New Soundtoys Plugin! - Juice

[Tringboy]

yes a lp hp would make it lot more useful

[K-Slash]

Originally Posted by kosi

One little suggestion:

This could be a typical "I have it in every channel" plugin, so what about adding a lil LP HP to it to filter the bad & the ugly ?
In principle like the Lowcut Tone Hicut on the Decap. Solves the most problems for me.

And while we're at it, I could easily live with a Decap extended, means, the same plugin, only add the softer Juice algos, why a new Gui at all ?

Just a thought...

Because it's not aimed at the same use.

Differerent purposes, different marketing.

And they need to make money out of it to continue bringing top-class plugins.

To me it makes perfect sense to make them separate plugins and not update to Decapitator.

[kosi]

Originally Posted by xist

This is what you need, and it's free:

Brainworx | bx_cleansweep V2

Yep, I have it, (and as true GS also the Tilt EQ) , but I think it's the combination , what's interesting.

cleansweep is your standard hi lo pass, Tilt is imo sounding more interesting, because of the built in transformer "subtle distortion", which makes me think: "I want a bit more of subtle dist", where now Juice comes hopefully into play. But why use a second plugin, when you can have it all in one ?

I will never understand btw, why Dave Hill never ported the Phoenix to AU or VST, this plugin is so nice and so long on the market, whew

[Silver Sonya]

Originally Posted by kosi

I will never understand btw, why Dave Hill never ported the Phoenix to AU or VST, this plugin is so nice and so long on the market, whew

It's truly bizarre and frustrating.

- c

[spicemix]

While people are waiting for this (which looks awesome) may I recommend Redline Preamp?

Extremely subtle, but effective.

112dB

[Josh Burgess]

Originally Posted by Silver Sonya

It's truly bizarre and frustrating.

- c

Seriously... if the Crane Song Phoenix was available for VST I'd already have it and be using it.

[everythinglouder]

Originally Posted by spicemix

While people are waiting for this (which looks awesome) may I recommend Redline Preamp?

Extremely subtle, but effective.

112dB

Agreed.

[jimmydeluxe]

Originally Posted by everythinglouder

Agreed.

To be on topic for a moment--I'm sure I'll buy this the second it comes out, like everyone else, because it will be amazing...now back to off-topic programming for a moment:

I checked this page (112 db) out when the new blue limiter came out. I just went back from the above recommendations. Thought it looked cool, then clicked on the demo to find out the duration--60 DAYS at full functionality? Many companies (ahem one starts with an "S" and rhymes with hate lol) don't understand this concept--the longer the demo (assuming full functionality--otherwise I won't even bother), the more likely a suckerslut like me will put it all over 10 mixes and be forced to buy it! WISE UP developers!!!!!!!

[djanthonyw]

Yep, I can definitely recommend 112db's products, they're really good with simple copy protection and the devs are some of the coolest!

[kingocounty]

Originally Posted by spicemix

While people are waiting for this (which looks awesome) may I recommend Redline Preamp?

Extremely subtle, but effective.

112dB

Just gave this a try; very subtle and I like the sounds. I've been demoing some preamp emulators lately and this is my favourite so far. I'll hold off on a purchase until I try VCC (I know it's not a preamp emulator) and Juice but this is a contender.

[Protoolie]

Originally Posted by kingocounty

Just gave this a try; very subtle and I like the sounds. I've been demoing some preamp emulators lately and this is my favourite so far. I'll hold off on a purchase until I try VCC (I know it's not a preamp emulator) and Juice but this is a contender.

I think I will try this Redline Pre Amp 60 days sounds good, let you guys know how it goes. Kingcounty If you haven't tried the Decapitator you really should in my opinion it's the best Mojo plug in on the market. Does anyone know if the juice is to be released before Xmas.

[PlayRadioPlay]

Wow, can't wait!

Love the tone knob, that will be useful.

[KBToys]

Hey, just posted a couple of pics from my lab bench on the blog.
The ToyBox

-- Ken

[Izzi]

"Houston... we have wood!"

[kingocounty]

Originally Posted by Protoolie

I think I will try this Redline Pre Amp 60 days sounds good, let you guys know how it goes. Kingcounty If you haven't tried the Decapitator you really should in my opinion it's the best Mojo plug in on the market. Does anyone know if the juice is to be released before Xmas.

