Has anyone heard these converters

jhg · 23rd August 2005, 10:45 PM

http://www.sydec.be/Products/Details...c8/iBox+48-SA/

$2245 for (potentially) 24 channels of AD and DA! Something has got to be up.

Ziggy!! · 24th August 2005, 05:38 AM

There are a few guys over at the nuendo forums that use soundscape setups... perhaps ask them

its at www.nuendo.com

I'd love a soundscape setup...

TheSweetener · 24th August 2005, 10:07 AM

I use the IboxTA as my main converter. I think it sounds very cool. I cannot compare it to something like Lavry, but I really feel good recording with it. The only thing that is a little annoying is that they have a very hot level. 0db is around +24 db, so if you plug something like a synth or a POD to it, it will never reyh 0db, not even -6db.
Also when I first played a very hot mix through the Ibox into my Tascam desk, the inputs of the Tascam simply could not handle the level!

Bosskitty · 24th August 2005, 10:37 AM

We use soundscape in work, one red & two blue (old...about 10 yrs) Savy systems though

Sydec just re-purchased the company off them mackie folks about a year ago & theyve already implemented VST'S into the system!

Yannick · 26th August 2005, 11:32 AM

I tested them against other, more expensive ADs.
Given the 50 dollar/ch price, they were amazing !
Not considering the price, I did prefer two different converters, but I could have lived with the Ibox.

We went for the Soundscape IO896 (8ch ADDA, currently 1500 dollar per unit and co-designed by Apogee).

TheSweetener · 26th August 2005, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannick

I tested them against other, more expensive ADs.
Given the 50 dollar/ch price, they were amazing !
Not considering the price, I did prefer two different converters, but I could have lived with the Ibox.

We went for the Soundscape IO896 (8ch ADDA, currently 1500 dollar per unit and co-designed by Apogee).

Yannick, what was the difference in sound between the Ibox and the IO896?
Thanks!

Yannick · 26th August 2005, 12:47 PM

Both sounded very neutral. The IO896 has better SN ratio.
On paper, the IO896 has better THD - which could (maybe) be heard as just that bit more transparant, or natural sound.

It was this and for a big part the ability to split the 24ch over 3 boxes that made the decision (we have two mobile systems, so we would have to buy 2 Iboxes, giving 48ch but about the same price as three IO896).

FYI the other brands were Benchmarkmedia (the older 2408), Digital audio Denmark and Stagetech Truematch (1000 dollar/channel !)

DivineMusic · 31st August 2005, 04:47 AM

i'm getting the i/o 896 to go with my 002R
can't wait to hear them

Yannick · 31st August 2005, 09:53 AM

The IO896 is currently at 1495 euro.
The original price (until Mackie dumped Soundscape, and the Apogee deal was off) was set to 5000 euro per unit.

So these are actually expensive units, but 'old' stock...
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised

DivineMusic · 31st August 2005, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannick

The IO896 is currently at 1495 euro.
The original price (until Mackie dumped Soundscape, and the Apogee deal was off) was set to 5000 euro per unit.

So these are actually expensive units, but 'old' stock...
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised

lets just say i'm getting about 80% off

i'ma get um this weekend

squizz · 1st September 2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannick

The IO896 is currently at 1495 euro.
The original price (until Mackie dumped Soundscape, and the Apogee deal was off) was set to 5000 euro per unit.

So these are actually expensive units, but 'old' stock...
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised

Where did you find the IO896 for that price? Even after the exchange rate its still alot less then what they are charging on the website. i went to the website and there charge $2500 for them.

DivineMusic, do they have any more for sale where your getting yours from? I am real interested, but at the price on the website i might as well get a rosetta 800.

TheSweetener · 1st September 2005, 07:57 AM

Have a look at:
http://www.Soundscape-Audio.de

Click on the big flash frame with the ss summerdeals.

Good luck!

DivineMusic · 1st September 2005, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squizz

Where did you find the IO896 for that price? Even after the exchange rate its still alot less then what they are charging on the website. i went to the website and there charge $2500 for them.

DivineMusic, do they have any more for sale where your getting yours from? I am real interested, but at the price on the website i might as well get a rosetta 800.

nope a good friend of mine has like 6 of um and he's gonna basically hook me up with one so i can really get the sound i'm after in my home studio. the new house i'm moving into for the weekends has the icon HD3 setup in it, but thats the production house... i want my personal house to have a great sound too. i'ma send him the money this weekend... you say 2500, i'm taking one of those 0's away.. WOW.. what a deal.. i love it. i can find out if he's willing to sell another one but i doubt it'll be at my price but i'm sure it'll be well under 2500...
from what we told me, its built on the same design of the rosetta 800. the sound difference of the i/0896 VS rosetta should be very minimal

TheSweetener · 1st September 2005, 01:17 PM

I think there's quite a difference between Rosetta and the ss Apogee converter.
Soundscape use different converter chips (crystal?? I forgot which ones). Tom of Soundscape Germany told me that! So I would not expect to get a Rosetta for half the price. It will be a very high quality converter though.

gem · 1st September 2005, 01:31 PM

just have upgraded my rme converters with this summersale.
ibox-48-ta with a pci card with 5 dsp.has his own digital soundscape mixer.
wanted to keep rme and use the adats but the adat ibox version
will take till november so i decided for this package.

now i have 24i/o which sound a lot better than my rme and all
for a really nice price.just a little more than my rme setup.
all you have to get is a lot sub-d cable for all i/o.

sound is very neutral. the side-signal is a lot stronger.

can recommend this box a lot.

use it with sx.perfect integration.

cheers

squizz · 1st September 2005, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

i can find out if he's willing to sell another one but i doubt it'll be at my price but i'm sure it'll be well under 2500...

