Duende PC version finally

serfer2061 · 28th November 2006, 02:42 PM

Just been looking at SSL web site and low and behold PC version!!!!!

maybe time to get one.... Christmas present mmmmmm

Buddhaman · 28th November 2006, 03:41 PM

awesome!!!!

sigmatibet · 28th November 2006, 03:48 PM

Amazing product!!!!

(A Mac User...)

jjdpro · 28th November 2006, 04:16 PM

Good move SSL.. Maybe Apogee can take notes..???

Quote:

Originally Posted by serfer2061

Just been looking at SSL web site and low and behold PC version!!!!!

maybe time to get one.... Christmas present mmmmmm

The Beatsmith · 28th November 2006, 09:37 PM

I'm sure it was always meant for PC eventually, just that it came out for macs first in the development cycle

warhead · 29th November 2006, 06:27 PM

I'm excited by this myself...I've only had limited use with Duende next door on the studio's G5 but finally I can have one here in the showroom for demo and also pick one up for my PC / Nuendo rig!!!

Here is the link by the way:

http://www.solid-state-logic.com/mus...downloads.html

War

RedOne · 29th November 2006, 07:38 PM

And some are tired of waiting for the MAC INTEL drivers!

kellyd · 2nd December 2006, 04:55 PM

Having strange issues with the Duende I installed last nite on my PC. In Nuendo after inserting the SSL channel eventually the track cuts off. You have to disable the SSL to get the track back. I've also had some wierd tone bursts. From what little time I've been able to mess with this thing. looks like it's the ticket. Anyone experience these issues? Thanks in adavance. -K.

XP SP2
Dual Opteron 246s
N3.2

SnakeCained · 2nd December 2006, 07:25 PM

Got one this afternoon!

Working fine in Nuendo 3.2

Do you have any other firewire stuff? What about trying to run the installer again?

It was all very painless here........

theother · 2nd December 2006, 08:16 PM

Finally!!

Can't wait to get one!

kellyd · 2nd December 2006, 09:52 PM

SC, can you look at your Duende console for me? The version, firmware and ser# are grayed out on mine (unlike the manual). The only things that are in black are active dsp slots and the headers dsp1 dsp2 and so on. Also when I was installing the software, the vst part of the drivers were grayed out unlike the rtas. I'm assuming that it's the default since all users need those components.. Do you remember.
I had UA cards in previously and thought maybe that was it. Removed the cards and software. Even changed PCI slots for the firwire. STill getting 100db bursts. Don't have anything else on which is saving my ass. Next, I'll try another firewire card. Any info would be helpful. I really want to get these up to finish some mixes.
Never had this much grief.

Forgot to mention MSI K8t master2-far is my main board

T_R_S · 2nd December 2006, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sigmatibet

Amazing product!!!!

(A Mac User...)

Yes, Amazing how bad software can be - Full of bugs...

kellyd · 2nd December 2006, 11:59 PM

Don't want to say it's fixed yet but........
I uninstalled everything again, rebooted, went to my vst folder and deleted the ssl folder. I also deleted the ssl folder in program files. Restarted and did it all over again. This time the directx and vst files were not grayed out. Lets see how the system likes reinstalling one of my Uad cards in the last slot.

kellyd · 3rd December 2006, 01:46 AM

Still stable. Gonna see how much I can keep my hands off my outboard this mix. At least I still had one slot left over for 1 of my 2 UADs. Fair trade off. 16 chs of pretty good ch strips for 3 1176s. Thanks again everyone. -K.

warhead · 3rd December 2006, 06:30 AM

By the way, on the SSL site it leads you to believe that it's only going to work with the software listed. When I asked SSL about this I was told that those were only programs they had been able to test it with so far. More than likely any system that will run VST will be OK but they won't put their stamp on it is all.

War

kudzu · 3rd December 2006, 08:37 AM

I have Duende on a Mac G5 ... If I download the PC drivers, can I use the same unit on my PC ? 'd b good if I could.

SnakeCained · 3rd December 2006, 05:13 PM

Well it's living happily with 3x UAD cards on my Nuendo rig.

Sounds great.

But I'd like to use the channel strip on every track in the mix!

That EQ is super smooth.

I got a G384 so the master comp is doing some drum sub buss duty. It's quite fun to stack two of them in a row, but bring that back parrallel with the uncomped drums.

Quality in a box.

Barilla · 3rd December 2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeCained

I got a G384 so the master comp is doing some drum sub buss duty.