Thanks PT, I did try Decapitator and thought it sounded wicked-cool, but I'm after something more subtle to put on most of my tracks. I'm itching to try VCC but after hearing how "real" Decapitator sounds, I'm going to have to wait try both Juice and VCC before I purchase one. Of course, I'll probably end up buying both anyway...

[Mark D.]

Originally Posted by kingocounty

Of course, I'll probably end up buying both anyway...

That's the spirit!

[darkwater]

Hey all,
uber late to the party.. I just wanted to add one more vote for vertical on the design, with the longer fader throw, but I like the font for "juice" on the left.

I think it's cool to skew the gui on this one to set it apart from the decapitator, since they will be different beasts.

Once again, ST proves why they are one of my favs.

[Trailmix]

+1 on the Vertical long throw fader

[FBarre]

The Idea for GUI with the horse in the background seems cool to me

[traumerei1838]

never tried digital preamp emulators before. so now i'm demo-ing the wave arts tube saturator, and I can't wait to try the JUICE!
112db preamp had too many whistles; especially for trying to recreate a transformer preamp.
and you gotta admit, soundtoys is one of the FEW companies where you can pick one of their plugs and not have to worry "is this gonna work with my signal?'

[elambo]

Originally Posted by traumerei1838

soundtoys is one of the FEW companies where you can pick one of their plugs and not have to worry "is this gonna work with my signal?'

This is true. I can count on one hand the number of plugin companies in which I can place that much faith.

[torquemada]

Adding a HPF, LPF and a phase button would be awesome

[FBarre]

Originally Posted by torquemada

Adding a HPF, LPF and a phase button would be awesome

You're right, would be really great to have these just like on an input section of a console.

[Protoolie]

Originally Posted by FBarre

You're right, would be really great to have these just like on an input section of a console.

Yes the HP LP filters would be much appreciated so the plug in can mostly be used as a first insert. Go Soundtoys

[JPeters86]

want want want!

[Magnus]

Originally Posted by FBarre

What console or preamp emulations do you think hide behind those names?

American Opamp=API? Model?
American Tube=?
British Discrete=Neve? Model?
British Solid State=SSL? Model?
German Tube=?

Very interesting plugin

PS: Faceplate would look better in black. Also prefer the horizontal gui.

American Tube might be the Bill Putnam Tube mixer

German Tube = Telefunken V series (72/76)
British discrete = Neve 1073/1084
British Solid State = SSL 4000
American OpAmp = Api 312

That´s my guess anyway!

and +1 on HP-filters. That would be extremely useful.

[sonicdefault]

On an individual channel I would likely opt for a high-end filter of choice. The ST guys could always persuade me though, if they offered built in filters which were unique in design or quality ;)

In contrast, the filters on Decapitator are important due to the blend function which doesn't seem as applicable for Juice because of it's more subtle design purpose.


-SD

[Absolute]

Looks sweet

[Absolute]

Originally Posted by kosi

I will never understand btw, why Dave Hill never ported the Phoenix to AU or VST, this plugin is so nice and so long on the market, whew

He may have a deal...I dont know. But many guys hold the completely absurd business paradigm that says..."I would rather make No money if it means some people will download my product for free"

Somewhere, their math skills just left them. If I sell 10000 units and make 4,000,000 dollars--the fact that 30000 units were downloaded illegally doesn't change the fact I have 4 millions dollars. In software..you have lost zero dollars. But nobody said these guys are logical.

[Animus]

Originally Posted by Absolute

He may have a deal...I dont know. But many guys hold the completely absurd business paradigm that says..."I would rather make No money if it means some people will download my product for free"

Somewhere, their math skills just left them. If I sell 10000 units and make 4,000,000 dollars--the fact that 30000 units were downloaded illegally doesn't change the fact I have 4 millions dollars. In software..you have lost zero dollars. But nobody said these guys are logical.

I have to agree with this. Relab are done with the LX480 and they are holding it back for a ilok update. That's just money they are not making. More than likely most people that will download a krack would not have bought it anyway so not all krack downloads are 1:1 equivalent to lost income. And a new ilok version will just be a enticing target to be kracked instantaneously when it comes out so all a developer has done is not have made money and made legit users wait.