Intel Mac PT LE & MP Released

xqtion · 31st May 2006, 06:05 AM

It's out y'all~

Pro Tools LE & M-Powered for Intel Macs.

http://www.digidesign.com/download/711/

AdamJay · 31st May 2006, 06:07 AM

**TonyBelmont** · 31st May 2006, 06:08 AM

Wow... I figured it would be in the summer. I wonder if there is a lot of bugs.

kenn.michael · 31st May 2006, 09:57 AM

so far looks like a smooth release in the DUC forum...

thenewyear · 31st May 2006, 10:08 AM

I see it is not a Universal Binary.

I can imagine that PT is a bitch of a porting task but even still Digi always have to be a little bit awkward don't they?

Snarf · 31st May 2006, 11:40 AM

This is kinda scary. I hope they haven`t left the idea of a UNiversal Binary. I would hate it if they left the PPC platform at such an early stage. (Being left with 7.1 for 3 more years with no upgrades would totally suck)

AdamJay · 31st May 2006, 05:14 PM

my MacBook Pro 2ghz Core Duo is proving to be plenty of power for PT LE.

the only RTAS plugs i have for intel are WaveArts, which are for the most part pretty cpu lite.... except for Panorama. I've got a session loaded with about 18 assorted digirack/rtas plug-ins and i'm not even cracking 20% CPU usage. When i disable Core #2 (Chud Tools), its about 38%.

lozion · 31st May 2006, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJay

my MacBook Pro 2ghz Core Duo is proving to be plenty of power for PT LE.

the only RTAS plugs i have for intel are WaveArts, which are for the most part pretty cpu lite.... except for Panorama. I've got a session loaded with about 18 assorted digirack/rtas plug-ins and i'm not even cracking 20% CPU usage. When i disable Core #2 (Chud Tools), its about 38%.

Cool Adam,
Keep those benchmarks a comin'!
Ex: How many, bf76 or EQ3 can you run on a real session?
Thanks,

AdamJay · 1st June 2006, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozion

Cool Adam,
Keep those benchmarks a comin'!
Ex: How many, bf76 or EQ3 can you run on a real session?
Thanks,

okay.

just messing around...
i've got 20 mono tracks going. including:
10 EQ3 (4 band mono)
10 EQ3 (7 band mono, filters in)
20 BF76 (mono)
1 D-Verb (stereo)
1 WaveArts FinalPlug (stereo)
1 WaveArts MultiDynamics (stereo)

with those 43 plug-ins, at 512 samples.
CPU is about 20%.

when i add 2 more sterep D-Verbs it goes up to 25%

MacBook Pro 2ghz, 2GB RAM, 7200rpm internal HD
OS 10.4.6
Digi 002R

AdamJay · 1st June 2006, 12:27 AM

stress test.
same machine specs as above.

165 Mono EQ3 (7 band, filters in)

85% CPU and stable.

AdamJay · 1st June 2006, 12:40 AM

more realistic. digirack test:

32 mono tracks.

each with:
BF76
EQ3 7 band, filters in
Digirack Gate
Digirack Medium Delay
Digirack Limiter

thats 160 plug-ins total.

44% CPU

i love this intel core duo stuff!!!

Kestral · 1st June 2006, 02:00 AM

Uhh guys, what bit rate and khz are you running these tests on? Without these two vital pieces of information the numbers are useless

btw, anyone here try to run it at 24 bit 96khz and see how many tracks you could get?

lozion · 1st June 2006, 02:07 AM

Man, thats awesome!
Looks like the dual processing is tweaked.
This is big for laptop mixing.
Now to order a macbook...
Cheers,

AdamJay · 1st June 2006, 03:26 AM

Kestral,
sorry for leaving that info out.
24bit, 44.1khz

Lozion,
yes it seems very well tweaked for duals. Just from looking at how big an impact disabling the 2nd core does to processing.

Kestral · 1st June 2006, 03:34 AM

Thanks AdamJay!

