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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| CAD Introduces 3 New Mics, the "Trion" Series CAD is introducing 3 new mics called the Trion series, and are being released now. The Trion 6000 is a solid state multi pattern condensor (pictured left), the Trion 7000 is CAD's first entry into the ribbon mic market (pictured center) and the Trion 8000 is CAD's latest multi pattern tube mic (pictured right). Street pricing: Trion 6000: $299 Trion 7000: $259 Trion 8000: $399 I have no further info as CAD has not even issued a press release on this (and likely won't). War
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Austin
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| I saw these at the show. Problem is that when I was at the booth the guy there didn't know anything about the mics. What spl can the ribbon take? Don't know but there is a guy around here somewhere. What's the specs, freq response? Uh, don't know they're new. I was surprised how many times I talked to somene at a booth that didn't have even the most basic info available. Guess it's all about timing. The Cads did look like they were manufactured really well. |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southampton
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| im liking the look, the ribbon looks like a light bulb! you heard em' warren? |
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2003
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Finally some good looking stuff from CAD!!! Are they US made??? i mean 100% us MADE??? | |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX
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| Shades of China That double ribbon element looks like (through the mesh) a Chinese assembley that's shown up in a couple of new Ribbon mics - including that neat looking one in the group buy. I would be real surprised if they were 100% US made at that price - hopefully they at least finish and test them here. I had a CAD Chinese mic years ago - they politely called it the OEM range - that was fine. One of those u87 lookalikes with the smile curve eq. Buy the time I had saved up enough for the e300 they stopped making them so I had to buy an AT instead. Oh Well. Are these mics actually in stock anywhere? War are you going to stock these?
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| I saw (but did not hear) them at summer NAMM...you should have seen the look on the face of the rep when I told them the Trion ribbon was in the EXACT same housing as the SE Triton condensor... That said, who gives a hoot what they look like...I'm wanting to demo the Trion ribbon for review/just because I need some more ribbon mics...the CAD people at their booth seemed to be very friendly and professional, giving a bit more creedence to their new direction of quality... Looking forward to hearing from them, and hearing the Trions...
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perth, Australia
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| looks good. CAD moved all their production to china a few years ago so i think its safe to say they would be made in china but the question is are they US designs using cheep chinese manufacturing like the M series or are they just the same chinese designs with the CAD badge on them like the GXLs appear to be. |
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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| I have no info other than we have some on the way within about a week. We will be stocking them, they have plenty and are shipping. All CAD mics are made in China these days, somehow they keep the level of quality and performance well above similarly priced competitors (in many cases). The M179 still amazes me that it sells for under $200 with a shock mount and everything...that mic is the most anti-cheap sounding mic in its price range. CAD is not so hot at marketing but excel at making good mics. I'd take that over well packaged crap any day. War
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| Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Albany, New York
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| Amen. (As if you don't hear that enough, day in day out.)
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| Lives for gear | I mixed something with vocals tracked with a CAD tube mic (something in the 600 dollar range I think) and it sounded great. Easily would have thought it was a high end mic. I'm interested in getting a pair of something cheap for drum rooms.. Maybe these will be the ticket.. |
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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Planet red, I'm still waiting to receive these mics but for drum rooms? CAD M179 mics deliver the goods as far as a beefy full sound, and the completely variable pattern rocks for room use as you can dial it in tight or loose...whatever the need is. The M179 is probably the most amazing under $200 mic ever, period, end of story...in my opinion of course! I own 3, might get a fourth soon as I am now discovering how much they rock on outer kick drum (I use my other 3 primarily on toms). War
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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| The mics (finally) showed up today, the studio next door grabbed the solid state condensor mic for a vocal session he had tonight to try it out. I snuck a few minutes in with the Trion ribbon mic in the vocal booth and spent some time talking into it (which is the best way for me to familiarize myself with a mic initially anyhow). The ribbon sounds good. It's a figure 8 pattern like 99% of all ribbons out there, and the back has a slightly brighter top end response just like 99% of all figure 8 ribbon mics out there. My initial thoughts on the mic are that it will likely perform well on a variety of sources but cannot testify yet. If the guys next door report on the ss condensor tomorrow I'll let ya know. They seem really well built and look very nice (love the bottle mic look). War
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Vegas
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004
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| Hey War. How big are these Cad mics? The picture seems a little deceiving. Just wondering are they "life-like" ( as in Bottle) or cut down version? I'm interested tho'. I have their E-200 and thinking, this LDC might be the way to go! Thanks
