112dB Redline Preamp

K-Slash · 13th December 2009, 08:31 AM

Hi guys,

Here is a NEW plugin from 112dB... Redline Preamp !

I'm currently beta-testing it, and believe me, it's gonna make lot of you happy. There is real "mojo" into it !

Coming january 8th, 2010. Stay tuned...

112dB

miro · 13th December 2009, 08:35 AM

how's the CPU on that one?

K-Slash · 13th December 2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miro

how's the CPU on that one?

In Samplitude 10 with Windows XP SP2 on my Pentium 4 (single core) @ 3 GHz, I get from 5 to 10% per instance.

Compared to the 70 to 200% of the Tube Saturator, that's great !

This Redline Preamp sounds GORGEOUS and provides more tonal possibilities for colouring, adding "warmth", fattening things up.

Don't get me wrong, the Wave Arts' one is AWESOME when it works on my machine (I have to kill all the others process running at the same time <_<).

But this new one is more versatile, and the sound quality is there, so I made my choice...

Gemylon · 13th December 2009, 11:40 AM

I'm exited !

These guys make good stuff

G

Football · 13th December 2009, 08:22 PM

This looks cool, enjoyed their reverb.

spicemix · 13th December 2009, 08:36 PM

The thing I look for in distortion plugins is anti-aliasing. The BBE Sweet for instance does not have anti-aliasing. But Soundtoys and some of the UAD plugins do. Without anti-aliasing you're much better off running distortion plugins at 96KHz. Of course anti-aliasing is usually done via upsampling and is thus CPU heavy. Analog gear is still superior as it can go non-linear without any aliasing whatsoever, even in cheap stuff.

I ended up buying the Redline reverb even though the initial things I tested it for it it didn't work. I decided I could use it in some situations after all. I look forward to trying this plugin out.

Blackback Drop · 9th January 2010, 12:03 PM

Its the 9th and no pre amp yet?

K-Slash · 9th January 2010, 01:03 PM

Well, it's still in beta-testing.

It's going to a little delayed but it's definitely coming along nicely !

I'm sure lot of you will like it.

dj! (112dB) · 9th January 2010, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackback Drop

Its the 9th and no pre amp yet?

That would be a correct observation.

Seriously though: we're running a couple of days late, I'm putting the finishing touches on the presets and manual as we speak. Almost there!

Also (as a sort of "last minute sanity check") I just spent a couple of hours comparing it to some "other" preamp emulations out there and I'm only starting to like it more and more--easy for me to say since I wrote it of course. But trust me when I say it'll be worth the wait!

-- dj!

K-Slash · 9th January 2010, 01:15 PM

Do you want some shiny clothes for a shiny sound ;-) ? Here we go !

scanner · 9th January 2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Slash

Do you want some shiny clothes for a shiny sound ;-) ? Here we go !

Ok, you're just showing off now K.

I'm glad I missed this one 'cos I'd have been biting my nails for a month.

miro · 9th January 2010, 03:36 PM

price?

Blackback Drop · 9th January 2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj!

That would be a correct observation.

Seriously though: we're running a couple of days late, I'm putting the finishing touches on the presets and manual as we speak. Almost there!

Also (as a sort of "last minute sanity check") I just spent a couple of hours comparing it to some "other" preamp emulations out there and I'm only starting to like it more and more--easy for me to say since I wrote it of course. But trust me when I say it'll be worth the wait!

-- dj!

I climbed out of my sick bed in the freezing cold. I had to chop down a tree to make fresh fire wood to fuel my generator just to get some electricity so I could power up my PC so I could visit your web site; only to be told:

"we're running a couple of days late"

frankymax · 9th January 2010, 07:35 PM

Hi- this looks great! Price, please, and would there be a discount for your previous loyal customers who have bought your reverb or headphone plug?

Also, will you be at NAMM next week?

K-Slash · 9th January 2010, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackback Drop

I climbed out of my sick bed in the freezing cold. I had to chop down a tree to make fresh fire wood to fuel my generator just to get some electricity so I could power up my PC so I could visit your web site; only to be told:

"we're running a couple of days late"

Good one ;-).

dj! (112dB) · 9th January 2010, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackback Drop

I climbed out of my sick bed in the freezing cold. I had to chop down a tree to make fresh fire wood to fuel my generator just to get some electricity so I could power up my PC so I could visit your web site; only to be told:

"we're running a couple of days late"

LOL!