SC, How are you finding it compared to the G384?

warhead · 4th December 2006, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kudzu

I have Duende on a Mac G5 ... If I download the PC drivers, can I use the same unit on my PC ? 'd b good if I could.

I would definitely pose that question to SSL.

War

bdunard · 4th December 2006, 06:48 AM

I know alot of guys don't like to invest in hardware but I love my UAD card and find that I am taxing my cpu using other eq's and compressors. I could upgrade my motherboard, cpu, and ram for about $900 or $1000 or I could purchase something like Duende and use it in addition. My question is how close is Duende to the actual ssl compared to UAD's remake of the neve stuff? I am very happy with the Neve 1081 but wondered how well Duende got the SSL eq and comp down?

kudzu · 4th December 2006, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdunard

I know alot of guys don't like to invest in hardware but I love my UAD card and find that I am taxing my cpu using other eq's and compressors. I could upgrade my motherboard, cpu, and ram for about $900 or $1000 or I could purchase something like Duende and use it in addition. My question is how close is Duende to the actual ssl compared to UAD's remake of the neve stuff? I am very happy with the Neve 1081 but wondered how well Duende got the SSL eq and comp down?

SSL Duende is all good .... complements UAD's very well ... Only warning is hi sample rate issue when using firewire ... IT DOESN'T WORK TO WELL !!!!!!

ten · 4th December 2006, 10:32 AM

Duende is not to good at 88/96 ?

ten

sigmatibet · 4th December 2006, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_R_S

Yes, Amazing how bad software can be - Full of bugs...

Been doing a whole record without an issue, mate...
and just booked for mastering.
Sorry for you.

lordward · 4th December 2006, 05:52 PM

I've been working 5 days with Duende for PC along side 3 UAD cards and a powercore FW.
Originally I had Win XP with SP1 but it didn't really work at all. Then I updated to SP2 (which I didn't want to do since you have to get on the net to do this) but all went well.

I first had the PC and Duende cascaded on one FW port and it worked well until I loaded lots of Native plugins. I ended up putting in another FW card and now I can go crazy! Lovin it! Sound is fantastic! I thought about updating my P4 3.2 gig to something modern but now I won't have to. I've got so much power and I'm tickled pink!!! This thing has made my life easier and my mixes better.

I hope the stabilty stays this way for awhile.

Cheers

lordward · 4th December 2006, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdunard

I know alot of guys don't like to invest in hardware but I love my UAD card and find that I am taxing my cpu using other eq's and compressors. I could upgrade my motherboard, cpu, and ram for about $900 or $1000 or I could purchase something like Duende and use it in addition. My question is how close is Duende to the actual ssl compared to UAD's remake of the neve stuff? I am very happy with the Neve 1081 but wondered how well Duende got the SSL eq and comp down?

It's just like the SSL C200. Duende is not an emulation really although you do have the option of the G or E series EQ. Handling, however, is very much like an SSL board - just with a few more options like side chaining with the filter or EQ. You can also have the filter before or after the EQ and you can monitor your Sidechain. The Duende saved me money, I was going to go for a PCI expansion chassis and another UAD card with some optional plugins but this would have cost me about the same and would have NOT given me 32 (count em, 32) SSL channels so I can really reocomend this product.

Cheers

Absolute · 4th December 2006, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdunard

I know alot of guys don't like to invest in hardware but I love my UAD card ?

I wouldnt call a UAD card hardware any more than I would call URS eq's running on my cpu and motherboard --hardware. Same with Duende. With Cpu's current power..the proper term would be glorified dongle

The idea of external cpu's for plugin processing is so archaic at this point its a wonder why people still fall for it

theother · 4th December 2006, 09:59 PM

True...they are no more than expensive dongles.

I'd rather have the UAD-1 and Duende plugins in native forms on powerful machines we have these days. (Protected with Syncrosoft or iLok) Dual Quadcore processors are on the horizon! Who needs DSP cards?

The advantage with native plugins is half of the latency which is important when recording (headphone mixes).

At the moment it's not possible to use UAD-1, Duende when recording.

I mix as I go, so when I do overdubs at a later stage I have to print the mix and get rid of all UAD-1 Duende for low latencies.

That's what I like about Waves SSL plugins. Only 1 sample latency. Guess that's about it what I like about Waves.

lordward · 4th December 2006, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theother

True...they are no more than expensive dongles.

I'd rather have the UAD-1 and Duende plugins in native forms on powerful machines we have these days. (Protected with Syncrosoft or iLok) Dual Quadcore processors are on the horizon! Who needs DSP cards?

The advantage with native plugins is half of the latency which is important when recording (headphone mixes).

