Chris Lord- Alge Waves SSL Presets

pigpen · 23rd May 2006, 06:56 PM

Haven't tried them yet, but could be pretty cool!

http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=2055

T_R_S · 23rd May 2006, 07:14 PM

Now I don't need to hire CLA anymore!

**Lindell** · 23rd May 2006, 09:03 PM

aahahahahhaaa

superburtm · 23rd May 2006, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_R_S

Now I don't need to hire CLA anymore!

It might be cheaper to hire CLA

noiseflaw · 23rd May 2006, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superburtm

It might be cheaper to hire CLA

lol!

Crandall1 · 23rd May 2006, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superburtm

It might be cheaper to hire CLA

Depends. Does he come with an iLok? If he does, I'm not hiring him.

noiseflaw · 23rd May 2006, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crandall1

Depends. Does he come with an iLok? If he does, I'm not hiring him.

I heard if you hire hime for a few sessions, whenever he comes to work with a new shirt or pair of shoes or suchlike, you have to pay him an extra 'upgrade' fee. don't even ask the price when he does your session scented with expensive aftershave in an Armani shirt.

I just downloaded the pre-sets, will have some fun checking them tmmrw.

e-cue · 23rd May 2006, 11:06 PM

Hmm. It's telling me I need version 1.1, but can't find the updater on Waves site. Anyone else run into this?

I suspect none of the compression settings will be less than 10:1

Angus202 · 23rd May 2006, 11:13 PM

I'm currently demoing out the URS S-EQ & 1980 Comp along with the Waves SSL package (read that thread but could care less if either actually sound like an SSL; I'm more concerned with what sounds GOOD with what I do). Anyways, I tried to download the presets but was notified as a demo user I'm not allowed to?! This seems pretty silly as my WUP is current for Ren. Max and Tune, not to mention they're only settings! I'd really like to try out a few of the CLA presets in my evaluation, anyone want to scribble some of these secret settings down for me, or take a picture of the screen and send it my way? I s'pose the settings files would be called piracy by waves?
cheers. -Ryan

mixerguy · 24th May 2006, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pigpen

Haven't tried them yet, but could be pretty cool!

http://www.waves.com/content.asp?id=2055

hmmmmmm

plugins will still sound like plugins - (sucky) - no matter who did the preset.

Hype and Jive!

theblotted · 24th May 2006, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-cue

Hmm. It's telling me I need version 1.1, but can't find the updater on Waves site. Anyone else run into this?

I suspect none of the compression settings will be less than 10:1

hmm, same here. do i have to download the entire dmg and reinstall again? anybody?

LAU · 24th May 2006, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixerguy

hmmmmmm

plugins will still sound like plugins - (sucky) - no matter who did the preset.

Hype and Jive!

rock on man.....

studjo · 24th May 2006, 09:41 AM

I was going to say that some guys in Holland should start listening with their ears after that pic and that insult against mixerguy but wtf ... GO EVERYBODY USE YOUR PLUGS!

Jo

noiseflaw · 24th May 2006, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixerguy

hmmmmmm

plugins will still sound like plugins - (sucky) - no matter who did the preset.

Hype and Jive!

Oohh Mixerguy your so right - do you know that because of your strong and absolute opinion and your years of seasoned experience - I feel all insecure now about my use of plug-ins now.

I wish I could be like you with your sense of self-confidence and ability. and condescending arrogant sneer.

Gosh I'd better sell my Waves SSL now because I am worried that they 'Suck' and I am deeply concerned about what people like you think.

Mwaahahahahaha - dream on Dude

I am gonna 'Suck-on' brother,

Hell Yeah.

Mind-Over-Midi · 24th May 2006, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAU

rock on man.....

Hahahahahahahahahaaha!

Mind-Over-Midi · 24th May 2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-cue

Hmm. It's telling me I need version 1.1, but can't find the updater on Waves site. Anyone else run into this?

Yeah I got the same message, went back to the downloads page and got 1.1, it is there.

The I had a brief moment to try the Bass preset on a electric bass track, and the vox preset on male vox track. Those two sound cool, a very good starting place!

