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Old 25th September 2006, 11:41 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Phantom- Remote controlled mic stand

So, I got to check out one of these bad boys...

http://www.studiotoyz.com/

AWESOME for girl groups. I'd love to see one of these in every vocal booth. If nothing else, just for the 'impress factor'. I wonder if they make them for Decca Tree's...
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I need one of those when I'm a big boy like E-Cue.


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Old 25th September 2006, 11:54 AM   #3
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Old 25th September 2006, 11:59 AM   #4
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Yeah... it ain't your run of the mill quicklok...

a lotta people thought Aeron chairs were overpriced, but they seem to be popular in some circles...
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Looks like the Mutt's Nutt's to me because someone said so.
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Old 25th September 2006, 12:03 PM   #6
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I won't buy 20 of em but for a first class facility - why not take a few. I'd be happy with 2


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That looks incredibly useful!! Perfect for fine-tuning overhead position, and pretty much any other multi-mike setup! I'd also really dig it for simple things like fine-tuning acc gtr mike positions and even trying different options (and mikes - with multiple stands) without having to leave the listening position!!
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It didn't say how high/low it goes, what weight it can carry etc, however it did say something about the adjustment being limited to 18 inches, IMHO thats a lot of money for limited usefulness.

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Talking

Oops, did I just send your $2500 mic through the roof?
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Oops, did I just send your $2500 mic through the roof?
With 18 inches of adjustment available, I would think its highly unlikely! lol

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Old 25th September 2006, 05:43 PM   #11
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this is great because i've clearly become too lazy to get up off my ass and move a mic stand up or down a few inches. Can't believe someone didn't come up with this usefull adition sooner

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That looks incredibly useful!! Perfect for fine-tuning overhead position, and pretty much any other multi-mike setup! I'd also really dig it for simple things like fine-tuning acc gtr mike positions and even trying different options (and mikes - with multiple stands) without having to leave the listening position!!


Dude, Seriously ! Incredibly use "less" !


Whilst I appreciate you might strive for perfection, this mic ain't gonna help your mic placement one bit ! (Except up and down I suppose).

" Studio Toyz is an innovative forward-thinking creator of high end studio gadgets".

Most gadget I've ever bought last about 2 days before being thrown in the closet !!

"Our products are undeniably one-of-a-kind. The Phantom is a wireless remote controlled mic stand for producers and engineers to really make life easier. Any time a new singer goes to the mic, just press a button to raise or lower the mic to the right height. For example, a singer wants to sit on a stool and sing for a while, no problem, just adjust the mic accordingly. If they stand back up... adjust again".

FFS !! Give me a break

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The Phantom is a product designed "by a producer FOR producers". (Stoners !) Help find that one vocal sweet spot, or use it just as easily to move the mic across a speaker cabinet or acoustic guitar".

One problem...I only see two buttons, Up and Down meaning your search for "That sweet spot" will be limited to vertical, meaning you will only ever search under fifty percent of the area you are micing !! Up and Down !!!

Give me a version of this mic stand that has a rolling base and 360 degree moving mic head...then we'd be talking.

Add an interent connection and you could mic by iP !!

Serioulsy, can anyone think of just one good use for this that would justify the price?

Only one person I can think of buying this and thats P Diddy, but even then he probably wouldn't pay for it, you'd only get an endorsement and anyway.. its not diamond encrusted !!

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Coinciding with the release of Hewlett Packard’s iPod digital music player, rap recording artist P.Diddy (aka Puff Daddy, Puffy, Sean "Puffy" Combs) reportedly arrived at his MTV Video Music Awards after-party with a customized 120 diamond Apple iPod from HP. Attendees to the party also each receive a new HP iPod, although without the diamonds.

I'd say this is almost as useful as a fader wand giving you "That extra reaching power" without having to lean forward on your mixing chair !!


I can think of a hundred better uses for the money this would cost.

Heres just 1 !

http://www.reamp.com/

Now thats a gadget !!
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Old 25th September 2006, 06:15 PM   #13
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yea i really didnt want those 2 channels of high end pres anyway...
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A totally good idea

I've read about this in old Mix magazine (circa 1985-1995) at one of the studios here.

That is way cooler in terms of being able to move all-around (think joystick). I don't know about precision, but i love being able to mic something and yet sit in the sweet spot, finding the best sound possible.

I'd pay for that unit right away, if it can do all-around movement and not just up and down. (But i'm worried of hitting the mic) if i have no visual on where it should be...
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hhhmmm...

only vertical travel too bad.

give me one w/ a joystick and I'll be happy!
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I would buy it if they had a mod that gave me a " knock the singers teeth out" mode.
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You guys are missing the point! Put it on a guitar cab and toggle back and forth for real doppler effect!
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Old 25th September 2006, 09:42 PM   #18
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I would buy it if they had a mod that gave me a " knock the singers teeth out" mode.
We need that for live bands although I think that mod within my circle of friends is called a beer bottle.

That stand is a pretty nifty idea, but for myself, I would rather buy 2 Latch Lake Mic Kings instead. But these sure could be useful for a large comemrcial facility.
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I'll keep waiting for the 1st incarnation of C3PO's retarded metal chimpanzee terminator brother to handle mic positioning duties. And when they don't cost so much. The only cheap equivalent we have today is the intern.. but you gotta feed 'em.