At the moment it's not possible to use UAD-1, Duende when recording.

I mix as I go, so when I do overdubs at a later stage I have to print the mix and get rid of all UAD-1 Duende for low latencies.

That's what I like about Waves SSL plugins. Only 1 sample latency. Guess that's about it what I like about Waves.

I use the UAD (I have 3) and Duende primarily for mixing and I have no probelm with latency then because Cubase SX has full latency compensation. I only use hardware when I record.

I own the SSL bundle as well and I find the Duende sounds a bit smoother and has more possibilities.

As far as Duend or UAD being "glorified Dongles" I agree to a point, but I don't have the time to setup a new computer - if I were to buy one - and an extra 32 channel strips always comes in handy. The Waves plugins cost me 700 Euros and the Duende cost me twice as much so I feel that having this extra DSP AND the plugins to be a very fair price. God, I couldn't imagine taking a week off to set up a new computer, partly because I'm lazy and partly because I would have to install SOOO much stuff... no fun at all. Anyway I'm happy to know that for the next year at least I'll be very well equiped for my work.

RnR

theother · 5th December 2006, 12:10 AM

I agree, but eventually it would be a nice option to have them available in native formats, too.
I would even go as far and say buy the UAD-1 or Duende hardware and get native plug ins thrown in for free in the beginning so you can use both the computers processor or the external hardware.

lordward · 5th December 2006, 09:56 AM

theother, that would be a fantastic idea!

Now if we could just get the companies to agree!

I remember reading somewhere that UAD cannot re-code the plugins away from the Mpact chip very easily. I don't know if this is true or just a marketing tactic to make buyers feel "special". After all, they have TDM plugins of some.

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28th November 2006, 02:42 PM	#1
serfer2061 Gear interested Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6	Duende PC version finally Just been looking at SSL web site and low and behold PC version!!!!! maybe time to get one.... Christmas present mmmmmm

28th November 2006, 03:41 PM	#2
Buddhaman Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: CT Posts: 458	awesome!!!! awesome!!!! __________________ "Endeavor to persevere"

28th November 2006, 03:48 PM	#3
sigmatibet Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Milan - Italy Posts: 155	Amazing product!!!! (A Mac User...) __________________ www.myspace.com/sigmatibet www.stereodrive.net

29th November 2006, 06:27 PM	#6
warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,329	I'm excited by this myself...I've only had limited use with Duende next door on the studio's G5 but finally I can have one here in the showroom for demo and also pick one up for my PC / Nuendo rig!!! Here is the link by the way: http://www.solid-state-logic.com/mus...downloads.html War __________________ Warren Dent Email: warren (at) frontendaudio (dot) com Front End Audio Sells Gear Tuesday Testers: Hear the Gear Shootouts Product Videos on YouTube: Overviews of Gear

28th November 2006, 09:37 PM	#5
The Beatsmith Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 841	I'm sure it was always meant for PC eventually, just that it came out for macs first in the development cycle

29th November 2006, 07:38 PM	#7
RedOne Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Munich Posts: 49	And some are tired of waiting for the MAC INTEL drivers!

2nd December 2006, 04:55 PM	#8
kellyd Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 989	Having strange issues with the Duende I installed last nite on my PC. In Nuendo after inserting the SSL channel eventually the track cuts off. You have to disable the SSL to get the track back. I've also had some wierd tone bursts. From what little time I've been able to mess with this thing. looks like it's the ticket. Anyone experience these issues? Thanks in adavance. -K. XP SP2 Dual Opteron 246s N3.2

2nd December 2006, 07:25 PM	#9
SnakeCained Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LONDON Posts: 642	Got one this afternoon! Working fine in Nuendo 3.2 Do you have any other firewire stuff? What about trying to run the installer again? It was all very painless here........

2nd December 2006, 08:16 PM	#10
theother Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza Posts: 1,638	Finally!! Can't wait to get one!

2nd December 2006, 09:52 PM	#11
kellyd Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 989	SC, can you look at your Duende console for me? The version, firmware and ser# are grayed out on mine (unlike the manual). The only things that are in black are active dsp slots and the headers dsp1 dsp2 and so on. Also when I was installing the software, the vst part of the drivers were grayed out unlike the rtas. I'm assuming that it's the default since all users need those components.. Do you remember. I had UA cards in previously and thought maybe that was it. Removed the cards and software. Even changed PCI slots for the firwire. STill getting 100db bursts. Don't have anything else on which is saving my ass. Next, I'll try another firewire card. Any info would be helpful. I really want to get these up to finish some mixes. Never had this much grief. Forgot to mention MSI K8t master2-far is my main board

2nd December 2006, 11:59 PM	#13
kellyd Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 989	Don't want to say it's fixed yet but........ I uninstalled everything again, rebooted, went to my vst folder and deleted the ssl folder. I also deleted the ssl folder in program files. Restarted and did it all over again. This time the directx and vst files were not grayed out. Lets see how the system likes reinstalling one of my Uad cards in the last slot.

