any notions of when the UAD-2 might appear?

dubrichie · 19th August 2006, 05:10 PM

alrighty folks,

does anybody have any kind of notion when Universal Audio might be releasing the next, ie upgraded and more powerful UAD card?

i'm still holding out on the investment but crunch time is fast approaching when i feel it will be very advantageous for me to have it's range of plugins, in terms of bang for the buck mixing power and quality.

sure, i'd love to get the outboard, but can't just quite yet.

thanks,

regards,

richie.

ptbarnum · 19th August 2006, 05:51 PM

those guys move slowly. i wouldn't hold your breath

K-Slash · 19th August 2006, 06:35 PM

I have mailed them, and for the moment they develop the Neve 33609 compressor/limiter emulation, after the Neve 1081, and maybe after that, they'll concentrate their efforts on building the UAD-2.

Neve 33609 emulation is planned for this fall : october/november.

s.d.finley · 20th August 2006, 10:09 PM

Did they hint that the Neve stuff would work on the UAD-1 PCI cards?

I hope so, luv that 1073!!

sdf

audiomichael · 21st August 2006, 03:37 AM

The Neve stuff is totally compatible.

I wouldn't expect any Firewire powered UAD's in the future. In one of there press releases about the new PCIe cards they mention that Firewire just can't compete in the bandwidth department.

At some point they HAVE to release a faster card. The Neve 1073 take 1/4 power of the whole card. I'm thinking that the 33609 is gonna take even MORE power.

peeder · 22nd August 2006, 11:47 PM

I woulda thought the move to PCI Express would have been the opportunity to do this, and they apparently didn't take that opportunity. So they may be waiting for a better chip to work with and port all their stuff over to that.

Reptil · 23rd August 2006, 04:20 AM

maybe native with a dongle?

tommymakestapes · 24th August 2006, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reptil

maybe native with a dongle?

In my dreams..

xist · 24th August 2006, 10:28 AM

I hope they're already working on v.2, because if they start working on it after all the Neve stuff is released it will mean that we won't have that card at least until the end of 2007/early 2008.
And the old card was already seriously underpowered at least since when the Roland stuff (the space echo) came out...

it's a pity, they could have been the leader of the market in this field with a better card.

subatomic · 24th August 2006, 03:59 PM

I could be wrong... but, I think that even with the existing card, they're already the leader in the market in this field because of the quality of their plugs.

Jtt · 24th August 2006, 07:09 PM

I think that they are making too much money selling multiples of these old (and probably inexpensive to make) underpowered cards to making developing a new one a priority. The quality of the plugs, at least for now, has kept the market captive.

But if they hold off too long, they will bite themselves in the ass.

Jtt

dubrichie · 24th August 2006, 08:34 PM

indeed.

i just have this nagging feeling that its going to be, or at least seem to be relatively underpowered very soon.

the powercore already has much more juice.

true, it is the UA range of plugins that im after but still, its old already and the technology must be there by now to crank out #2 with at least 4X the power of #1.

i just feel that the price is kinda high to pay right now for something that is showing its age, power-wise anyway.

the new plugs for it, the neves, of which only the 1073 has been released are using ridiculous amounts of the card... and by all accounts sounding excellent.

ah, sure what do i know?!

regards,

richie.

tommymakestapes · 24th August 2006, 09:36 PM

The card being so weak as far as its processing power goes is the whole reason I didn't buy in. I can run too many instances of great sounding plug ins natively. Now when they come out with a New card and It's blazing fast? I'm in. But if they're behind the times (power wise) when It comes out, which I feel is a distinct possibility then I'll be waiting for the UAD-3 card.. or Death. Whatever comes first.

max cooper · 26th August 2006, 03:17 AM

UAD-2?

mixedup · 26th August 2006, 12:21 PM

As long as you have enough PCI/PCIe slots in your machine UAD is fine. It is inexpensive compared with the Powercore, both in terms of hardware and software, and the plugins are generally better too. I have three UAD cards and a couple of powercore MkIIs which, alongside a decent compliment of native plugins, is usually far more than I need to do a mix at 44.1 or 48KHz. OK, so there's a four card limit on UADs, but you can always get another PC and load that one up with more cards and use the plugins over FX Teleport. Its underpowered compared to the Powercore but I get a hell of a lot more use and satisfaction out of my UADs.