LAU · 24th May 2006, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studjo

I was going to say that some guys in Holland should start listening with their ears after that pic and that insult against mixerguy but wtf ... GO EVERYBODY USE YOUR PLUGS!

Jo

plugs, hardware, whatever.....

if it sounds good, it sounds good.

and sometimes a picture says more then a thousand words.

zboy2854 · 24th May 2006, 05:56 PM

Been playing with the presets, and they are indeed very cool. Pulling up the CLA deep snare on one of my snare tracks yielded instant "Lord-Alge" sound.

Definitely some interesting settings to study, things especially EQ-wise I hadn't thought to do. Obviously these presets aren't one size fits all for any kind of source, but great jumping off points to tweak from.

muddy · 24th May 2006, 06:15 PM

it's kinda ironic he did these for waves, considering he was a house engineer for unique recording (where he recorded & mixed some of MY album) for most of the 80's, after sugar hill. unique & bobby nathan, in case you didn't know, are behind those lovely urs plugins.

ml

Schmacko · 24th May 2006, 07:20 PM

Cool, I wasn't aware of the Unique relationship.

And yeah, as zboy2854just mentioned, the SNR Deep preset made me happy. Try it on the bottom snare mic - very cool.

Overall, great starting-points for drums.

mixerguy · 25th May 2006, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noiseflaw

Oohh Mixerguy your so right - do you know that because of your strong and absolute opinion and your years of seasoned experience - I feel all insecure now about my use of plug-ins now.

I wish I could be like you with your sense of self-confidence and ability. and condescending arrogant sneer.

Gosh I'd better sell my Waves SSL now because I am worried that they 'Suck' and I am deeply concerned about what people like you think.

Mwaahahahahaha - dream on Dude

I am gonna 'Suck-on' brother,

Hell Yeah.

Heya

nice pic

hey man - to each his own.

I ws just stating my opinion. dont be so defensive.

and.....

all i can say is - some folks dont have very developed listening skills.... or perhaps havent spent much quality time with the best hardware.....

ps how many gold and platinum records do YOU have on your walls?

Firefox · 25th May 2006, 03:28 AM

mixerGuy is right
ill take my manley eq over any plug eq
ill take my distressors over any plug compressor
ill take my hi end hardware reverb over any plug reverb
what more can i say
except use your ears.

robot gigante · 25th May 2006, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAU

plugs, hardware, whatever.....

if it sounds good, it sounds good.

True!

Problem is- most plugins don't sound that good.

Reminds me of those cheezy guitar rack processors popular not so long ago... where they had famous guitarists program some of the presets.

mixerguy · 25th May 2006, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robot gigante

.......... most plugins don't sound that good.

Reminds me of those cheezy guitar rack processors popular not so long ago... where they had famous guitarists program some of the presets.

true, true true!

zboy2854 · 25th May 2006, 04:49 AM

All of the above is true, though I gotta say, having gone through the presets, they definitely give you the "Lord-Alge" sound with several of them, although I'm sure that the same settings on an actual SSL would sound even better.

IMO, the best thing about them is just seeing some of the EQ and compression choices that yield those sounds, or at least put you in the ballpark. If you then take those ideas and use them with hardware, so much the better.

If nothing else, I've found the presets to be a valuable study, much the same as when I was an assistant and studied the console settings of good engineers that I assisted for.

H-Rezz · 25th May 2006, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixerguy

hmmmmmm

plugins will still sound like plugins - (sucky) - no matter who did the preset.

Hype and Jive!

The vendetta continues ,ha ha

I vil not rest until all those evil plugins are eradicated

overdose · 25th May 2006, 05:16 AM

plugins = more flavors for the money

When you don't have much money and your dollar will buy a happy meal or one chicken nugget. What would you do?

Happy Meal... You get some fries and a toy.

mixerguy · 25th May 2006, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overdose

plugins = more flavors for the money

When you don't have much money and your dollar will buy a happy meal or one chicken nugget. What would you do?

Happy Meal... You get some fries and a toy.

I would take one bite of high quality steak..... and be satisfied.

