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Old 28th January 2006, 02:32 PM   #1
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Digital Performer 5

The new DP is on its way. Several new usefull features...

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAM...rformer-5.html
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Old 28th January 2006, 03:54 PM   #2
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can't wait :) :)

especially the meter bridge... i was just complaining to myself the other day that DP's metering needs vast improvement....
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Old 28th January 2006, 06:00 PM   #3
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I still prefer Digital Performer

In terms of utility and user-interface, Digital Performer is my favorite production software. I find it to be more elegant and logical than ProTools. I haven't spent much time with Nuendo and Logic though.

I still can't ever imagine mixing in the box, though. I will always love my Manley 16x2 and I can't imagine living without analog outboard. Not even for sound, just for quality of life. For the joy of the process.

Wow, I digressed there. Anyway, I'm excited about DP5.

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Old 28th January 2006, 08:42 PM   #4
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I will always love my Manley 16x2 and I can't imagine living without analog outboard.
Well yu don't have to! If you can setup external fx busses to external devices, as you can in Nuendo, using this as an insert effect on an audio track, the audio will be sent to the corresponding audio output, processed in your hardware effect (summer/mixer) and returned via the specified audio input!!!

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Old 28th January 2006, 09:37 PM   #5
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I have to say too, that I asked at Namm about a distributed processing a la Logic, and they said they are working on it. Not for immediate release, but in the future.
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Old 30th January 2006, 04:17 PM   #6
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Any news on automatic delay compensation for outboard inserts?
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Old 31st January 2006, 03:23 AM   #7
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especially the meter bridge... i was just complaining to myself the other day that DP's metering needs vast improvement....
Yeah I'm excited about the meter bridge too, but I can't seem to find a screen shot of it anywhere- anyone seen it?
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Old 31st January 2006, 04:47 AM   #8
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Can't seem to find anything on the MOTU web page!
Where is all this info coming from?
Any other links?
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Old 20th March 2006, 08:14 PM   #9
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The new DP is on its way. Several new usefull features...

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAM...rformer-5.html
This wasnt a direct to you. I knew I should have stated that in my quote. Its just that Im sick of the disrespect from a bunch of idots telling me to read a manual regarding something that this forum was put up for? and half of them were upset that I even asked the questions. but still posted, Get it? I read the manual and read it a few times. but got nowhere. Im an engineer not a computer tech master. If i wanted to make a living with computers I would have gone to ITT tec school. Im sorry that It got us in a heap. forgive my rude jestures. I understand the block
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Old 21st March 2006, 08:56 AM   #10
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Micgiver, What is going on... ...what is the subject and what are you talking about?
...and what is the deal with DP5?
...where do you guys get all this info... nothing on the MOTU web site!
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Old 22nd March 2006, 06:00 AM   #11
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Man, I just can't wait for DP 5!!!!!
My favorite feature is feature is that now I will be able to monitor live inputs without having latency and bounce everything to disk!
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Old 29th March 2006, 08:23 AM   #12
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Any news on automatic delay compensation for outboard inserts?
yes - very good question!!!

????

and - I read that it'll cost $795. I wonder what the upgrade fee will be from 4.6?

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Old 29th March 2006, 11:24 PM   #13
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Any info links about this release?
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Old 31st March 2006, 10:04 AM   #14
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all I heard is.... soon.....
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Old 31st March 2006, 05:57 PM   #15
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Heard from one of the sales reps in Germany that it should be available in May.
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Old 31st March 2006, 06:13 PM   #16
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yes - very good question!!!

????

and - I read that it'll cost $795. I wonder what the upgrade fee will be from 4.6?

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Upgrade fee is always $149.

micgiver - I'm sorry but that was a bolt clear out of the blue. What was that in reference to?
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Old 6th April 2006, 07:37 PM   #17
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It's on the website today. The upgrade will be $195 U.S.

For me, the past several upgrades have been worth the money they were asking.
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Old 7th April 2006, 06:34 AM   #18
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It's on the website today. The upgrade will be $195 U.S.

For me, the past several upgrades have been worth the money they were asking.
I agree that past upgrades were totally worth the money, but I feel like this upgrade is more about buying soft synth plugins than it is upgrading the sequencer. I don't really need the synths, and the rest of the upgrade is considerably more modest than the past few.

Nevertheless, I was ready to upgrade to this feature set until I saw the price. I really didn't expect to pay more for this upgrade. I don't think there's that much value in the DAW enhancements. If they had supported distributed processing in this release, I would have ordered immediately without a thought to the price.
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Old 7th April 2006, 07:30 AM   #19
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I agree that past upgrades were totally worth the money, but I feel like this upgrade is more about buying soft synth plugins than it is upgrading the sequencer. I don't really need the synths, and the rest of the upgrade is considerably more modest than the past few.

Nevertheless, I was ready to upgrade to this feature set until I saw the price. I really didn't expect to pay more for this upgrade. I don't think there's that much value in the DAW enhancements. If they had supported distributed processing in this release, I would have ordered immediately without a thought to the price.
I think there are worthy enhancements besides the new soft synths. Track folders, new editorial tools, new picture scoring tools, meter bridge, a lot of good stuff. Check out the marketing info on the MOTU site to see what I'm talking about.

