What if this new M-Audio supports PT M-Powered? 18 digital I/O at 96kHz - Page 4

lozion · 4th October 2006, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozion

Hey War, thanks for taking the time. Incidently, I posted this on the DUC in the hope of getting an answer str8 from the horse's mouth...
Lets see if CS stands for "customer support" or "cannot say"...

http://duc.digidesign.com/showflat.p...part=1#1050919

Cheers,

Well, no luck in getting an answer from Digi...
Now, with AES-Digidays this week, maybe we will finally get a clear answer on this...

thermos · 5th October 2006, 12:47 AM

I've been calling retailers and trying to get them to call digi about M powered compatibility, but no answer.....

Lunatic · 5th October 2006, 03:18 AM

For what it's worth, I sent an e-mail directly to M-Audio sales asking point blank if the PFLB was going to be M-Powered compatible. I explained the confusion surrounding the product page on the M-Audio website for the PFLB and how it *used* to feature M-Powered information. I was responded to by Greg St. Peter in the sales department. His response was this,

"...I can assure (you) that it (PFLB) will be compatible with PTMP. The latest ETA is early Oct. Thank you for your patience and interest in M-audio."

Anyway, I know he's a sales guy and is suppoed to say such things but I saved the e-mail and placed a pre-order. We'll see...

If anyone would like to read the entire e-mail correspondance shoot an e-mail to brad(AT)evergroove(DOT)com and I'll forward it to you.

For us, I hope I never really have to use it since we have a RADAR. However for those clients that require a ProTools session this should allow us to track straight into PTMP using the RADARs converters

-Brad

lozion · 5th October 2006, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatic

For what it's worth, I sent an e-mail directly to M-Audio sales asking point blank if the PFLB was going to be M-Powered compatible. I explained the confusion surrounding the product page on the M-Audio website for the PFLB and how it *used* to feature M-Powered information. I was responded to by Greg St. Peter in the sales department. His response was this,

"...I can assure (you) that it (PFLB) will be compatible with PTMP. The latest ETA is early Oct. Thank you for your patience and interest in M-audio."

Anyway, I know he's a sales guy and is suppoed to say such things but I saved the e-mail and placed a pre-order. We'll see...

If anyone would like to read the entire e-mail correspondance shoot an e-mail to brad(AT)evergroove(DOT)com and I'll forward it to you.

For us, I hope I never really have to use it since we have a RADAR. However for those clients that require a ProTools session this should allow us to track straight into PTMP using the RADARs converters

-Brad

Very interesting. Any more info? I suppose this means a new version of PTMP, possibly announced during Digiworld...
Will it allow 18 i/o at 96khz or only 44/48?

Thanks,

PS: Any word about a LE/MP 7.2 version with VCA and all the new features that lucky HD owners get to play with?

Lunatic · 5th October 2006, 12:35 PM

I guess I should clarify that I really don't have that much more information except that he told me, "Brad, the product is not shipping at this time." which we all know. The only product I asked about is the PFLB and it's compatibility with PTMP.

-Brad

jyc · 5th October 2006, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozion

Very interesting. Any more info? I suppose this means a new version of PTMP, possibly announced during Digiworld...
Will it allow 18 i/o at 96khz or only 44/48?

Thanks,

PS: Any word about a LE/MP 7.2 version with VCA and all the new features that lucky HD owners get to play with?

ADC!!!!!!!!!!

lozion · 7th October 2006, 08:41 AM

Here is a reply from poster Neesley over at the DUC:

"Just spoke with M-Audio and they said quantity production of FW Lightbrige is underway and general availability is expected by the end of October. Works with ProTools M-Powered for 18 channels."

For what its worth...

hgen · 7th October 2006, 08:45 AM

So if I buy a Lynx Aurora 8 I will have 8 simultaneous in/out at 48K? Is that correct? Imagine that!! Thats better than HD!!

lozion · 8th October 2006, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warhead

PT LE and M-Powered are still limited to 18 i/o hardware period. The toolkit does NOT expand this capability, only total available track count. This was confirmed today by my rep.

It is still going to be M-Powered compatible according to my guy.

We are still waiting for stock, many of you are at the top of the list.

War

Hey War, I was checking your site to see what could be a good match for the Lightbridge for live recording, and come up on the Creamware A16 Ultra.
Would this work well with the M-Audio piece? Can it work standalone or is it propriatery? Its a good, small footprint, way of getting 16 I/O for Ptools, waddya think?

Thanks,

PS: I see a few shops showing the LB, but there isnt even a driver yet over at m-audio.com...

StrykeBack · 14th October 2006, 06:47 AM

as far as the IO is concerned it better atleast be an updated 18 ins and outs with it being 96k for those 18 instead of only allowing 48k to be able to use all 18 at once. I hate that!

