Roger Nichol's New Software announced at NAMM

blackcatdigi · 27th January 2006, 08:16 PM

I've been waiting to see if anyone noticed this...

I don't even know what to think.

Be sure to check out the Auto-Mix plug...

click

AnalogBob · 27th January 2006, 08:32 PM

Probably the ugliest plugins I've ever seen even shareware looks better.but hey if they work... Auto mix.....is this the famous mixdown button?????

blackcatdigi · 27th January 2006, 08:37 PM

Hope this is okay to do; Copied from site:

Quote:

Auto-Mix: is a technology that RND has been working on for ten years that will provide you with a VERY GOOD ruff mix of your project automatically.

Auto-Mix learns the characteristics of each track you have recorded and sets the levels, panning, EQ and compression automatically. Auto-Mix remembers how you like your mix by adjustments that you make to the results provided by Auto-Mix.

First you teach Auto-Mix how you like to name your tracks. Using pull-down menus you let Auto-Mix know that “LD-GTR” is the “Lead Electric Guitar”, and “STAR” is the “Lead Vocal-Female”. Auto-Mix then plays the mix a few times and learns the characteristics of each track. The levels adjust, the vocals ride, and the EQs change to make everything work together. If there is a track type that Auto-Mix does not recognize, then it will ask you questions about that track before Auto-Mix can continue.

Auto-Mix requires RND plug-ins that communicate with each other and with Auto-Mix. If you already own RND plug-ins there is an upgrade path to the Auto-Mix Bundle.

Auto-Mix On-Line: Is an optional support path for Auto-Mix users. automatically will connect your mix on-line to RND support staff who will hear your mix, see the settings of all your plug-ins, and have control over your DAW. You explain the trouble you are having and the support staff can actually adjust your plug-ins and change other parameters in your mix in real-time while you are listening to your mix. When your support connection is finished, the new parameters are stored in your mix and you can continue on your own.

No other system provides this level of support. No other plug-in system has Auto-Mix.

adrianex · 27th January 2006, 08:53 PM

WTF!!!! *&%$#@.... Well, there is a software to replace pretty much any musician nowdays, it was about time to get engineers out of the equation....

MusicKat · 27th January 2006, 09:06 PM

This is a joke . . . right?

silverdisk · 27th January 2006, 11:17 PM

Im waiting for the 'Auto-Listener' to be released,

" Tired of those lifeless auto timing, auto tuned, auto equalized over compressed and clipped tracks? We have the technology from artificial intelligence technology robots that will listen to these troublesome tracks for us. They are automatically tuned to pick up on perfect mixes and songs and tell you whats good and whats not and save you all the valuable time and annoyance of actually having to listen to music. Isn't it time we let technology do the work for our ears?.. step out ot the stone ages and into Auto-Listener"

Jk

kevinc · 27th January 2006, 11:37 PM

Good lord....

blackcatdigi · 28th January 2006, 05:26 PM

No one else has any thoughts on this?

PRuthenburg · 28th January 2006, 05:51 PM

I think this is a joke.

Pete

AlphaDingo · 28th January 2006, 06:07 PM

I'm sure it isn't.

blackcatdigi · 28th January 2006, 06:09 PM

Yes, it may be.

If it is, they've duped Mix's parent company Prism Business Media.
I received a newsletter from them with an announcement of RNDigital products and a link to the website. Here it is:

Quote:

ROGER NICHOLS DIGITAL BITCHIN-IZER
Bitchin-Izer is a mixdown/mastering plug-in for all platforms, developed by Grammy Award--winning, sound engineering legend Roger Nichols. Price: $999. NAMM booth: #1113. www.rndigital.com.

kevinc · 28th January 2006, 06:50 PM

Looking at the site I`d say it`s a joke and a funny one.

catfish11 · 28th January 2006, 11:27 PM

i mean, don't u sort of already have a ruff mix,
when u get done w tracking,
that's too weird, maybe they should stop all development and everyone who develops gets together and develop auto-brain, for the braindead, cuz it would seem there is a big market for that plug.

i think this is very funny, they will mix it for u

SoundEng1 · 28th January 2006, 11:46 PM

At First i Thought it was a joke but.....here it is!

http://www.rndigital.com/index.html

These are the weirdest things ive ever seen in a plugin!

catfish11 · 29th January 2006, 07:52 AM

if these are real. . . . . .

i mean used toilet paper looks better than those plugs

Diablo · 29th January 2006, 08:21 AM

I hope it's real!