I ordered my upgrade last night. Word is first round of shipments will start 04/14 (end of next week).
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Old 7th April 2006, 09:02 AM   #20
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I think there are worthy enhancements besides the new soft synths. Track folders, new editorial tools, new picture scoring tools, meter bridge, a lot of good stuff.
Totally agree!
My favorite DAW is getting hotter and hotter...
even the new packaging looks burninghot ... no more of that cold blue theme!
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I agree that past upgrades were totally worth the money, but I feel like this upgrade is more about buying soft synth plugins than it is upgrading the sequencer. I don't really need the synths, and the rest of the upgrade is considerably more modest than the past few.

Nevertheless, I was ready to upgrade to this feature set until I saw the price. I really didn't expect to pay more for this upgrade. I don't think there's that much value in the DAW enhancements. If they had supported distributed processing in this release, I would have ordered immediately without a thought to the price.
Yeah I'm with you, I don't need the synths either. But also consider that MOTU has realeased non-paid upgrades within their "dot" versions that have been significant. For instance, 4.5 - loads of new features, like the Melodyne style pitch editor, etc. And if you owned ver 4, it was a free download.

You might get your distributed processing in 5.2 or something, who knows?
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...And if you owned ver 4, it was a free download.
Hmmm...am I right about that guys?
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I believe 4.5 was a paid upgrade, but the other "dots" were free.

I think the $195 price is excessive. I don't need the VIs. I have Kontakt, Kompakt, Reason and a few others. The meter bridge is cool, but for me, ot worth the extra cash. The new edit tools are cool, but come on! I'm not going to be getting it any time soon.
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Old 8th April 2006, 06:11 AM   #24
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Every upgrade version since DP4 has been worthwhile and I’m excited about v5.
There is definitely more to this upgrade than just soft synth plugins, which btw look sweet.
A lot of useful new features such as the new meter bridge great for those ITB folks.
My favorites are the new editing tools,
Live style elastic audio editing in the Waveform Editor window,
and the color-coded track folders etc.
All these useful cool features working in perfect harmony with PT.
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DP5 is officially out now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Check the web site for more info!

http://www.motu.com/
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Old 8th April 2006, 06:28 PM   #26
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Yeah I'm with you, I don't need the synths either. But also consider that MOTU has realeased non-paid upgrades within their "dot" versions that have been significant. For instance, 4.5 - loads of new features, like the Melodyne style pitch editor, etc. And if you owned ver 4, it was a free download.

You might get your distributed processing in 5.2 or something, who knows?
Good points from folks noting the free upgrades. I would have paid for 4.6 with support for multiple output channels on plugins. Of course, that had long been supported in Core Audio and shouldn't have taken so long to appear in DP, but I really needed it. Who knows what 5.x will bring.

I'm not saying that some of the new enhancements are not good. I think track folders and metering are really great workflow improvements. I'm just saying that it didn't seem like new version number and $195 worth of improvements to me. 4.5 and 4.6 together offered more improvements to the sequencer than 5.0.

All that said, I'm going to upgrade. I am a gearslut afterall.
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Old 8th April 2006, 06:29 PM   #27
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MOTU doesn't state the system requirements for DP5. i.e., does it run in OSX 10.3, or does it require 10.4?

Also, MOTU has moved to iLok for a lot of their software, and there is no information (that I could find) on whether DP5 requires iLok/Pace. I've been stung before where I upgraded/bought software only to find out after the fact that iLok was required.

I'm up for the $195 upgrade immediately--more than usual but workable considering the new features--but not if DP5 requires iLok. In that case I'll stick with DP 4.61 as long as possible. I'll be **very** unhappy if DP goes to iLok.
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Old 8th April 2006, 09:04 PM   #28
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Can anyone recommend DP as a front end to PT HD?

Am moving back to ProTools world (from DP --> Logic).

Despite improvements in MIDI in PT 7, it is still not easy to move quickly through the composition process.

Can anyone comment on DP's ability to work with PT HD? I was disappointed with the Logic--HD function. I make the assumption that any feedback would be DP4.6, unless there are beta testers of 5 out there.

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Can anyone comment on DP's ability to work with PT HD? I was disappointed with the Logic--HD function. I make the assumption that any feedback would be DP4.6, unless there are beta testers of 5 out there.
Currently running DP 4.61 as a front end to PT HD and no problems at all.
Last 3 months we have been working on this album project, almost day and night (tight deadline to meet).
No crashes at all.
System: HD3, G5 dual 2.7, loads of software instruments and plugs etc.
Since v4.5 DP has been rock solid.

DP5 is not out yet (probably 2 more weeks) but judging from the last couple of upgrades I’d assume that it would be rock solid.
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Old 8th April 2006, 11:42 PM   #30
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I've used DP 4.61 as a front end for the Digi 002 PT/LE and it worked fine, no problems. My recording engineer works with a guy who uses DP as the front end for a large HD setup, and has commented that it works well.
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