I'm looking at getting a lynx aurora 16 and i've got the 002R now so this would be a great little box and its only400 bucks....

To the guy crying about the music production kit...yeah it sucks that we have to pay extra for all the little extras which should be included (i was a cubase sx user for years but pt le gets me in and out of the studios and working at home without even really thinking about anything mroe then not forgetting the firewire drive). But your getting more then just the extra tracks. But also as far as tracks people don't realize, instead of stereo tracks taking up 2 in the track count, if you got the MP addon it turns into 1, 48 stereo tracks max. or mix and match as you will. very nice. And the convolution reverb and the new hybrid synth are worth the price i paid as well as having multi track beat detective.

That and if you know what your doing u can haggle some decent prices, I think i paid around 350 for my music production bundle. Good deal i think

dlmorley · 14th October 2006, 08:37 AM

This seems like a great product for some people.
I have a Fostex D2424LV and am using a motu 2408 to get into my mac, but with this being firewire it opens the system up to be portable and work on my iBook or iMac. As my G4 is long in the tooth, this is good! It also means 96khz is possible for me.
It also leaves an extra ADAT port over for maybe some serious conversion at some point.
If it works, I think I'll grab it. As for M-Powered, well it would be nice, but Logic will do me fine ;)

I'm happy...

Lunatic · 14th October 2006, 02:41 PM

I *just* received my PFLB and PTMP yesterday via FedEx. The very first test I'm gonna do is see if PTMP starts and recognizes the PFLB. The second test involves getting my RADAR TDIF outputs format converted to ADAT and sent into the PFLB. That one I may not get to very quickly. We have a session in a week and a few other things to do to get ready like building gobos

I'll keep you guys posted.

-Brad

indie · 14th October 2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatic

I *just* received my PFLB and PTMP yesterday via FedEx. The very first test I'm gonna do is see if PTMP starts and recognizes the PFLB. The second test involves getting my RADAR TDIF outputs format converted to ADAT and sent into the PFLB. That one I may not get to very quickly. We have a session in a week and a few other things to do to get ready like building gobos

I'll keep you guys posted.

-Brad

Awesome...I'm looking forward to this, since you're in the same situation as me with wanting to use the Radar Converters.

Lunatic · 16th October 2006, 03:54 AM

An update...

I installed the PFLB and PTMP 7.1. PT did not recognize the PFLB. Cubase recognized it with no problems. Not good

I sent a reply e-mail to the guy at M-Audio who assured me they would be compatible.

Let's see what happens. Perhaps there is a 'patch' or an 'update' necessary for PT in order for them to work together.

-Brad

hgen · 16th October 2006, 06:51 AM

I think there is an update for 7.1?? Maybe that's the problem?

gm5k · 16th October 2006, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatic

An update...

I installed the PFLB and PTMP 7.1. PT did not recognize the PFLB. Cubase recognized it with no problems. Not good

I sent a reply e-mail to the guy at M-Audio who assured me they would be compatible.

Let's see what happens. Perhaps there is a 'patch' or an 'update' necessary for PT in order for them to work together.

-Brad

i think thats correct. from what i can gather they will eventually (and hopefully soon) be compatible.

thanks for the info and updates!

thermos · 16th October 2006, 07:18 AM

Hmmmmm. I don't know why it would say PT 7 compatible on the website for a few months, and then suddenly change, and then not work for M-Powered. It sound like it may just not work.

gm5k · 16th October 2006, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thermos

Hmmmmm. I don't know why it would say PT 7 compatible on the website for a few months, and then suddenly change, and then not work for M-Powered. It sound like it may just not work.

another possiblity. would be very sad...

Lunatic · 16th October 2006, 12:49 PM

Well, I bought based on the information straight from M-Audio that they would be compatible. If there has been a changed of mind/heart over at Digi/M-Audio then someone will be refunding my money

For now, though, I will wait and see what M-Audio says.

-Brad

AlexLakis · 16th October 2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatic

An update...

I installed the PFLB and PTMP 7.1. PT did not recognize the PFLB. Cubase recognized it with no problems. Not good

I sent a reply e-mail to the guy at M-Audio who assured me they would be compatible.

Let's see what happens. Perhaps there is a 'patch' or an 'update' necessary for PT in order for them to work together.

-Brad

Did you have CS10 installed? Or maybe they plan to support it with 7.3?

warhead · 16th October 2006, 05:35 PM

Response from our rep just now:

ProFire Lightbridge is not yet M-Powered compatible. They are still being tested together and it will probably be another month or so until it is officially supported.

Sorry, but this whole thing has been a bit of a roller coaster ride of info...officially the only word now is "it will be".