Wow, I wonder how it would handle 24 bit 96K. Would probably be painful. Oh well, I guess I'll find out when my MacBook Pro comes in.

T_R_S · 1st June 2006, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenewyear

I see it is not a Universal Binary.

I can imagine that PT is a bitch of a porting task but even still Digi always have to be a little bit awkward don't they?

Well think about this LE is a scaled down version of TDM. They could not do that this time.

daryllh · 1st June 2006, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamJay

more realistic. digirack test:

32 mono tracks.

each with:
BF76
EQ3 7 band, filters in
Digirack Gate
Digirack Medium Delay
Digirack Limiter

thats 160 plug-ins total.

44% CPU

i love this intel core duo stuff!!!

Damn! That's really great to see.

How about a mix session with some stereo aux channels? Let us know when you get an actual mix going.

thanks!

jamie8 · 1st June 2006, 04:43 PM

to bad the waves stuff doesnt work yet.

oh well , anyone now what soft synths will work with intel?

lozion · 1st June 2006, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamie8

to bad the waves stuff doesnt work yet.

oh well , anyone now what soft synths will work with intel?

Xpand!
Hybrid

BryanGamet · 2nd June 2006, 05:38 AM

im sure ill be labeled the village idiot for this and should have done my homework but, if this pt 7 for intel is not universal binary, does that mean i can use my older plug ins for osx 10.4 or do i need intel / ub plug ins.

my understanding was that you can use any osx plug in as long as youre not in a UB platform (such as running a sequencer in rosetta or non UB app for osx)

guess my question is being answered as my oxford eq's arent loading up in pt 7.1

Dirty Halo · 2nd June 2006, 08:25 AM

So, we have to at least use an M=AUido interface, but can we then add, say an Apogee Mini-me and use that instead through the SPDIF?

Anyone try this for better A/D?

Does it run smoothly htat way?

Of course, on the road, I'll use the M-Aido for monitoring headpnies, but just stack the Mini-me on top for any outboard gear

Thoughts?

-a

kmshroom · 2nd June 2006, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

So, we have to at least use an M=AUido interface, but can we then add, say an Apogee Mini-me and use that instead through the SPDIF?

Anyone try this for better A/D?

Does it run smoothly htat way?

Of course, on the road, I'll use the M-Aido for monitoring headpnies, but just stack the Mini-me on top for any outboard gear

Thoughts?

-a

Lots of people have been doing that for quite a few years now, in several variations (002 + Apogee Rosetta 800, and substitute 002 for any Digi or M-Audio device, and the Apogee for any high-end A/D and/or D/A of your choice).

It runs quite smoothly.

I myself am using a 002 rack with Apogee Rosetta 800 (via ADAT) and Apogee Mini-Me and Mini-DAC (via S/PDIF).

phobia · 2nd June 2006, 07:03 PM

This is so great.

Anybody have the time to perform a DaveC test and a "DVerb" test as described over at the DUC?

Also, same tests on Os.X Intel and XP Bootcamp would be really interesting for all of us.

Cheers,
// J

Dirty Halo · 2nd June 2006, 07:54 PM

Are you guys all using Pro Tools LE or M-Power with these mobile rigs and the new Macintel?

Or is Logic better for mobile?

Please keep in mind htat my main studio is Pro Tools, so everything comes back to the main HD rig.

-a

Kestral · 2nd June 2006, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmshroom

Lots of people have been doing that for quite a few years now, in several variations (002 + Apogee Rosetta 800, and substitute 002 for any Digi or M-Audio device, and the Apogee for any high-end A/D and/or D/A of your choice).

It runs quite smoothly.

I myself am using a 002 rack with Apogee Rosetta 800 (via ADAT) and Apogee Mini-Me and Mini-DAC (via S/PDIF).

Yup, my current rig:

Powerbook G4
Apogee Rosetta 200
M-Audio Audiophile Firewire w/Pro Tools M-Powered

I've ordered a 15" MacBook Pro (top of the line), but it'll be awhile before I get it. I have full confidence that it will run just fine.