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If you don't cut pro vocals for a living, I doubt this is an investment for you. I thought that was pretty obviously.

I keep doing gigs at producer's small/private studios where there's never an assistant, and being able to switch pre/comp/eq settings for a different vocalist without having to go in the booth and re adjust the mic is much more efficient and time saving. And as far as the range, 18 inches is enough for a session with Darryl Hall and John Oats. Also, it can lift 150 Lbs. That should cover any decent array of mics you throw at it.

Here's some more more info from the designer about a multi-axis version for those looking for more functionality:

4 motor multi axis stepper motor +-45 degree mic rotation
18 inch forward and back
18 inch across the speaker
18 inch up and down

Programmable, LCD display, write locations with .005 repeatability in
recall, wireless, coming to the site within 30 days, listing at 2500.


Pricey? For some, sure, but who couldn't imagine how much easier and better mic'ing guitar cabs would be with this thing? If you don't have anyone else, you are stuck with trial and error. If you DO have an assistant, you have to do that "When the guitarist stops playing, secure the mic", and it always seems to hang lower or off axis once tightened.

How about a chamber reverb? How about position riding instead of gain riding? Tons of possibilities, provided the motor isn't too loud.


You might wanna check this out in person before you rag on it.
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Maybe when they build a mic stand that can adjust the angle and width of a stereo pair. that would be nice for location recording especially in live situations.
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Dude, Seriously ! Incredibly use "less" !


Whilst I appreciate you might strive for perfection, this mic ain't gonna help your mic placement one bit ! (Except up and down I suppose).

" Studio Toyz is an innovative forward-thinking creator of high end studio gadgets".

Most gadget I've ever bought last about 2 days before being thrown in the closet !!

"Our products are undeniably one-of-a-kind. The Phantom is a wireless remote controlled mic stand for producers and engineers to really make life easier. Any time a new singer goes to the mic, just press a button to raise or lower the mic to the right height. For example, a singer wants to sit on a stool and sing for a while, no problem, just adjust the mic accordingly. If they stand back up... adjust again".

FFS !! Give me a break

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The Phantom is a product designed "by a producer FOR producers". (Stoners !) Help find that one vocal sweet spot, or use it just as easily to move the mic across a speaker cabinet or acoustic guitar".

One problem...I only see two buttons, Up and Down meaning your search for "That sweet spot" will be limited to vertical, meaning you will only ever search under fifty percent of the area you are micing !! Up and Down !!!

Give me a version of this mic stand that has a rolling base and 360 degree moving mic head...then we'd be talking.

Add an interent connection and you could mic by iP !!

Serioulsy, can anyone think of just one good use for this that would justify the price?

Only one person I can think of buying this and thats P Diddy, but even then he probably wouldn't pay for it, you'd only get an endorsement and anyway.. its not diamond encrusted !!

FYI
Coinciding with the release of Hewlett Packard’s iPod digital music player, rap recording artist P.Diddy (aka Puff Daddy, Puffy, Sean "Puffy" Combs) reportedly arrived at his MTV Video Music Awards after-party with a customized 120 diamond Apple iPod from HP. Attendees to the party also each receive a new HP iPod, although without the diamonds.

I'd say this is almost as useful as a fader wand giving you "That extra reaching power" without having to lean forward on your mixing chair !!


I can think of a hundred better uses for the money this would cost.

Heres just 1 !

http://www.reamp.com/

Now thats a gadget !!
thanks for your valuable contribution to the forum, and for your tips on helping me improve both the content of my posts and my engineering skills. Indeed we are priviliged to have you here. I also was very impressed with the way you managed to include a re-amp in a discussion about motorised mic stands without straying OT.


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If you don't cut pro vocals for a living, I doubt this is an investment for you. I thought that was pretty obviously.

I keep doing gigs at producer's small/private studios where there's never an assistant, and being able to switch pre/comp/eq settings for a different vocalist without having to go in the booth and re adjust the mic is much more efficient and time saving.

You are kidding right?

Personally I would never send the assistant to position the mic, and usually there is adequate time between singers to go into the studio and change mic position if required. But I am always willing to believe that there is an engineer lazy enough to sit behind the console and bark orders at an intern rather than actually do his job.

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You are kidding right?

Personally I would never send the assistant to position the mic, and usually there is adequate time between singers to go into the studio and change mic position if required. But I am always willing to believe that there is an engineer lazy enough to sit behind the console and bark orders at an intern rather than actually do his job.

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yeah you're right, e-cue has no idea what he's talking about, its not as if he's ever done many engineering sessions before and I'm sure its all about being lazy for him....
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I knew I should have posted this in "High End" instead of "New Product".

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Personally I would never send the assistant to position the mic, and usually there is adequate time between singers to go into the studio and change mic position if required. But I am always willing to believe that there is an engineer lazy enough to sit behind the console and bark orders at an intern rather than actually do his job.

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You are kidding right?
Yep... Except for calling myself a d¡ck.
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i think its a cool idea!
i have other things i need more but that is cool.
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