guitar amp plugin that doesn't suck!

catfish11 · 29th July 2005, 06:44 PM

haven't seen this mentioned -
native instruments ac box combo $79.00
from native instruments as download

this is bar none the best amp simulator plug i have ever played

the plexi combo sucks
the twin combo sucks
i think amplitube
pod
amp farm all more or less suck
though my pod xt is capable of some ok sounds and the effects are good

this thing rocks, i did not believe it
so i put it away
then i came back, it sounds and plays like an amp

i feel like i got an amp to add to my fender and boogie

try it 30, day demo

now i really don't like native instruments cuz their asshole rtas plugs suck on my protools hd rig
so i do not like to promote them
cuz........well, they suck

i do however also have a pc and on a pc their plugs don't suck
but the strings that came w kontakt 2 really suck
so i guess they still suck

but this one doiesn't suck
i had to suck it up to say it

of course YMMV

~ufo~ · 29th July 2005, 10:11 PM

well I happen to rather like the sansamp psa-1 plugin, but to process stuff, like organs vocals and bass.... I like to get my guitar tone from an amp and mics in a room.

sysexguy · 29th July 2005, 10:44 PM

amp sims are like McDonald's new flavor of the month...everytime I've ordered it, after one bite I realize I shoulda ordered happy meal #1, or better yet, gone somewhere else...and the next month......mmm looks good, I'll have

Down side is that since I got echo farm, I broke down and bought an SDD3000, a Fulltone TTE, an Ibanez AD202 and ...I'm not done yet

just my 0.02, but from now on, all amps plugged into my axes need a standby switch.

Andy

max cooper · 30th July 2005, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catfish11

haven't seen this mentioned -
native instruments ac box combo $79.00
from native instruments as download

Hey, thanks for the heads-up! I love stuff like this, especially for under $100. If I use it once, it's paid for itself. Might be nice on snare drums or synths, or vocals....

catfish11 · 30th July 2005, 01:27 AM

exactly,

now i am checking out guitar rig, the whole ball of wax.
this thing just may work
splitting signals for different mic cabs, ect
very cool

always good to have a pc around, alot of stuff works better on a pc

anyway, the distortion is very good on that plug, something that most even the line 6 guys
haven't really got right, of course that
goes w the clean sound too

max cooper · 30th July 2005, 11:11 AM

Boy, I must be dumb...

All this plugin does is turn the volume up and down; otherwise it doesn't change the audio at all.

I've tried every button and knob on the durn thing. Think it's a bad tube?

Dragonfly · 31st July 2005, 06:06 AM

GuitarRig is decent but it uses a lot od DSP power.

Waves is coming out with a new one called GTR in about 2 weeks. Should be around $550, and it was designed in conjunction with PRS Guitars. Looks pretty interesting, and it comes with a sort of DI box. I'll be looking into buying it when it is released.

Dante

sparker · 1st August 2005, 09:23 AM

hey - without wishing to pimp (too much...)

Guitar Rig MSRP has just been reduced substantially - not sure on the USD price, but over here we've reduced it to £229 and its selling thru dealers at £199

Cheers

Steve

**Jules** · 1st August 2005, 11:02 AM

I think AmpliTube is pretty darn good..

Jem · 1st August 2005, 03:13 PM

It's not a plugin obviously but I often use my Vetta II head to reamp guitar D.I. tracks (or clean mic'd sounds) and it works pretty well. I'm not really concerned at all about whether or not it sounds anything like the originals that it's trying to model but it can usually be made to sound pretty decent.

muddy · 1st August 2005, 06:04 PM

http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramg...5/Waves-GTR.rm

the waves amp-sim plug-in sounds pretty damn good in this namm video, and these real audio promo's ALWAYS sound like shite! check it out...

ml

arimaka · 1st August 2005, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddy

http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramg...5/Waves-GTR.rm

the waves amp-sim plug-in sounds pretty damn good in this namm video, and these real audio promo's ALWAYS sound like shite! check it out...