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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Solar, we shipped 3 orders into Canada today alone. If you need us to help with anything that's never really an issue. I'm not familiar with the model mic you've mentioned so I have nothing to compare it with when making a recommendation. At the time of this writing, I've played around some with the ribbon and also loaned the ss condensor out to the studio next door but haven't heard back yet on what they thought. I will report back soon. Snatchman (love that name...does it have to do with what I think it might? ) as a point of reference the Trion 8000 tube mic which I'm holding in my hand uses a 1.12" gold capsule and the total size across the "head" of the mic is about 2.5" across. It is a sizeable mic, and heavy and feels and looks very well built which is typical of CAD. The power supply also runs on 115v or 230v for Euro-slutz!War
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Vegas
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Thaxn for replying and thats fantastci that you guyz can ship to Canada but do not worry in the worst case i can ship them in a place of mine in the states, close to New York so it will be much easier. Anyways, i'd love for sure very soon to purchase one but i'll be intrested to hear some feedback and also some samples that could be posted here to ehar how they are and they sound. Thanx again tlk soon | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Vegas
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| Hey Waren! Hey buddy! How are you doing? So any news about the NEW CAD microphones? Did you get to try them in session , any snipet that we could hear? I'm still intrested.. thank you so much! |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada/Vegas
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| Forgot to ask!! Or Waren, if you happen to know any distributor up here in Canada/Montreal who does thave them, let me know cuz i'll be intrested to go there and grab a one or two different ones and try thejm in session before i BUY them ok! Thank you so much |
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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Those certainly look the same, only difference I can tell is the ribbon model CAD ships comes mounted in the shock mount already in the case. It's no secret CAD has been building all of their mics in China for quite some time now, yet somehow their end product is consistently useable and seems a step beyond many others in their price range. War
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when you say "CAD has been building all of their mics in China", is that really correct? isn't it more the case like with all the other branded oem mics that they simply purchase and sell on with their own outer cardboard boxes (if used) - the chinese factory does the mic case/barrel Logo & model number etching. makes you wonder how a western-territory marketting campaign makes an OEM branded mic 'buzz' where another from the same factory with no western marketting doesnt get the props. anyways if one peruses those chinese company sites you can see many of the new 'brand name' mic's makes you wonder what'd happen if some of these chinese factories (besides SE) start to actualy setup, supply and retail, which'd cut some more cost perhaps
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I certainly see your point. CAD used to buy most of the components from China and build certain models here in the US (M179 comes to mind) but nowadays everything is built in China. For some reason CAD have a nice offering that is rarely of the harsh, thin sounding breed. I'm sure in the coming weeks some other company will be marketing these models as "new" but these mics are the first I've seen in this design anyhow. I agree about sE, they not only design and build their own mics in house with no "OEM rebranding" going on, they even build the cases that the mics ship in. Yes, they cost more $$$ but they have a unique offering and obviously do a much lower volume of production due to not making mics for dozens of companies at once. As far as retail, that'd be tough for them to do but it may happen someday. War ![]()
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| SE do build for others afaik tho Quote:
do you like the UK SUBS? ;)
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| Gear addict | What's curious is that the ribbon mic definitely looks exactly like the SE Electronics Titan. What's the chance the same exact body, at least that one, would be made by different chinese companies? Yes, SE Electronics has been pushing the "fact" they they make their own mics and no one makes for them and they make for no one. Not to dis SE..........but it is curious. In any case, I'm still interested in the CADs! I don't care if they're made on Pluto.........
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| Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: columbia sc
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| trion 6000 acoustic and vocals I was doing some comparison testing on A Chandler germanium pre and the new La Chapell mic pre's for some reviews.Warren at Front End Audio had given me the CAD Trion 6000 for evaluation a while back and I'm finally able to get around to it.I used a Neumann KM100 and a U87 on the acoustic then tried the trion 6000.While the trion didn't sound quite as good as the Neumanns it did hold it's own better than expected.I was using two incredible sounding pre's though.The La Chapell sounds huge and very articulate and I'm sure that evryone has heard about how incredible performance of the Chandlers. As far as using the mic with these pre's,it mic sounded good across the spectrum.It didn't exibit the spiked high end response of most 250.00 condensers.The mids weren't as sweet as the u87 but considering it's price range it's an incredible value.I'm putting togther a few sound clips and I'll get together with Warren at Front End next week and see about posting them.If anyones interested in a mic in this price range for acoustic guitar and vocals it's a definite contender. J |
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| Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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Warhead is my real nickname... UK SUBS? Are we talking sandwiches or destroyer ships? War ![]() EDIT: Holy %@^#, Jay you were posting at the exact same moment! Glad you're digging the Trion... War
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| Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right there where the husky's go
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| long and mcquade has the trions available in canada |