War

dlmorley · 16th October 2006, 07:28 PM

"It will be" sounds fine to me!
Anyway, it seems to work with other apps, so still a killer box.

gracejames · 16th October 2006, 11:04 PM

I was told at AES that PT 7.3 would be compatible with Lightbridge. jtlyk

Lunatic · 18th October 2006, 12:42 AM

It's confirmed... the PFLB is not compatible with PTMP... yet. At the moment, the rumour is that PT 7.3 will enable the PFLB compatibility.

I wonder why they cannot simply release a PT patch for PFLB users to enable PTMP compatibility.

-Brad

StrykeBack · 18th October 2006, 12:53 AM

I want to be able to use my 002R to still be in PT LE and not m powered but be able to use this box at the same time as my inputs....

like that will ever happen...thanks digi

lozion · 4th November 2006, 09:54 PM

Any reports from 1st users of the Lightbridge?
Driver issues, reliability, quality of DA, clocking, etc...?
Thanks,

jon2911 · 6th December 2006, 05:54 AM

It's official, supported in M-Powered 7.3

jjdpro · 6th December 2006, 08:50 AM

Ohh Yeah... Check this: I use a 56 Sound craft Ghost console , a alesis HD24 ,plus an adttional adat -xt..Sooooo..

Now, I can use the Profire. to convert...24 light-piped/ i/o plus another 8 from the adat...Now I can have 32 live channles into Nuendo or Pro tools M-powered.. sweettttt :) Yes...

Benmrx · 6th December 2006, 09:26 AM

WAIT!

Is there any info claiming that the Lightbridge will support the full 32 I/O to M-Powered?
Or just that it's "compatible", without any details on how much of the I/O can actually be used.

**DrDeltaM** · 6th December 2006, 11:30 AM

18 inputs at once in PT M-Powered afaik

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7th October 2006, 08:41 AM	#97
lozion Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,311	Here is a reply from poster Neesley over at the DUC: "Just spoke with M-Audio and they said quantity production of FW Lightbrige is underway and general availability is expected by the end of October. Works with ProTools M-Powered for 18 channels." For what its worth... __________________ "The secret in life is to have no fear" Fela Anikulapo Kuti My Page

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warhead Jai guru deva om Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 8,302	Response from our rep just now: ProFire Lightbridge is not yet M-Powered compatible. They are still being tested together and it will probably be another month or so until it is officially supported. Sorry, but this whole thing has been a bit of a roller coaster ride of info...officially the only word now is "it will be". War __________________ Warren Dent Email: warren (at) frontendaudio (dot) com Front End Audio Sells Gear Tuesday Testers: Hear the Gear Shootouts Product Videos on YouTube: Overviews of Gear

4th November 2006, 09:54 PM	#116
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6th December 2006, 08:50 AM	#118
jjdpro Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 291	Ohh Yeah... Check this: I use a 56 Sound craft Ghost console , a alesis HD24 ,plus an adttional adat -xt..Sooooo.. Now, I can use the Profire. to convert...24 light-piped/ i/o plus another 8 from the adat...Now I can have 32 live channles into Nuendo or Pro tools M-powered.. sweettttt :) Yes... __________________ JJD Media Productions

5th October 2006, 12:47 AM	#92
thermos Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,961	I've been calling retailers and trying to get them to call digi about M powered compatibility, but no answer.....

5th October 2006, 03:18 AM	#93
Lunatic Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 321	For what it's worth, I sent an e-mail directly to M-Audio sales asking point blank if the PFLB was going to be M-Powered compatible. I explained the confusion surrounding the product page on the M-Audio website for the PFLB and how it used to feature M-Powered information. I was responded to by Greg St. Peter in the sales department. His response was this, "...I can assure (you) that it (PFLB) will be compatible with PTMP. The latest ETA is early Oct. Thank you for your patience and interest in M-audio." Anyway, I know he's a sales guy and is suppoed to say such things but I saved the e-mail and placed a pre-order. We'll see... If anyone would like to read the entire e-mail correspondance shoot an e-mail to brad(AT)evergroove(DOT)com and I'll forward it to you. For us, I hope I never really have to use it since we have a RADAR. However for those clients that require a ProTools session this should allow us to track straight into PTMP using the RADARs converters -Brad

5th October 2006, 12:35 PM	#95
Lunatic Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 321	I guess I should clarify that I really don't have that much more information except that he told me, "Brad, the product is not shipping at this time." which we all know. The only product I asked about is the PFLB and it's compatibility with PTMP. -Brad

7th October 2006, 08:45 AM	#98
hgen Gear addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 415	So if I buy a Lynx Aurora 8 I will have 8 simultaneous in/out at 48K? Is that correct? Imagine that!! Thats better than HD!!