ml

I second that!!!! It does sound pretty good for real audio stufff.... I think this amp simulator is pretty good... can't wait to get my paws on it (even though I just purchased a tube amp)... i don't think these things will completely replace nice tube guitar amps, but they are very practical for some situations...

espasonico · 3rd August 2005, 11:43 AM

Have you tried Vox Tonelab? It´s not a plug-in but it sound very decent.

max cooper · 5th August 2005, 12:39 PM

OK, I just tried this thing again, and it's doing nothing to the signal except changing the level. There's no support for the demo, so I'm S.O.L. as far as NI is concerned. Routing has been triple-checked, and I've got eleventy-million plugins running already, so it's not like I'm a neophyte at this.

So is there some trick I'm supposed to know?

catfish11 · 6th August 2005, 02:01 AM

max-
i had trouble w his thing in protools hd on a mac
but then i saw it under tdm instruments in protools
works there, must be htdm

anyone else on protools tdm, i have amp farm
which more or less sucks, but i was wondering
how amp farm 2 sounds, i could not get the demo to
work

checked out the waves gtr thingy, that looks
pretty intriguing, sounds great on their demo video
and it is tdm, yea!!

max cooper · 10th August 2005, 01:54 AM

Turns out I had to reinstall. The version I installed had no presets, which seems to be necessary to get it going. Possibly because I did a custom install the first time.

So after messing about, the Plexi is gawd-awful. Just wretched. Pee-you!

The 'Twang-whatever' was (yaaaawwwwnnn) ok.

The AC30 was, well, ok so far. Still not sure, but I know that running the PSP Vintage Warmer right after it helps eleventy-jillion percent. I put it up against Amplitube and I think Amplitube still beats it. The AC does have some good points, though. I think what's making it sound amp like is the crystall-y, glassy high end. They did get pretty close on that. Anyhow, $79? Sure, I'll go for that.

Edit: I wasn't running through the Rosetta 800 when I tried it before. With better conversion, it's a LOT better. Combine that with the PSP VW and you're getting into nice sounding amp plugin territory. I still use amps for the real stuff, but for getting songs together, it's nice to not have to hook up an amp every time.

PurpleGuitars · 16th September 2005, 05:20 PM

I think all guitaramp plug-inns suck, It doesn't even come close to the real thing, I've tried most of them and if you really need to work with a plug-inn the ampfarm on protools TDM is pretty decent.

sleepwalker · 16th September 2005, 05:56 PM

Guitar Rig is the best amp sim I've heard. I think Amplitude sucks VERY badly. I've got both legal version.

Mind-Over-Midi · 16th September 2005, 05:59 PM

I tried the Waves GTR demo, and liked it. When i get some extra doe I plan to get it.

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29th July 2005, 10:11 PM	#2
~ufo~ Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: tilburg NL Posts: 450	well I happen to rather like the sansamp psa-1 plugin, but to process stuff, like organs vocals and bass.... I like to get my guitar tone from an amp and mics in a room. __________________ Yvo van Gemert engineer/producer The Velvet Overlook music production facilities http://www.velvetoverlook.com http://www.myspace.com/thevelvetoverlook http://www.sofatonic.com <= order our new album. http://www.myspace.com/sofatonic "Ball Blistering Bugger Blizzards"

1st August 2005, 09:23 AM	#8
sparker Gear nut Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falmouth, Cornwall UK Posts: 79	hey - without wishing to pimp (too much...) Guitar Rig MSRP has just been reduced substantially - not sure on the USD price, but over here we've reduced it to £229 and its selling thru dealers at £199 Cheers Steve __________________ Stephen Parker Music Technology Manager Arbiter Group

1st August 2005, 11:02 AM	#9
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,410	I think AmpliTube is pretty darn good.. __________________ Jules (Re: hollow column speaker stands) "Fill with the "Sands of Time" for the best bass response." - Kyle S