That's a great idea. If there's one thing I hate, it making quickie mixes for the client after tracking for 15 straight hours. I'm burnt out and totally sick from hearing the same stupid riff played 1000 times. I just wanna get the hell out of there. But no... the client has to have a mix to take home and listen to in the car, and they have already used up more than their time. I just want to strangle his lame ass out-of-tune neck, but I always give in and make a rough mix for them....

Obviously, Roger has been there done that, and we are looking at the results of his pain.

Einstein · 29th January 2006, 09:01 AM

More than just a compressor, the Level-izer actually rides the levels the same way you do manually...............

The Level-izer learns the dynamic and spectral content of the track, (such as a vocal) and actually rides the levels and inserts automation data. You can select how much or how little you want to ride and constrict the dynamics, and how much you want to ride up the end of a vocal line.

I've had that Idea forever. I actually suggested this to a couple plug-in designers. I really need to learn to program these things, haha.

Einstein · 29th January 2006, 09:05 AM

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...281#post509281

Yep, but they do look pretty fake. Where's the auto-mic-placer and auto-level setter? Can it get any more awesome?

I had this other idea too. If there was (or maybe there is) a plug that would analyze the curve of one track and add it to another for faster mastering EQ on album projects. Once you get one, get the others in the ballpark, no?

Faderjockey · 29th January 2006, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MusicKat

This is a joke . . . right?

I'm thinking....I hope so....Now people are going to let some jerk-off over the internet tweak thier mix...

OMG!

Vermeer · 29th January 2006, 01:06 PM

Pure Genius!

Having Roger Nichols behind this is like getting Dr. Dre behind EMINEM: instant protection from the audio vigilantes. You know, the guys that are supposed to tell us what sounds good and what doesn't and with whom you can't argue. What are they going to say? This guy doesn't know what he is doing? That the guy doesn't know about analogue gear? Nichols was doing this stuff before most of us were born!

I think it's about time someone does attempt something like that. The first thing you learn about mixing is to undestand that every instrument has its own frequency and that you have to EQ other instruments in orther for that instrument to come forward. Then, there's the idea of using delay and reverb to add depth to individual or grouped instruments. Then, there's repeating the bass note frequencies higher up so that they translate better in car radios and iPods. And the list goes on and on...

There is NO reasons these things could not be automated. As far as I'm concerned, if you end up doing the same basic things on every track you work with, these things should be automated.

I'd buy

kevinc · 29th January 2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Einstein

More than just a compressor, the Level-izer actually rides the levels the same way you do manually...............

The Level-izer learns the dynamic and spectral content of the track, (such as a vocal) and actually rides the levels and inserts automation data. You can select how much or how little you want to ride and constrict the dynamics, and how much you want to ride up the end of a vocal line.

I've had that Idea forever. I actually suggested this to a couple plug-in designers. I really need to learn to program these things, haha.

I had the idea for something like this as well. Seems like it should be possible to do it these days. Something that literally just turns the volume up and down as opposed to doing what a compressor does. On top of that it`d be cool if you could adjust it so it wasn`t so rigid in keeping everything to an exact decibal level because that tends to sound very unnatural very quick. Maybe just bring the loud stuff down a couple db and the quiet stuff up. Could be neat.

I still think these plugs have to be a joke though and Roger seems to have the type of personality to go through that amount of effort to get a laugh.

If they are real I think the graphics would be kind of cool actually instead of the typical plug that has way better graphics than sound. Who gives a shit what a plug looks like on a computer screen.

TinderArts · 31st January 2006, 06:59 AM

Did RN hire one of the Funk Logic guys???

joeq · 31st January 2006, 08:42 AM

I love it. OK its not yock yock funny, like Virtual Studio Visitor but it's funny

Quote:

News Flash! Roger Nichols Digital officially becomes a Digidesign Plug-in Developer. TDM plug-in versions will be in development as soon as our programmers figure out how to steam open the FedEx package containing the Developer Tools.

they had better get crackin' since the plugs are due "2nd Quarter 2006"

2nd quarter, what's that... around April 1st?

