What if this new M-Audio supports PT M-Powered? 18 digital I/O at 96kHz

[santo]

Will Pro Tools LE see the lighbridge individual inputs? In other words will this work as an add on to Pro Tools LE system?

Santo

[thermos]

Don't take it away! War, is it still planned to operate with M-powered?

[Rufuss Sewell]

This Sweetwater ad says it's compatible?!?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProFireLB/

[Coyoteous]

Originally Posted by Rufuss Sewell

This Sweetwater ad says it's compatible?!?

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ProFireLB/

I think the M-Audio site *used* to say that, as well.

Why would they remove compatability information?

Have you seen "The Forgotten"?

[Rufuss Sewell]

This article:

http://www.osxrecording.com/Article464.html

Says this:

The ProFire Lightbridge is expected to ship in August and carries an MSRP of $499.95 USD. It is not yet compatible with Pro Tools LE or Pro Tools M-Powered. For more info visit M-Audio

Which seems to imply that it may be compatible in the future. This is kind of bugging me because I would really like to buy an M-Powered system based on this interface and use my Rosettas. I'm planning on selling my Pro Tools HD/G5 system and switching to a MacBook Pro. I mostly use Logic so this would be the perfect solution so I can use the same setup for both.

[stag]

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?...51&itemid=4865
there you got it, boys. 48 tracks at 96k inside LE and then some goodies more.

[Coyoteous]

Originally Posted by Rufuss Sewell

This article:

http://www.osxrecording.com/Article464.html

Says this:

The ProFire Lightbridge is expected to ship in August and carries an MSRP of $499.95 USD. It is not yet compatible with Pro Tools LE or Pro Tools M-Powered. For more info visit M-Audio

Which seems to imply that it may be compatible in the future. This is kind of bugging me because I would really like to buy an M-Powered system based on this interface and use my Rosettas. I'm planning on selling my Pro Tools HD/G5 system and switching to a MacBook Pro. I mostly use Logic so this would be the perfect solution so I can use the same setup for both.

From a historical point of view, we can assume the PFLB would never be compatible with LE (Mboxen and Digi 00X only), which calls into question the general integrity of the article for me. If you go way back in this thread, I think PTMP compatability was stated with a caveat about I/O limitations (18x18, IIR), but that's where you'd be S/MUX'ing at 96, anyway (with 2x2 from S/PDIF).

The way I read this, that's exactly what digi doesn't want you to do (sell your HD rig, that is). It looks like a corporate level "oops." It's like, "stop the press, if we do that, for $650 (PFLB+PTMP) or $1150 (PFLB+PTMP+MPT), people can use whatever kind of AD/DA they want for *all* the channels - even the good stuff!" For another $400 per 8 I/O, you can get a S/MUX capable Alesis AI-4 for AES/EBU connectivity.

I do hope I'm wrong, though. Killer studio, Rufuss! That Daking looks sweet!!

[Rufuss Sewell]

Yeah, I hope you're wrong too. Sheeesh.

Thanks for the compliments by the way!

[lozion]

We need War's insider info...

[AdamJay]

audiomidi.com and zzounds.com are still reporting PT MP compatibility (@ 18 i/o max).
who knows how long that will last.


who's got the scoop? I need a yay or nay on selling the Digi 002R

[warhead]

I just submitted these questions for clarification.

War

[stag]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

audiomidi.com and zzounds.com are still reporting PT MP compatibility (@ 18 i/o max).
who knows how long that will last.


who's got the scoop? I need a yay or nay on selling the Digi 002R

Man, click this link and read on http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?...51&itemid=4865 You pay extra buck, they give you 48 tracks inside LE + some "must have" plugs.

[AdamJay]

Originally Posted by stag

Man, click this link and read on http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?...51&itemid=4865 You pay extra buck, they give you 48 tracks inside LE + some "must have" plugs.

why the hell do you keep bringing up the Music Production Toolkit?

there is a big difference, my friend, between the number of tracks INSIDE Pro Tools, and how many inputs and outputs one can simultaneously use @ 96khz, or with superior converters.

read that again - TRACKS are different than INPUTS and OUTPUTS.

different.

dif-fer-ent [dif-er-uhnt, dif-ruhnt]
–adjective
1. not alike in character or quality; differing; dissimilar: The two are different.
2. not identical; separate or distinct: three different answers.
3. various; several: Different people told me the same story.
4. not ordinary; unusual.



I can get by just fine with 24-32 mono tracks. I do not need the Toolkit.
What i need is to be able to record upwards of 16 tracks @ 96khz from my Lynx Aurora 16 and Metric Halo 2882's . The Music Production Toolkit is software, and it does not give me those hardware capabilities.
My Digi 002R does not give me those capabilities, i can only do up to 10 ins/outs @ 96khz.
The Profire Lightbridge gives me what i want, so long as its PT MP Compatible.

[Snarf]

Originally Posted by jjdpro

Okay, Raal you're on...I say :

-No more M-boxes and no more development...

-No more development for the 002...

A little off topic, but...
Mbox2Pro... ;)

[lozion]

ROTFLMAO

[stag]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

why the hell do you keep bringing up the Music Production Toolkit?

there is a big difference, my friend, between the number of tracks INSIDE Pro Tools, and how many inputs and outputs one can simultaneously use @ 96khz, or with superior converters.

read that again - TRACKS are different than INPUTS and OUTPUTS.

different.

dif-fer-ent [dif-er-uhnt, dif-ruhnt]
–adjective
1. not alike in character or quality; differing; dissimilar: The two are different.
2. not identical; separate or distinct: three different answers.
3. various; several: Different people told me the same story.
4. not ordinary; unusual.