Could you find out for me? I would really appreciate it. I wouldnt mind paying more.

DivineMusic · 2nd September 2005, 08:55 AM

not a problem, i'll find out and pm you

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23rd August 2005, 10:45 PM	#1
jhg Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: nyc Posts: 368	Has anyone heard these converters http://www.sydec.be/Products/Details...c8/iBox+48-SA/ $2245 for (potentially) 24 channels of AD and DA! Something has got to be up.

24th August 2005, 10:37 AM	#4
Bosskitty Gear nut Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 130	We use soundscape in work, one red & two blue (old...about 10 yrs) Savy systems though Sydec just re-purchased the company off them mackie folks about a year ago & theyve already implemented VST'S into the system! __________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- the war against reaching about the other side continues

26th August 2005, 11:32 AM	#5
Yannick Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brussels Posts: 412	I tested them against other, more expensive ADs. Given the 50 dollar/ch price, they were amazing ! Not considering the price, I did prefer two different converters, but I could have lived with the Ibox. We went for the Soundscape IO896 (8ch ADDA, currently 1500 dollar per unit and co-designed by Apogee). __________________ Yannick Willox www.acousticrecordingservice.be (mobile recording)

26th August 2005, 12:47 PM	#7
Yannick Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brussels Posts: 412	Both sounded very neutral. The IO896 has better SN ratio. On paper, the IO896 has better THD - which could (maybe) be heard as just that bit more transparant, or natural sound. It was this and for a big part the ability to split the 24ch over 3 boxes that made the decision (we have two mobile systems, so we would have to buy 2 Iboxes, giving 48ch but about the same price as three IO896). FYI the other brands were Benchmarkmedia (the older 2408), Digital audio Denmark and Stagetech Truematch (1000 dollar/channel !) __________________ Yannick Willox www.acousticrecordingservice.be (mobile recording)

24th August 2005, 05:38 AM	#2
Ziggy!! Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,320	There are a few guys over at the nuendo forums that use soundscape setups... perhaps ask them its at www.nuendo.com I'd love a soundscape setup...

24th August 2005, 10:07 AM	#3
TheSweetener Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany / Frankfurt Posts: 952	I use the IboxTA as my main converter. I think it sounds very cool. I cannot compare it to something like Lavry, but I really feel good recording with it. The only thing that is a little annoying is that they have a very hot level. 0db is around +24 db, so if you plug something like a synth or a POD to it, it will never reyh 0db, not even -6db. Also when I first played a very hot mix through the Ibox into my Tascam desk, the inputs of the Tascam simply could not handle the level!

31st August 2005, 04:47 AM	#8
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 1,505	i'm getting the i/o 896 to go with my 002R can't wait to hear them __________________ DivineMusic 2-23-07 ppl wanna praise protools like its the best thing since pu$$y

31st August 2005, 09:53 AM	#9
Yannick Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brussels Posts: 412	The IO896 is currently at 1495 euro. The original price (until Mackie dumped Soundscape, and the Apogee deal was off) was set to 5000 euro per unit. So these are actually expensive units, but 'old' stock... I think you'll be pleasantly surprised __________________ Yannick Willox www.acousticrecordingservice.be (mobile recording)

1st September 2005, 07:57 AM	#12
TheSweetener Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany / Frankfurt Posts: 952	Have a look at: http://www.Soundscape-Audio.de Click on the big flash frame with the ss summerdeals. Good luck!

1st September 2005, 01:17 PM	#14
TheSweetener Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany / Frankfurt Posts: 952	I think there's quite a difference between Rosetta and the ss Apogee converter. Soundscape use different converter chips (crystal?? I forgot which ones). Tom of Soundscape Germany told me that! So I would not expect to get a Rosetta for half the price. It will be a very high quality converter though.

1st September 2005, 01:31 PM	#15
gem Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: germany-turkey Posts: 218	just have upgraded my rme converters with this summersale. ibox-48-ta with a pci card with 5 dsp.has his own digital soundscape mixer. wanted to keep rme and use the adats but the adat ibox version will take till november so i decided for this package. now i have 24i/o which sound a lot better than my rme and all for a really nice price.just a little more than my rme setup. all you have to get is a lot sub-d cable for all i/o. sound is very neutral. the side-signal is a lot stronger. can recommend this box a lot. use it with sx.perfect integration. cheers

2nd September 2005, 08:55 AM	#17
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 1,505	not a problem, i'll find out and pm you __________________ DivineMusic 2-23-07 ppl wanna praise protools like its the best thing since pu$$y

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