Einstein · 31st January 2006, 09:51 AM

Hahahaha, I forgot all about that site.....

"Reproduces the coveted early-to-mid-1990's ADAT sound....."

Rad! I feel a corperate merger comming on here.

robot gigante · 31st January 2006, 06:46 PM

Quote:

You can’t tell when you hear a record that used Wendel because it sounds and feels like a real drummer, not a machine.

(from site)

Must be a joke!

thermos · 1st February 2006, 03:57 AM

Not a joke. Hes funny though, so it comes off like a joke. I talked to him a little at Namm. Sounds like its a lot of concepts he was using during the Steely Dan days. The booth was the most visually assaulting thing at the Namm show, I assure you. But the plugs sound kind of interesting.

Sounds Great · 1st February 2006, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverdisk

Im waiting for the 'Auto-Listener' to be released,

Hahahaha!

Best laugh all night.

Sounds Great · 1st February 2006, 05:17 AM

Quote:

News Flash! Roger will be writing for Sound on Sound Magazine. The column you loved for 13 years will be back soon.

News Flash! Roger Nichols Digital officially becomes a Digidesign Plug-in Developer. TDM plug-in versions will be in development as soon as our programmers figure out how to steam open the FedEx package containing the Developer Tools.

News Flash! Roger Nichols Digital is officially an Apple Developer.

News Flash! Roger Nichols on cover of December 2005 ProSound Japan!

Holly crap! That's a lot of news flashes.

LAU · 1st February 2006, 07:06 PM

http://www.gogma.com/diverse/vocsteady/

Duardo · 1st February 2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

News Flash! Roger will be writing for Sound on Sound Magazine. The column you loved for 13 years will be back soon.

I didn't realize Stephen St Croix's column had ever left...

-Duardo

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27th January 2006, 09:06 PM	#5
MusicKat Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville / Canada Posts: 79	Auto-Mix This is a joke . . . right?

27th January 2006, 11:37 PM	#7
kevinc Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Beantown Posts: 2,464	Good lord.... __________________ - Kev

28th January 2006, 05:26 PM	#8
blackcatdigi Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: upstate, sc Posts: 1,450	No one else has any thoughts on this? __________________ Sincerely, Casey SC Digital Services Bob Olhsson wrote on 17th September 2002, 12:56 PM: "Music is being used to sort consumers rather than to entertain people."

28th January 2006, 06:50 PM	#12
kevinc Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Beantown Posts: 2,464	Looking at the site I`d say it`s a joke and a funny one. __________________ - Kev

27th January 2006, 08:16 PM	#1
blackcatdigi Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: upstate, sc Posts: 1,450	Roger Nichol's New Software announced at NAMM I've been waiting to see if anyone noticed this... I don't even know what to think. Be sure to check out the Auto-Mix plug... click __________________ Sincerely, Casey SC Digital Services Bob Olhsson wrote on 17th September 2002, 12:56 PM: "Music is being used to sort consumers rather than to entertain people."

27th January 2006, 08:32 PM	#2
AnalogBob Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 480	Probably the ugliest plugins I've ever seen even shareware looks better.but hey if they work... Auto mix.....is this the famous mixdown button?????

27th January 2006, 08:53 PM	#4
adrianex Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 698	WTF!!!! *&%$#@.... Well, there is a software to replace pretty much any musician nowdays, it was about time to get engineers out of the equation....

27th January 2006, 11:17 PM	#6
silverdisk Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 162	Im waiting for the 'Auto-Listener' to be released, " Tired of those lifeless auto timing, auto tuned, auto equalized over compressed and clipped tracks? We have the technology from artificial intelligence technology robots that will listen to these troublesome tracks for us. They are automatically tuned to pick up on perfect mixes and songs and tell you whats good and whats not and save you all the valuable time and annoyance of actually having to listen to music. Isn't it time we let technology do the work for our ears?.. step out ot the stone ages and into Auto-Listener" Jk

28th January 2006, 05:51 PM	#9
PRuthenburg Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Louis,Mo. Posts: 208	I think this is a joke. Pete

28th January 2006, 06:07 PM	#10
AlphaDingo Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 478	I'm sure it isn't.