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I can get by just fine with 24-32 mono tracks. I do not need the Toolkit.
What i need is to be able to record upwards of 16 tracks @ 96khz from my Lynx Aurora 16 and Metric Halo 2882's . The Music Production Toolkit is software, and it does not give me those hardware capabilities.
My Digi 002R does not give me those capabilities, i can only do up to 10 ins/outs @ 96khz.
The Profire Lightbridge gives me what i want, so long as its PT MP Compatible.

I´m dumb allrigth, but i don´t use PT.

[AdamJay]

Originally Posted by stag - before he edited his post

I´m dumb allrigth, but not that dumb to be that aquainted with PT.
Well then ligth a candle and pray or buy a proper app and move on.

[drmad69]

I just want to know if we can use more than one at a time with asio, so, 64 at a time.

Then again, lets say you HAVE TDM, can you use this as addition I/O? one would say yes, all things being equal, that is the way the other m-audio interfaces work isn't it?

[stag]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

Attachment 24267

mmm, mmm, okay, okay.

IMO the edited post come out better, not so protuberant, more subtle and almost ironic.

Thanks for letting it shine.

Bye :)

[Rufuss Sewell]

So anywayzzzz... about the M-Powered thing....

Yes it's compatible? I buy it.

No it's not compatible? I don't buy it.

Seems pretty crappy to have lots of retailers saying it's compatible when it's really not.

[lildrummerboy70]

Originally Posted by drmad69

I just want to know if we can use more than one at a time with asio, so, 64 at a time.

Then again, lets say you HAVE TDM, can you use this as addition I/O? one would say yes, all things being equal, that is the way the other m-audio interfaces work isn't it?

I have an M-Audio FW1814 and a Nuendo 8 i/o (RME converters...yeah baby). I know for a fact that you cannot use multiple M-Audio interfaces simultaneously. I wanted to try to do that when I first bought the 1814 (I know you can do it with 828 mk2s, for example). Kind of sucks but not really, because after I used the 1814's converters for a while I knew I needed to get an ADAT something for better converters.

I absolutely second the statement made earlier about the 1814 not being simultaneous 18 inputs and 14 outputs. I felt lied to after assuming that a unit called the 1814 would ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO LIVE UP TO IT'S NAME. Call me crazy.

[quincyg]

perfect for me. i use logic with digital board and fireface 800. i also use pro tools mpowered for occasional stuff. been forced to use a maudio 1814. now i can link my converters directly to pt with 16 channels. nice.

[quincyg]

and i agree... digidesign. the native take over has begun.

[warhead]

PT LE and M-Powered are still limited to 18 i/o hardware period. The toolkit does NOT expand this capability, only total available track count. This was confirmed today by my rep.

It is still going to be M-Powered compatible according to my guy.

We are still waiting for stock, many of you are at the top of the list.

War

[Duardo]

Then again, lets say you HAVE TDM, can you use this as addition I/O? one would say yes, all things being equal, that is the way the other m-audio interfaces work isn't it?

No, unfortunately that's not the way other M-Audio interfaces work...you can only add I/O to TDM systems by adding TDM interfacess (or other converters that can trick Pro Tools into thinking it sees one of its own, such as the Apogee, Prism and Lynx boxes out there that have TDM expansion cards available...but nothing M-Audio).

As I understand it the interface will be M-Powered compatible, but it may not be immediately upon its release...but that's gone through several layers of people who may or may not know what they're talking about (so why not add on one more?).

-Duardo

[hgen]

Originally Posted by warhead

PT LE and M-Powered are still limited to 18 i/o hardware period. The toolkit does NOT expand this capability, only total available track count. This was confirmed today by my rep.

It is still going to be M-Powered compatible according to my guy.

We are still waiting for stock, many of you are at the top of the list.

War

At the m-audio website, every protools compatible device has a big PT compatible logo on it and its also in the blurb. Not so for the Profire atm!!

Also, if you buy the Music Production Bundle from digi you get extra tracks, ie 48 tracks i think? I can't believe that they didn't just give that to the customer anyway, fricken stingy b astards, I absolutely hate digi. It's taken them this long just to give an adequate eq and comp with PT 7. You also have to pay them for the privelege of opening mp3's.

They are disgusting and dispicable ppl imo!!

[kclisby]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

why the hell do you keep bringing up the Music Production Toolkit?

there is a big difference, my friend, between the number of tracks INSIDE Pro Tools, and how many inputs and outputs one can simultaneously use @ 96khz, or with superior converters.

read that again - TRACKS are different than INPUTS and OUTPUTS.

different.

dif-fer-ent [dif-er-uhnt, dif-ruhnt]
–adjective
1. not alike in character or quality; differing; dissimilar: The two are different.
2. not identical; separate or distinct: three different answers.
3. various; several: Different people told me the same story.
4. not ordinary; unusual.

Attachment 24261

I can get by just fine with 24-32 mono tracks. I do not need the Toolkit.
What i need is to be able to record upwards of 16 tracks @ 96khz from my Lynx Aurora 16 and Metric Halo 2882's . The Music Production Toolkit is software, and it does not give me those hardware capabilities.
My Digi 002R does not give me those capabilities, i can only do up to 10 ins/outs @ 96khz.
The Profire Lightbridge gives me what i want, so long as its PT MP Compatible.

Priceless...............

[hgen]

I'm talking about tracks not i/o. Is someone being anal about track count?