Benji · 3rd June 2006, 01:05 AM

I wonder how many stereo convolution reverb you could run. Adam Jay if you have TL Space (which, I guess, is the only one compatible at the moment)) could you try it for us with the default IR. Thanks. I hope plugin developpers won't be to long to make their plugins available for intel.

Ben.

toolstudio · 3rd June 2006, 11:12 AM

Does the new 7.1 PT LE also include an intel core audio driver, so I could
use the mbox2 on my macbookpro with Logic Pro ?

wolfgang

AdamJay · 3rd June 2006, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolstudio

Does the new 7.1 PT LE also include an intel core audio driver, so I could
use the mbox2 on my macbookpro with Logic Pro ?

wolfgang

yes.

lozion · 3rd June 2006, 08:42 PM

We need to get Steve Massey's plugs ported to Pt 7.1.1...

crew14 · 14th June 2006, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozion

We need to get Steve Massey's plugs ported to Pt 7.1.1...

definetly.

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xqtion Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles , USA Posts: 138	Intel Mac PT LE & MP Released It's out y'all~ Pro Tools LE & M-Powered for Intel Macs. http://www.digidesign.com/download/711/

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Snarf Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 57	This is kinda scary. I hope they haven`t left the idea of a UNiversal Binary. I would hate it if they left the PPC platform at such an early stage. (Being left with 7.1 for 3 more years with no upgrades would totally suck) __________________ Producer/Engineer www.asafstudio.com

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kenn.michael Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 265	so far looks like a smooth release in the DUC forum...

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AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,368	my MacBook Pro 2ghz Core Duo is proving to be plenty of power for PT LE. the only RTAS plugs i have for intel are WaveArts, which are for the most part pretty cpu lite.... except for Panorama. I've got a session loaded with about 18 assorted digirack/rtas plug-ins and i'm not even cracking 20% CPU usage. When i disable Core #2 (Chud Tools), its about 38%.

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AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,368	stress test. same machine specs as above. 165 Mono EQ3 (7 band, filters in) 85% CPU and stable.

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AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,368	more realistic. digirack test: 32 mono tracks. each with: BF76 EQ3 7 band, filters in Digirack Gate Digirack Medium Delay Digirack Limiter thats 160 plug-ins total. 44% CPU i love this intel core duo stuff!!!

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Kestral Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 1,516	Uhh guys, what bit rate and khz are you running these tests on? Without these two vital pieces of information the numbers are useless btw, anyone here try to run it at 24 bit 96khz and see how many tracks you could get?

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lozion Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,311	Man, thats awesome! Looks like the dual processing is tweaked. This is big for laptop mixing. Now to order a macbook... Cheers, __________________ "The secret in life is to have no fear" Fela Anikulapo Kuti My Page

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AdamJay Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,368	Kestral, sorry for leaving that info out. 24bit, 44.1khz Lozion, yes it seems very well tweaked for duals. Just from looking at how big an impact disabling the 2nd core does to processing.

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Kestral Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 1,516	Thanks AdamJay! Wow, I wonder how it would handle 24 bit 96K. Would probably be painful. Oh well, I guess I'll find out when my MacBook Pro comes in.

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Dirty Halo Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hollyweird Posts: 3,566	New Mactel PT 7 with APOGEE converters... So, we have to at least use an M=AUido interface, but can we then add, say an Apogee Mini-me and use that instead through the SPDIF? Anyone try this for better A/D? Does it run smoothly htat way? Of course, on the road, I'll use the M-Aido for monitoring headpnies, but just stack the Mini-me on top for any outboard gear Thoughts? -a

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phobia Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1	This is so great. Anybody have the time to perform a DaveC test and a "DVerb" test as described over at the DUC? Also, same tests on Os.X Intel and XP Bootcamp would be really interesting for all of us. Cheers, // J

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