No craptasic food for me!

mixerguy · 25th May 2006, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overdose

plugins = more flavors for the money

When you don't have much money and your dollar will buy a happy meal or one chicken nugget. What would you do?......

PS -
aint that the current American trend.... lots of cheap crap - as opposed to a small amount of really high quality stuff that ultimately satisfies you far more?

Spend some time dining in fine eateries in Europe, and you'll know what I mean.

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e-cue Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 3,884	Hmm. It's telling me I need version 1.1, but can't find the updater on Waves site. Anyone else run into this? I suspect none of the compression settings will be less than 10:1 __________________ http://www.vespacoast2coast.com

23rd May 2006, 11:13 PM	#9
Angus202 Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 41	I'm currently demoing out the URS S-EQ & 1980 Comp along with the Waves SSL package (read that thread but could care less if either actually sound like an SSL; I'm more concerned with what sounds GOOD with what I do). Anyways, I tried to download the presets but was notified as a demo user I'm not allowed to?! This seems pretty silly as my WUP is current for Ren. Max and Tune, not to mention they're only settings! I'd really like to try out a few of the CLA presets in my evaluation, anyone want to scribble some of these secret settings down for me, or take a picture of the screen and send it my way? I s'pose the settings files would be called piracy by waves? cheers. -Ryan

24th May 2006, 09:41 AM	#13
studjo Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1,900	I was going to say that some guys in Holland should start listening with their ears after that pic and that insult against mixerguy but wtf ... GO EVERYBODY USE YOUR PLUGS! Jo

24th May 2006, 05:56 PM	#18
zboy2854 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 4,941	Been playing with the presets, and they are indeed very cool. Pulling up the CLA deep snare on one of my snare tracks yielded instant "Lord-Alge" sound. Definitely some interesting settings to study, things especially EQ-wise I hadn't thought to do. Obviously these presets aren't one size fits all for any kind of source, but great jumping off points to tweak from. __________________ "Let me control the money, and I care not who makes the laws" -Mayer Rothschild "Any chairman of the Federal Reserve, is more powerful than even our president." -Ron Paul

24th May 2006, 06:15 PM	#19
muddy Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N.Y.C. Posts: 309	it's kinda ironic he did these for waves, considering he was a house engineer for unique recording (where he recorded & mixed some of MY album) for most of the 80's, after sugar hill. unique & bobby nathan, in case you didn't know, are behind those lovely urs plugins. ml __________________ "no, no, your all confused. it's not the sun that's goin' down, it's the hori-zon that's movin' up!" - firesign theatre

24th May 2006, 07:20 PM	#20
Schmacko Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 532	Cool, I wasn't aware of the Unique relationship. And yeah, as zboy2854just mentioned, the SNR Deep preset made me happy. Try it on the bottom snare mic - very cool. Overall, great starting-points for drums.

25th May 2006, 03:28 AM	#22
Firefox Gear maniac Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 215	mixerGuy is right ill take my manley eq over any plug eq ill take my distressors over any plug compressor ill take my hi end hardware reverb over any plug reverb what more can i say except use your ears.

25th May 2006, 04:49 AM	#25
zboy2854 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 4,941	All of the above is true, though I gotta say, having gone through the presets, they definitely give you the "Lord-Alge" sound with several of them, although I'm sure that the same settings on an actual SSL would sound even better. IMO, the best thing about them is just seeing some of the EQ and compression choices that yield those sounds, or at least put you in the ballpark. If you then take those ideas and use them with hardware, so much the better. If nothing else, I've found the presets to be a valuable study, much the same as when I was an assistant and studied the console settings of good engineers that I assisted for. __________________ "Let me control the money, and I care not who makes the laws" -Mayer Rothschild "Any chairman of the Federal Reserve, is more powerful than even our president." -Ron Paul

25th May 2006, 05:16 AM	#27
overdose Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 86	plugins = more flavors for the money When you don't have much money and your dollar will buy a happy meal or one chicken nugget. What would you do? Happy Meal... You get some fries and a toy.

25th May 2006, 05:48 AM	#30
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