I know you're just trying to make us feel guilty but OK, the next round of cough syrup's on me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankymax

Hi- this looks great! Price, please, and would there be a discount for your previous loyal customers who have bought your reverb or headphone plug?

Also, will you be at NAMM next week?

Redline Preamp will go for $149 with our usual "less 33%" introductory pricing of $99 for the first two months. It'll join the Redline Bundle as well so that's another way of getting it for less, or if you already own one or more of our plugins just drop us an email and we can probably cut you a good deal.

No, unfortunately I won't be at NAMM this year. It would have been great to meet some of you in person but well... with some luck in 2011!

Take care,

-- dj!

solidstate · 9th January 2010, 09:28 PM

Hey DJ, u sure got a fly looking plug in there.. Let's hope it'll sound as good as it looks;-) What are the preamp's algos based on? No offence but 'Tube amp' seems a bit generic.. Also there are some class A/trasfomers models ala API neve? Tape? I was going to get the URS one, but I decided to wait until I hear yours;-)

dj! (112dB) · 9th January 2010, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidstate

What are the preamp's algos based on? No offence but 'Tube amp' seems a bit generic.. Also there are some class A/trasfomers models ala API neve? Tape? I was going to get the URS one, but I decided to wait until I hear yours;-)

Hehe... that's because Redline Preamp *is* very generic! In fact it doesn't try to emulate any specific piece of gear but instead models a number of sonic characteristics that are common to most analogue hardware (preamps, tubes, but also tape). By adjusting the various controls--or choosing a preset, if you're lazy :)--you can dial in a lot of different analogue-style flavors, some very tube preamp-like in character, other perhaps more reminiscent of tape or consoles.

And while it probably won't give you the *exact* (for example) Neve sound in an A/B comparison, it will do many differerent convincing analogue console imitations. You'll see--I mean: hear!

-- dj!

fragletrollet · 10th January 2010, 12:43 PM

Hey I asked for the saturation from your EQ, and you follow up! Great!

Looking forward to demo this one! Whats the latency on it? Could you compare it to URS Sat and Soundtoys DECAP?

dj! (112dB) · 10th January 2010, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragletrollet

Hey I asked for the saturation from your EQ, and you follow up! Great!

Looking forward to demo this one! Whats the latency on it? Could you compare it to URS Sat and Soundtoys DECAP?

You shd know by now that 112dB live to serve... just make your wishes known!

Redline Preamp has exactly zero latency and a much much lighter CPU footprint than the Equalizer. I could compare it to URS Saturation--I'm not that familiar with Decapitator TBH--but I'm not sure that would be very professional.

One thing I will say though is that our Preamp sound is more refined than Saturation, which IMVHO comes awfully close to a overdrive or distortion unit for all but the subtlest of settings--either that or your hardware preamps sound quite different from mine!--, and capable of more different tones simply because it offers a lot more controls. Both have their merits and it probably depends on taste and/or application which one suits you better.

But OK, the damn thing is almost ready for release and I'm really excited about it so I can't resist a little showing off. Quoth one of our beta testers: The sound is GORGEOUS: rich, deep, full. This preamp is gonna be my go-to plugin for doing my gains and adding warmth before equalizing and compressing the signal. The new Number 1 in my effects chain. To me, it's the clear winner in the "family" of colouring/warming/characterish/mojo-inside plugins.

There, I said it. But ultimately, you be the judge!

-- dj!

fragletrollet · 10th January 2010, 09:29 PM

Demo demo demo

V PETERO · 10th January 2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fragletrollet

Demo demo demo

Yeah what he said

Animus · 10th January 2010, 10:26 PM

Can you give us an idea of the cpu hit of this plug?

I also like the idea of being able to control the saturation/etc of the different frequency bands.

Marando · 11th January 2010, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Animus

Can you give us an idea of the cpu hit of this plug?
[..]

"Redline Preamp has exactly zero latency and a much much lighter CPU footprint than the Equalizer."

That sounds like it´s going to be very easy on the CPU!

dj! (112dB) · 11th January 2010, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Animus

Can you give us an idea of the cpu hit of this plug?

Of course!

This is on my Core Quad/2.66GHz with an RME HDSP @ buffersize 256. And yes, I AM running 64 Preamp instances in that screenshot. :)

Errr... and I was sort of hoping for a thumbnail that you could click to enlarge. Oh well...

-- dj!

Marando · 11th January 2010, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj!

Of course!