UAD will have to get their act together on an update some time soon as we see more DSP stuff on the market, but waiting for technology is folly - by the same token you'd never upgrade your Mac/PC because there's something better around the corner. I reckon its just best get the best stuff available at the time and get on with using it. Otherwise you are missing out now so that you don't miss out tomorrow. You can always upgrade later...

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19th August 2006, 05:10 PM	#1
dubrichie Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 1,164	any notions of when the UAD-2 might appear? alrighty folks, does anybody have any kind of notion when Universal Audio might be releasing the next, ie upgraded and more powerful UAD card? i'm still holding out on the investment but crunch time is fast approaching when i feel it will be very advantageous for me to have it's range of plugins, in terms of bang for the buck mixing power and quality. sure, i'd love to get the outboard, but can't just quite yet. thanks, regards, richie. __________________ regards, richie. "a paradigm of restraint and good taste at a time of frequent excess"

19th August 2006, 05:51 PM	#2
ptbarnum Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 286	those guys move slowly. i wouldn't hold your breath

19th August 2006, 06:35 PM	#3
K-Slash Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: OSNY, Val d'Oise (95), France Posts: 162	I have mailed them, and for the moment they develop the Neve 33609 compressor/limiter emulation, after the Neve 1081, and maybe after that, they'll concentrate their efforts on building the UAD-2. Neve 33609 emulation is planned for this fall : october/november.

20th August 2006, 10:09 PM	#4
s.d.finley Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,039	Did they hint that the Neve stuff would work on the UAD-1 PCI cards? I hope so, luv that 1073!! sdf

21st August 2006, 03:37 AM	#5
audiomichael Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: L. A.-ish Posts: 1,325	The Neve stuff is totally compatible. I wouldn't expect any Firewire powered UAD's in the future. In one of there press releases about the new PCIe cards they mention that Firewire just can't compete in the bandwidth department. At some point they HAVE to release a faster card. The Neve 1073 take 1/4 power of the whole card. I'm thinking that the 33609 is gonna take even MORE power.

22nd August 2006, 11:47 PM	#6
peeder Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: No longer participating here. Posts: 6,742	I woulda thought the move to PCI Express would have been the opportunity to do this, and they apparently didn't take that opportunity. So they may be waiting for a better chip to work with and port all their stuff over to that.

24th August 2006, 10:28 AM	#9
xist Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 508	I hope they're already working on v.2, because if they start working on it after all the Neve stuff is released it will mean that we won't have that card at least until the end of 2007/early 2008. And the old card was already seriously underpowered at least since when the Roland stuff (the space echo) came out... it's a pity, they could have been the leader of the market in this field with a better card.

24th August 2006, 03:59 PM	#10
subatomic Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 60	I could be wrong... but, I think that even with the existing card, they're already the leader in the market in this field because of the quality of their plugs.

24th August 2006, 07:09 PM	#11
Jtt Gear Head Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 62	I think that they are making too much money selling multiples of these old (and probably inexpensive to make) underpowered cards to making developing a new one a priority. The quality of the plugs, at least for now, has kept the market captive. But if they hold off too long, they will bite themselves in the ass. Jtt

26th August 2006, 12:21 PM	#15
mixedup Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 15	As long as you have enough PCI/PCIe slots in your machine UAD is fine. It is inexpensive compared with the Powercore, both in terms of hardware and software, and the plugins are generally better too. I have three UAD cards and a couple of powercore MkIIs which, alongside a decent compliment of native plugins, is usually far more than I need to do a mix at 44.1 or 48KHz. OK, so there's a four card limit on UADs, but you can always get another PC and load that one up with more cards and use the plugins over FX Teleport. Its underpowered compared to the Powercore but I get a hell of a lot more use and satisfaction out of my UADs. UAD will have to get their act together on an update some time soon as we see more DSP stuff on the market, but waiting for technology is folly - by the same token you'd never upgrade your Mac/PC because there's something better around the corner. I reckon its just best get the best stuff available at the time and get on with using it. Otherwise you are missing out now so that you don't miss out tomorrow. You can always upgrade later...

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