3rd December 2006, 01:46 AM	#14
kellyd Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 989	Still stable. Gonna see how much I can keep my hands off my outboard this mix. At least I still had one slot left over for 1 of my 2 UADs. Fair trade off. 16 chs of pretty good ch strips for 3 1176s. Thanks again everyone. -K.

3rd December 2006, 06:30 AM	#15
warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,329	By the way, on the SSL site it leads you to believe that it's only going to work with the software listed. When I asked SSL about this I was told that those were only programs they had been able to test it with so far. More than likely any system that will run VST will be OK but they won't put their stamp on it is all. War __________________ Warren Dent Email: warren (at) frontendaudio (dot) com Front End Audio Sells Gear Tuesday Testers: Hear the Gear Shootouts Product Videos on YouTube: Overviews of Gear

3rd December 2006, 08:37 AM	#16
kudzu Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Scotland UK Posts: 707	I have Duende on a Mac G5 ... If I download the PC drivers, can I use the same unit on my PC ? 'd b good if I could. __________________ www.myspace.com/kudzumusik

3rd December 2006, 05:13 PM	#17
SnakeCained Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: LONDON Posts: 642	Well it's living happily with 3x UAD cards on my Nuendo rig. Sounds great. But I'd like to use the channel strip on every track in the mix! That EQ is super smooth. I got a G384 so the master comp is doing some drum sub buss duty. It's quite fun to stack two of them in a row, but bring that back parrallel with the uncomped drums. Quality in a box.

4th December 2006, 06:48 AM	#20
bdunard Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: nashville Posts: 669	I know alot of guys don't like to invest in hardware but I love my UAD card and find that I am taxing my cpu using other eq's and compressors. I could upgrade my motherboard, cpu, and ram for about $900 or $1000 or I could purchase something like Duende and use it in addition. My question is how close is Duende to the actual ssl compared to UAD's remake of the neve stuff? I am very happy with the Neve 1081 but wondered how well Duende got the SSL eq and comp down?

4th December 2006, 10:32 AM	#22
ten Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Windsor, England Posts: 200	Duende is not to good at 88/96 ? ten

4th December 2006, 05:52 PM	#24
lordward Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 97	Love it! I've been working 5 days with Duende for PC along side 3 UAD cards and a powercore FW. Originally I had Win XP with SP1 but it didn't really work at all. Then I updated to SP2 (which I didn't want to do since you have to get on the net to do this) but all went well. I first had the PC and Duende cascaded on one FW port and it worked well until I loaded lots of Native plugins. I ended up putting in another FW card and now I can go crazy! Lovin it! Sound is fantastic! I thought about updating my P4 3.2 gig to something modern but now I won't have to. I've got so much power and I'm tickled pink!!! This thing has made my life easier and my mixes better. I hope the stabilty stays this way for awhile. Cheers

4th December 2006, 09:59 PM	#27
theother Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza Posts: 1,638	True...they are no more than expensive dongles. I'd rather have the UAD-1 and Duende plugins in native forms on powerful machines we have these days. (Protected with Syncrosoft or iLok) Dual Quadcore processors are on the horizon! Who needs DSP cards? The advantage with native plugins is half of the latency which is important when recording (headphone mixes). At the moment it's not possible to use UAD-1, Duende when recording. I mix as I go, so when I do overdubs at a later stage I have to print the mix and get rid of all UAD-1 Duende for low latencies. That's what I like about Waves SSL plugins. Only 1 sample latency. Guess that's about it what I like about Waves.

5th December 2006, 12:10 AM	#29
theother Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London & Ibiza Posts: 1,638	I agree, but eventually it would be a nice option to have them available in native formats, too. I would even go as far and say buy the UAD-1 or Duende hardware and get native plug ins thrown in for free in the beginning so you can use both the computers processor or the external hardware.

5th December 2006, 09:56 AM	#30
lordward Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 97	theother, that would be a fantastic idea! Now if we could just get the companies to agree! I remember reading somewhere that UAD cannot re-code the plugins away from the Mpact chip very easily. I don't know if this is true or just a marketing tactic to make buyers feel "special". After all, they have TDM plugins of some.