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Old 4th November 2005, 05:19 AM   #1
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This is the Shit

http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages/16/index.htm


Best EQ plugin ever, for a limited time its free.

Kid you not its the shit. 3 band though freebie.

10 band is worth 1000 US


Rumours of sounding better than the algorithmix eq


go to bottom of the page.
There discussing it at KVR
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Old 4th November 2005, 05:59 AM   #2
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PC only. Bummer. I'm sure it sounds great, but damn that's a DOS looking interface son!
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Old 4th November 2005, 06:06 AM   #3
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better than the algorithmix demos ive tried!
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Old 4th November 2005, 06:11 AM   #4
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I wonder how heavy this one will be on the CPU?

I believe there's a freebie 3-band version, which I will try soon!
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Old 4th November 2005, 06:27 AM   #5
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I tried the 3 band version 1.53 in Samplitude 8.2, but it continually crashes the program time after time as soon as I attempt to insert it on a track.
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Old 4th November 2005, 06:29 AM   #6
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I tried the 3 band version 1.53 in Samplitude 8.2, but it continually crashes the program time after time as soon as I attempt to insert it on a track.

About the Samp crash go to KVR forum and post it and he wiull get to work on it.


If not ill go there now.

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Old 4th November 2005, 06:39 AM   #7
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Thanks Jonny, I posted over there as well.....
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Old 4th November 2005, 06:30 PM   #8
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I've been using the other free ones for a while now - the 1 and 4 band available through their "A Taste of Our Technology" link at the top.

Awesome, no problems. I've run it in Tracktion as well as Vegas 6. The CPU hit is a big one; thank god for the "Quality" setting! You probably won't be able to have one of these daddy's on more then a couple tracks at a time.

The interface is fine. The 4-band version has none btw.
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Old 4th November 2005, 06:51 PM   #9
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Definately inteded for mastering. I just tried the 10-band version and with all 10 bands enabled at quality setting 5 (highest, sound awesome! Kills algorithmix imho) it uses 40% cpu on my AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (good old barton core).

Latest version of the graphical GUI 3-band and 10-band version is now 1.56. Works flawlessly in all the hosts I've tried (Wavelab, FL studio, EnergyXT).

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Old 4th November 2005, 06:58 PM   #10
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I works fine in Sam 8.2 on my AMD system.
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Old 5th November 2005, 03:23 AM   #11
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fine in SAW Studio.
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Old 5th November 2005, 03:26 AM   #12
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It bogged down nuendo quite a bit
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Old 5th November 2005, 03:34 AM   #13
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I have no good plugin EQs so it's hard for me to say whether ot not it's truely "the best". I do have some API EQ though.

I'd love to hear from folks with higher-end plugs. Surely some will say this sucks, for one reason or another...
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Old 5th November 2005, 06:38 AM   #14
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yummy EQ

Glad i found this post! I really like this eq as well! The Mid-side options are great!

I do have one problem..... the 1 channel version doesn't work for me. Am i missing a In/out button or something? i think it is version 1.53, i downloaded it tonight. the 4 channel version works fine.

i'm running Cubase 3.1.0 on Windows XP SP2 P4 2.0G 1 gig Ram
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Old 5th November 2005, 07:04 AM   #15
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I have to say I'm a bit skeptical when they say there flagship vst-pc-only-pluggin (without a proper installer) is worth $1000 ??!? ( I wonder how much of that the paid to the graphic designer) when this is obviously only in beta form..

You never know, but I'm not holding my breath..

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Old 5th November 2005, 07:13 AM   #16
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The guy is offering the 10 band for a free 30 day trial also.


WRT bugs i think its up to version 1.58 now for the 3 band.
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Old 5th November 2005, 11:02 AM   #17
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the plug in sounds good.. very good indeed. The first freebie I've ever heard that's actually worth money.
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Old 5th November 2005, 02:06 PM   #18
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I have to say I'm a bit skeptical when they say there flagship vst-pc-only-pluggin (without a proper installer) is worth $1000 ??!? ( I wonder how much of that the paid to the graphic designer) when this is obviously only in beta form..
Have you tried it yet? That should answer your skepticisim.
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Old 6th November 2005, 12:22 AM   #19
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I have to say I'm a bit skeptical when they say there flagship vst-pc-only-pluggin (without a proper installer) is worth $1000 ??!? ( I wonder how much of that the paid to the graphic designer) when this is obviously only in beta form..

You never know, but I'm not holding my breath..

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1. you've never used it.

2. do you know what you're talking about and what the competition costs? It's a deal compared to the Algorithmix, which is the current king of super high quality linear phase eq's. I tried it- it is a serious eq.

3. no major mastering platform that uses plugins is available for mac, and all the plugins run on vst.

4. no plugin needs an installer. they are all just a single file that you drop in a folder.