28th January 2006, 11:27 PM	#13
catfish11 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: maui, hi. USA Posts: 674	i mean, don't u sort of already have a ruff mix, when u get done w tracking, that's too weird, maybe they should stop all development and everyone who develops gets together and develop auto-brain, for the braindead, cuz it would seem there is a big market for that plug. i think this is very funny, they will mix it for u __________________ "Your petty insults are of no consequence." --Jp22

28th January 2006, 11:46 PM	#14
SoundEng1 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Chicago "The Windy City" Posts: 672	At First i Thought it was a joke but.....here it is! http://www.rndigital.com/index.html These are the weirdest things ive ever seen in a plugin!

29th January 2006, 07:52 AM	#15
catfish11 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: maui, hi. USA Posts: 674	if these are real. . . . . . i mean used toilet paper looks better than those plugs __________________ "Your petty insults are of no consequence." --Jp22

29th January 2006, 08:21 AM	#16
Diablo Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 220	I hope it's real! That's a great idea. If there's one thing I hate, it making quickie mixes for the client after tracking for 15 straight hours. I'm burnt out and totally sick from hearing the same stupid riff played 1000 times. I just wanna get the hell out of there. But no... the client has to have a mix to take home and listen to in the car, and they have already used up more than their time. I just want to strangle his lame ass out-of-tune neck, but I always give in and make a rough mix for them.... Obviously, Roger has been there done that, and we are looking at the results of his pain.

29th January 2006, 09:01 AM	#17
Einstein Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 506	More than just a compressor, the Level-izer actually rides the levels the same way you do manually............... The Level-izer learns the dynamic and spectral content of the track, (such as a vocal) and actually rides the levels and inserts automation data. You can select how much or how little you want to ride and constrict the dynamics, and how much you want to ride up the end of a vocal line. I've had that Idea forever. I actually suggested this to a couple plug-in designers. I really need to learn to program these things, haha.

29th January 2006, 09:05 AM	#18
Einstein Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 506	http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...281#post509281 Yep, but they do look pretty fake. Where's the auto-mic-placer and auto-level setter? Can it get any more awesome? I had this other idea too. If there was (or maybe there is) a plug that would analyze the curve of one track and add it to another for faster mastering EQ on album projects. Once you get one, get the others in the ballpark, no?

29th January 2006, 01:06 PM	#20
Vermeer Gear maniac Join Date: May 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 168	This is pure genius! Pure Genius! Having Roger Nichols behind this is like getting Dr. Dre behind EMINEM: instant protection from the audio vigilantes. You know, the guys that are supposed to tell us what sounds good and what doesn't and with whom you can't argue. What are they going to say? This guy doesn't know what he is doing? That the guy doesn't know about analogue gear? Nichols was doing this stuff before most of us were born! I think it's about time someone does attempt something like that. The first thing you learn about mixing is to undestand that every instrument has its own frequency and that you have to EQ other instruments in orther for that instrument to come forward. Then, there's the idea of using delay and reverb to add depth to individual or grouped instruments. Then, there's repeating the bass note frequencies higher up so that they translate better in car radios and iPods. And the list goes on and on... There is NO reasons these things could not be automated. As far as I'm concerned, if you end up doing the same basic things on every track you work with, these things should be automated. I'd buy

31st January 2006, 06:59 AM	#22
TinderArts Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 357	Did RN hire one of the Funk Logic guys??? __________________ Support live music! http://www.myspace.com/oblivionsun

31st January 2006, 09:51 AM	#24
Einstein Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 506	Hahahaha, I forgot all about that site..... "Reproduces the coveted early-to-mid-1990's ADAT sound....." Rad! I feel a corperate merger comming on here.

1st February 2006, 03:57 AM	#26
thermos Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,790	Not a joke. Hes funny though, so it comes off like a joke. I talked to him a little at Namm. Sounds like its a lot of concepts he was using during the Steely Dan days. The booth was the most visually assaulting thing at the Namm show, I assure you. But the plugs sound kind of interesting.

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LAU Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 179	http://www.gogma.com/diverse/vocsteady/

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