New Yamaha monitors (HS50M , HS80M) anybody tried them yet?

[Tube World]

Originally Posted by TheNoize

HS50M - Do they sound like crap, very much like the NS10? You bet they do! They're as unflattering as it gets, and that's what a real, professional mixing engineer wants. That's why I got them.

You can mix on virtually any speakers if you take the time to get used to them. I chose to get used to the NS10 sound since the beginning. Because it's a standard and amazing mixes were historically done on them. Maybe there's better mixing speakers out there, maybe not. You would have to get used to them first, anyway!

Who cares if there's better mixing speakers? Andy Wallace and Tom Lord Alge mix on NS10 and the results are amazing. If it's good enough for them as main reference, it's good enough for me, no matter what anyone says.

I can't help laughing when these kids come up and say that Yamahas are not good as main reference and they got some Events or Genelecs because the sound was so much "prettier" and "better" and "less hyped"....
I have a question to those kids: do you guys want to mix because that's what you do in life, or you want something for the listening pleasure of playing Diana Krall everytime you bring your little girlfriend for a sleep-over?

I'm an audiophile too, but I know the difference between a nearfield monitor and a hi fi speaker. Maybe you should ask yourself: are you a professional or you just want something that makes you feel like your mix is actually sounding ok?

Ah, read this review I found. I have heard these new white speakers and I agree with the reviewer that they are not the same as the NS10's. HS 80M + HS 50M + HS 10W

[izzi]

Originally Posted by scintilla

So I am interested in getting a pair of monitors and have found this thread very helpful. I just record my own stuff, samples, software synths, guitars, whatever I can find.

I am using just my ordinary, hi-fi computer speakers right now so I imagine anything is a step up.

At first I was looking at the NS-10M's but I'd have to get the amp and spend a lot of cash on something used over ebay.

So would i be more interested in the HS50's or the HS80's do you think?

If i get the 50's would I want the sub? Should I get the 80's without the sub?

I am interested in making just experimental, electronic music, any suggestions would be helpful, I am mostly concerned about getting the 50's or the 80's and whether or not I should get the sub, thanks for the help

Maybe this will also help.
Check out the reviews @ Sweetwater:

Yamaha HS50M Reviews | Sweetwater.com

Yamaha HS80M Reviews | Sweetwater.com

[izzi]

scintilla,

Subs can be a pain in the ass to set up properly and if not set up properly, can do more harm than good as far as your mixes translating well.

You have the room your mixing in to consider, the placement of the Sub, etc...

For the type of music your into, You're not going to get the lows with the 50's. I would go with the 80's without the Sub.

Also, If you're in an area where you can demo the Monitors, I would highly suggest you do that. This way you get to hear for yourself.

Just my 2 cents...

Hope this helps

[scintilla]

Originally Posted by izzi

scintilla,

Subs can be a pain in the ass to set up properly and if not set up properly, can do more harm than good as far as your mixes translating well.

You have the room your mixing in to consider, the placement of the Sub, etc...

For the type of music your into, You're not going to get the lows with the 50's. I would go with the 80's without the Sub.

Also, If you're in an area where you can demo the Monitors, I would highly suggest you do that. This way you get to hear for yourself.

Just my 2 cents...

Hope this helps

yes, yes, all very helpful, probably what I will go with! thank you much!

[izzi]

Originally Posted by scintilla

yes, yes, all very helpful, probably what I will go with! thank you much!

Cool, glad to help!

I don't know where you're located but if you do go with 80's, I think GC is selling them for $300 each and if you order them through Sweetwater you can probably get them down to about $310 a piece.

Good Luck!

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by izzi

Cool, glad to help!

I don't know where you're located but if you do go with 80's, I think GC is selling them for $300 each and if you order them through Sweetwater you can probably get them down to about $310 a piece.

Good Luck!

Yeah Sweetwater is usually better (unless there's a better deal fro some reason at GC).

[diogo_c]

Originally Posted by izzi

scintilla,

Subs can be a pain in the ass to set up properly and if not set up properly, can do more harm than good as far as your mixes translating well.

You have the room your mixing in to consider, the placement of the Sub, etc...

I would go with the 80's without the Sub.

Hope this helps

Absolutely.

Since I don't have much room treatment, I went for the 80s without the sub and the sound here in my space is so much better than the sub-setups I've experienced in some fellow producers' space. One of these guys has a HS50 and he's wondering if he gets a sub or replace those for the 80s....my advice was to replace, since he has no room treatment.

I basically produce dance-floor rhythms and the 80s felt like a glove here. In fact, in the last months I've been even using its room control feature lately (-2db lo-shelf @ 100Hz) cause my room has some exaggerated bass on one side. A sub here would make a REAL mess.

Overall, like 100 people already said: no doubts the 80s are the best buy for the price.

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by diogo_c

Absolutely.

Since I don't have much room treatment, I went for the 80s without the sub and the sound here in my space is so much better than the sub-setups I've experienced in some fellow producers' space. One of these guys has a HS50 and he's wondering if he gets a sub or replace those for the 80s....my advice was to replace, since he has no room treatment.

I basically produce dance-floor rhythms and the 80s felt like a glove here. In fact, in the last months I've been even using its room control feature lately (-2db lo-shelf @ 100Hz) cause my room has some exaggerated bass on one side. A sub here would make a REAL mess.

Overall, like 100 people already said: no doubts the 80s are the best buy for the price.

Is really room treatment that much of an issue when using a subwoofer? I have my doubts about whether a subwoofer raises the need for room treatment...

[bass man]

Originally Posted by TheNoize

Is really room treatment that much of an issue when using a subwoofer? I have my doubts about whether a subwoofer raises the need for room treatment...

I was reading your posts on this whole thread thinking "what a dick head"
I just cant believe your statement: "I have my doubts about whether a subwoofer raises the need for room treatment..."
I heard your mixes at myspace btw.and i think you need room treatment and a sub woofer at your mixing room ASAP .
And for your attitude ,find a girlfriend .
And yes i agree HS 50 M are good monitors and with proper room treatment a sub woofer can help ...

Nice day

[TheNoize]

Originally Posted by bass man

I was reading your posts on this whole thread thinking "what a dick head"
I just cant believe your statement: "I have my doubts about whether a subwoofer raises the need for room treatment..."
I heard your mixes at myspace btw.and i think you need room treatment and a sub woofer at your mixing room ASAP .
And for your attitude ,find a girlfriend .
And yes i agree HS 50 M are good monitors and with proper room treatment a sub woofer can help ...

Nice day

Ahh yes, the master speaks. Criticizing other people's attitudes and mixes. Someone should have already told you I don't put up with shitheads like you. Grow the f*ck up, oompa loompa. Maybe then you can have a mix that is half the quality of mine, and maybe get heard by someone. Until then, you're just a little brat.