This is on my Core Quad/2.66GHz with an RME HDSP @ buffersize 256. And yes, I AM running 64 Preamp instances in that screenshot. :)

Errr... and I was sort of hoping for a thumbnail that you could click to enlarge. Oh well...

-- dj!

I wonder what the output sounded like...

But yes, that looks nice!!

dj! (112dB) · 11th January 2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marando

I wonder what the output sounded like...

How about: very very VERY vintage?

-- dj!

everythinglouder · 12th January 2010, 03:05 AM

DJ, any update on the release date?

I think you're a great developer, I'm very excited to try this out. Cheers.

dj! (112dB) · 12th January 2010, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by everythinglouder

DJ, any update on the release date?

Everything's about ready save for some final sanity checks (installer, demo licenses, online store, etc etc), so unless something comes up at the last minute--knock on wood--we shd be able to release tomorrow.

Quote:

I think you're a great developer, I'm very excited to try this out. Cheers.

What can I say? I'm flattered!

-- dj!

Blackback Drop · 13th January 2010, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj! (112dB)

Everything's about ready save for some final sanity checks (installer, demo licenses, online store, etc etc), so unless something comes up at the last minute--knock on wood--we shd be able to release tomorrow.
-- dj!

DJ, forget knocking; I been chopin down wood all week!!

Good luck with the product.

Stephen

13th December 2009, 08:31 AM	#1
K-Slash Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: OSNY, Val d'Oise (95), France Posts: 640	112dB Redline Preamp Hi guys, Here is a NEW plugin from 112dB... Redline Preamp ! I'm currently beta-testing it, and believe me, it's gonna make lot of you happy. There is real "mojo" into it ! Coming january 8th, 2010. Stay tuned... 112dB

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miro Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,116	how's the CPU on that one? __________________ http://miropajic.com

13th December 2009, 08:36 PM	#6
spicemix Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,034	The thing I look for in distortion plugins is anti-aliasing. The BBE Sweet for instance does not have anti-aliasing. But Soundtoys and some of the UAD plugins do. Without anti-aliasing you're much better off running distortion plugins at 96KHz. Of course anti-aliasing is usually done via upsampling and is thus CPU heavy. Analog gear is still superior as it can go non-linear without any aliasing whatsoever, even in cheap stuff. I ended up buying the Redline reverb even though the initial things I tested it for it it didn't work. I decided I could use it in some situations after all. I look forward to trying this plugin out. __________________ Peter Jensen spicemix

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miro Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,116	price? __________________ http://miropajic.com

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solidstate Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 813	Hey DJ, u sure got a fly looking plug in there.. Let's hope it'll sound as good as it looks;-) What are the preamp's algos based on? No offence but 'Tube amp' seems a bit generic.. Also there are some class A/trasfomers models ala API neve? Tape? I was going to get the URS one, but I decided to wait until I hear yours;-) __________________ http://www.myspace.com/goodlifeprodteam

13th December 2009, 11:40 AM	#4
Gemylon Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North Mylon Posts: 346	I'm exited ! These guys make good stuff G

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Football Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Boston Area Posts: 1,070	This looks cool, enjoyed their reverb.

9th January 2010, 12:03 PM	#7
Blackback Drop Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 139	Its the 9th and no pre amp yet?

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K-Slash Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: OSNY, Val d'Oise (95), France Posts: 640	Well, it's still in beta-testing. It's going to a little delayed but it's definitely coming along nicely ! I'm sure lot of you will like it.

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K-Slash Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: OSNY, Val d'Oise (95), France Posts: 640	Do you want some shiny clothes for a shiny sound ;-) ? Here we go !

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frankymax Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 120	Hi- this looks great! Price, please, and would there be a discount for your previous loyal customers who have bought your reverb or headphone plug? Also, will you be at NAMM next week?

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fragletrollet Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 756	Hey I asked for the saturation from your EQ, and you follow up! Great! Looking forward to demo this one! Whats the latency on it? Could you compare it to URS Sat and Soundtoys DECAP?

10th January 2010, 09:29 PM	#21
fragletrollet Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 756	Demo demo demo

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Animus Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Durham, NC USA Posts: 6,329	Can you give us an idea of the cpu hit of this plug? I also like the idea of being able to control the saturation/etc of the different frequency bands. __________________ Cubase and Nuendo User Forums \| Cubendo.com

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everythinglouder Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,088	DJ, any update on the release date? I think you're a great developer, I'm very excited to try this out. Cheers.

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