14th October 2006, 06:47 AM	#100
StrykeBack Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 507	as far as the IO is concerned it better atleast be an updated 18 ins and outs with it being 96k for those 18 instead of only allowing 48k to be able to use all 18 at once. I hate that! I'm looking at getting a lynx aurora 16 and i've got the 002R now so this would be a great little box and its only400 bucks.... To the guy crying about the music production kit...yeah it sucks that we have to pay extra for all the little extras which should be included (i was a cubase sx user for years but pt le gets me in and out of the studios and working at home without even really thinking about anything mroe then not forgetting the firewire drive). But your getting more then just the extra tracks. But also as far as tracks people don't realize, instead of stereo tracks taking up 2 in the track count, if you got the MP addon it turns into 1, 48 stereo tracks max. or mix and match as you will. very nice. And the convolution reverb and the new hybrid synth are worth the price i paid as well as having multi track beat detective. That and if you know what your doing u can haggle some decent prices, I think i paid around 350 for my music production bundle. Good deal i think

14th October 2006, 08:37 AM	#101
dlmorley Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,091	This seems like a great product for some people. I have a Fostex D2424LV and am using a motu 2408 to get into my mac, but with this being firewire it opens the system up to be portable and work on my iBook or iMac. As my G4 is long in the tooth, this is good! It also means 96khz is possible for me. It also leaves an extra ADAT port over for maybe some serious conversion at some point. If it works, I think I'll grab it. As for M-Powered, well it would be nice, but Logic will do me fine ;) I'm happy...

14th October 2006, 02:41 PM	#102
Lunatic Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 321	I just received my PFLB and PTMP yesterday via FedEx. The very first test I'm gonna do is see if PTMP starts and recognizes the PFLB. The second test involves getting my RADAR TDIF outputs format converted to ADAT and sent into the PFLB. That one I may not get to very quickly. We have a session in a week and a few other things to do to get ready like building gobos I'll keep you guys posted. -Brad

16th October 2006, 03:54 AM	#104
Lunatic Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 321	An update... I installed the PFLB and PTMP 7.1. PT did not recognize the PFLB. Cubase recognized it with no problems. Not good I sent a reply e-mail to the guy at M-Audio who assured me they would be compatible. Let's see what happens. Perhaps there is a 'patch' or an 'update' necessary for PT in order for them to work together. -Brad

16th October 2006, 06:51 AM	#105
hgen Gear addict Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 415	I think there is an update for 7.1?? Maybe that's the problem?

16th October 2006, 07:18 AM	#107
thermos Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,961	Hmmmmm. I don't know why it would say PT 7 compatible on the website for a few months, and then suddenly change, and then not work for M-Powered. It sound like it may just not work.

16th October 2006, 12:49 PM	#109
Lunatic Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 321	Well, I bought based on the information straight from M-Audio that they would be compatible. If there has been a changed of mind/heart over at Digi/M-Audio then someone will be refunding my money For now, though, I will wait and see what M-Audio says. -Brad

16th October 2006, 07:28 PM	#112
dlmorley Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,091	"It will be" sounds fine to me! Anyway, it seems to work with other apps, so still a killer box.

16th October 2006, 11:04 PM	#113
gracejames Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 278	I was told at AES that PT 7.3 would be compatible with Lightbridge. jtlyk

18th October 2006, 12:42 AM	#114
Lunatic Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 321	It's confirmed... the PFLB is not compatible with PTMP... yet. At the moment, the rumour is that PT 7.3 will enable the PFLB compatibility. I wonder why they cannot simply release a PT patch for PFLB users to enable PTMP compatibility. -Brad

18th October 2006, 12:53 AM	#115
StrykeBack Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 507	I want to be able to use my 002R to still be in PT LE and not m powered but be able to use this box at the same time as my inputs.... like that will ever happen...thanks digi

6th December 2006, 05:54 AM	#117
jon2911 Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 121	It's official, supported in M-Powered 7.3

6th December 2006, 09:26 AM	#119
Benmrx Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,693	WAIT! Is there any info claiming that the Lightbridge will support the full 32 I/O to M-Powered? Or just that it's "compatible", without any details on how much of the I/O can actually be used. __________________ http://myspace.com/mysteriousredx www.mysteriousredx.com

6th December 2006, 11:30 AM	#120
DrDeltaM Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 3,623	18 inputs at once in PT M-Powered afaik __________________ Mathijs Indesteege aka Mathew Lane mixing - mastering - audio restoration - plugins http://www.mathewlane.com DrMS. Focus on your stereo field. DrMS spatial processor RTAS/AU/VST plugin » Digital Audio Product Support Joystick Audio - Benelux High End Distributor http://www.joystick.be