusician,

Thanks very much for this advice.

1) I have to learn more about this, I don't think I have any mastering suite enabled, unless its default.

2) This is very good advice!

3) Yes! I am mixing down the entire song into an audio file (I think its in wav). And then I mix down the wav file and the singing track on ProTools. Should I import the midi file from Reason to ProTools?

[Bender412]

Originally Posted by sdelso

I finished writing a song on Reason.

Now I want to add vocals. What is the best way to do this?

When I export the audio and bring it into ProTools it sounds rather cheese. Help!

You might have to define "cheese" for us, or post a sample of this dairy product so we can taste.. I mean.. hear it.

[Avidmusician]

This is a personal thing to me, but I strongly disagree with bouncing the whole mix in reason. Export each track individually. That way, any elements of your track that compete with the vocal can be altered. It gives you more options.

[sdelso]

Export each track - at its optimal 96k - and import it individually - at 96k - into ProTools? That's pretty heavy & tedious. If it will work, I will do this for sure! I will let you know how it goes.

[johnnyv]

When you say you are " not sure I think it's a wave" ?? man, get a handle on that. When you export make sure the right boxes are checked. Then play the song with WMP or in the car.
The other clue here is you are saying the song is created with MIDI.
Does it sound good before you export it?
As said above , you should keep everything as a multi track project as each instrument interacts with the vocals so I would never want to work the way you are. That's like karaoke

[Avidmusician]

It's tedious because propellerhead don't have an Export All function like Logic does. It just has to be done I'm afraid... You need to be able to mix your music properly, it's not advisable to add vocal tracks over a mixed music track. Let me know how it goes.

[sdelso]

I think I am about to go insane!

I tried to export every track manually on reason. Each track was exactly 94 mb! I have 7 tracks! That's A LOT of gb for just one standard 3 minute electro-pop song!

I am scared to put it all in a ProTools session because the computer I'm running ProTools on is an old junker. I can't use ProTools on my new computer because I would need to buy the new version of ProTools (I got screwed over there, I just bought that version 4 years ago! Tech support told me to buy the new one, do they think I'm made out of money?).

So I figured my next best option was to learn Ableton from scratch. After sitting through an entire Sunday of video tutorials (which were really good), I tried to import the audio tracks manually in Ableton, but they kept on going out of sync! After much analyzing, I learned that I needed to deselect "warped" on each track. But still, one track kept on going a tad off. I tried to import it with midi and find the best sample to match the one in reason, but couldn't because the ones in Ableton are super short.

This is such a killer to the creative process, I want to focus on making music, but I'm focussing too much in the technical side.

So I'm left with a few options:

1. Blow almost a k on the new ProTools for my new sturdy Mac, and pray that it won't expire tomorrow.
2. Record the vocals on Garageband, and mix down there!
3. Pay a sound studio.

Is option two any good? Any other better options?

Thank you. This community is very supportive.

[Manfrensengensen]

Upgrade to reason 6 and record in reason.

[CaseyMartin]

Originally Posted by Manfrensengensen

Upgrade to reason 6 and record in reason.

This one million times. Unless there are plug ins that you are specifically wanting to use.

Occam's razor. Keep it as simple as possible.

[Mbsobez]

Maybe call Reasons tech support? Its hard to believe that there is no simple solution to what your saying. After all, bouncing down audio files is one of the most important featurea in any DAW.

Wish i could help you further, but I wouldnt jump to pro tools to rectify this problem. Id think the solution is simple, all you need to do is find someone good with reason.

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[sdelso]

No use, Reason 5 doesn't record vocals.

Anyway, so what I ended up doing was:

1. exporting all the tracks individually from Reason to Garageband. I saved them all as .wav rather than .midi because I wouldn't be able to have the samples on Garageband, right?

2. Mbox that I paid $300 for doesn't work, so I had to use the built in microphone on this computer and record on Garageband.

3. Mixed and bounced on Garageband.


Well it was a big head ache, to get this to be even technically semi-professional, I would need to do a lot of shopping again it seems. I want to focus on creating a quick demo for an all girl eco electro pop band! Here is the outcome if anyone is interested:

Sandy by milibox on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free