5. so it doesn't have a slick gui. ever look at a Pultec?
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Old 6th November 2005, 01:52 AM   #20
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Oh yeah, I can hear you , I haven't used it, I've downloaded it but my studios booked up. It may be fantastic

My point was more to the fact that it is only a beta (for all intents and purposes) and I would've thought such an expensive eq would have done some more r&d before releasing it..


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Old 6th November 2005, 03:33 PM   #21
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My point was more to the fact that it is only a beta (for all intents and purposes) and I would've thought such an expensive eq would have done some more r&d before releasing it..narco
I'm not sure why you think it is still in Beta? The developer has a pretty impressive background and an outstanding customer support ethic even for people using his freebies. He is very quick to patch bugs reports (often within a couple hours), and open to suggestions & input from users. The GUI while not particularly sexy is highly functional. Above and beyond all that, it sounds better than any digital eq I have ever heard.

I would recommend checking it out before you prejudge.
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Old 6th November 2005, 08:54 PM   #22
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First of all. This Eq sounds simply GREAT!

Sory for being stupi but, can perhaps someone explain the System 1000, 2000 and 5000 thing on their website?
I simply did not understand it. What do these algorithms do?

Thanks!
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Old 6th November 2005, 11:04 PM   #23
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Didnīt understand it too, but should it have to do with callibrating to room and individualīs ears it would be exactly what I need. ( If it does though I guess one wouldnīt come around still to get himself some measuring micīn stuff nevertheless ... )

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Old 8th November 2005, 03:25 PM   #24
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The million dollar question.

Is it worth $1,000 Bucks?
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Old 9th November 2005, 09:25 PM   #25
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Who cares, the free 3-band version is now at version 1.80. As flexible as ever! Check out the monitoring section and the user twekable graph scale. There are some very nice additions to the mid/side thing too.

Not to mention the huge leaps forward in CPU usage. It now is optimised much better (especially for intel processors).

This has gotta be one of the best freebies of the year.

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Old 10th November 2005, 02:54 PM   #26
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I can't find the free 3-band version and the link above is not working.....

I get this:
This page has been superseded by the description of our 10-band Phase Linear Equalizer. (Next item in the menu bar above...)
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Old 10th November 2005, 06:07 PM   #27
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It's there, just poke around.
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Old 10th November 2005, 06:18 PM   #28
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It could do with a GUI redesign!

I'm kidding btw...
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Old 10th November 2005, 06:27 PM   #29
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I don't get this company.

I found this in the FAQ on their site:
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Q: Why are you using outboard equalizers when you could be doing it all in the digital domain?

A: Our reasons for this are several-fold:

1. Audio professionals rave about the quality of the Massenburg 8200, and even moreso about its mastering big-brother, the model 9500. Why should we attempt to best this?

2. While it is true that you could do a reasonable job of providing EQ, especially at 96 KHz sample rate, there are still digital flaws that are noticeable, compared to a fine analog equalizer.

http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages...131597244822#3
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Old 10th November 2005, 06:35 PM   #30
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This is a very unprofessional website, both in its appearance and the confusing and conflicting information that appears there. This reflects very poorly on the company. The same minds that went into creating their products.

After looking over the description of the plug-in, I clicked on "FAQ" and found this.

WTF:
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Q: Why don't you release a VST plugin that can run on a standard computer DAW?

A: It has always been our aim to provide extremely low processing throughput latencies, so that these hearing systems could be used by live performers and professional audio engineers in the mixing and editing of soundtracks.

Attempting to run our code on a conventional computer means that we are subject to the extraneous processing overhead of the computer's operating system. The Muse Receptor, and the Soundart Chameleon, represent carefully designed, dedicated audio processors. As such they can offer the extremely low throughput latencies sought by us. Conventional computers cannot, or at least, they cannot do so reliably.

Then too, if we run on an individual's computer DAW, then we are unable to control the contention for processor cycles as the user loads up on lots of other plug-ins and many editing tracks. The support logistics become nighmarish. Our algorithms, even the simplest ones, require substantial processing power, and typically require a 50% processor load on even the fastest computer workstations.

To make matters worse, a typical Mac G5 (a preferred audio DAW computer) runs these same algorithms at around 80% loading -- making it virtually impossible to perform any other useful work on the computer, and causing substantial dropouts, clicks, and sers, depending on whatever else the computer needs to do.

Processors heat up substantially when you run them this hard. Our fastest Pentium based workstation in the lab here, kicks in with a very harsh sounding fan, and will overheat if this kind of performance is required for any length of time beyond just a few minutes. In contrast, our Muse Receptors and Sound-Art Chameleons typically run our algorithm code for days and weeks on end without incident.

Finally, even if you could overcome these problems with conventional computers, doing the hearing restoration on them means that you cannot properly apply any outboard effects processing, post DAW. The hearing restoration needs to be applied at the very end of the audio chain, just ahead of the headphones and speakers.

So, having a dedicated high-performance audio processor on the outboard is really the only way to go.

http://refinedaudiometrics.com/pages...131597244822#7
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