1st August 2005, 06:04 PM	#11
muddy Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N.Y.C. Posts: 309	http://trio.harmony-central.com/ramg...5/Waves-GTR.rm the waves amp-sim plug-in sounds pretty damn good in this namm video, and these real audio promo's ALWAYS sound like shite! check it out... ml __________________ "no, no, your all confused. it's not the sun that's goin' down, it's the hori-zon that's movin' up!" - firesign theatre

29th July 2005, 06:44 PM	#1
catfish11 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: maui, hi. USA Posts: 674	guitar amp plugin that doesn't suck! haven't seen this mentioned - native instruments ac box combo $79.00 from native instruments as download this is bar none the best amp simulator plug i have ever played the plexi combo sucks the twin combo sucks i think amplitube pod amp farm all more or less suck though my pod xt is capable of some ok sounds and the effects are good this thing rocks, i did not believe it so i put it away then i came back, it sounds and plays like an amp i feel like i got an amp to add to my fender and boogie try it 30, day demo now i really don't like native instruments cuz their asshole rtas plugs suck on my protools hd rig so i do not like to promote them cuz........well, they suck i do however also have a pc and on a pc their plugs don't suck but the strings that came w kontakt 2 really suck so i guess they still suck but this one doiesn't suck i had to suck it up to say it of course YMMV

29th July 2005, 10:44 PM	#3
sysexguy Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St-Sauveur, QC, Canada Posts: 468	amp sims are like McDonald's new flavor of the month...everytime I've ordered it, after one bite I realize I shoulda ordered happy meal #1, or better yet, gone somewhere else...and the next month......mmm looks good, I'll have Down side is that since I got echo farm, I broke down and bought an SDD3000, a Fulltone TTE, an Ibanez AD202 and ...I'm not done yet just my 0.02, but from now on, all amps plugged into my axes need a standby switch. Andy

30th July 2005, 01:27 AM	#5
catfish11 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: maui, hi. USA Posts: 674	exactly, now i am checking out guitar rig, the whole ball of wax. this thing just may work splitting signals for different mic cabs, ect very cool always good to have a pc around, alot of stuff works better on a pc anyway, the distortion is very good on that plug, something that most even the line 6 guys haven't really got right, of course that goes w the clean sound too

30th July 2005, 11:11 AM	#6
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	Boy, I must be dumb... All this plugin does is turn the volume up and down; otherwise it doesn't change the audio at all. I've tried every button and knob on the durn thing. Think it's a bad tube?

31st July 2005, 06:06 AM	#7
Dragonfly Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 189	GuitarRig is decent but it uses a lot od DSP power. Waves is coming out with a new one called GTR in about 2 weeks. Should be around $550, and it was designed in conjunction with PRS Guitars. Looks pretty interesting, and it comes with a sort of DI box. I'll be looking into buying it when it is released. Dante

1st August 2005, 03:13 PM	#10
Jem Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 32	It's not a plugin obviously but I often use my Vetta II head to reamp guitar D.I. tracks (or clean mic'd sounds) and it works pretty well. I'm not really concerned at all about whether or not it sounds anything like the originals that it's trying to model but it can usually be made to sound pretty decent.

3rd August 2005, 11:43 AM	#13
espasonico Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 508	Have you tried Vox Tonelab? It´s not a plug-in but it sound very decent.

5th August 2005, 12:39 PM	#14
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	OK, I just tried this thing again, and it's doing nothing to the signal except changing the level. There's no support for the demo, so I'm S.O.L. as far as NI is concerned. Routing has been triple-checked, and I've got eleventy-million plugins running already, so it's not like I'm a neophyte at this. So is there some trick I'm supposed to know?

6th August 2005, 02:01 AM	#15
catfish11 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: maui, hi. USA Posts: 674	max- i had trouble w his thing in protools hd on a mac but then i saw it under tdm instruments in protools works there, must be htdm anyone else on protools tdm, i have amp farm which more or less sucks, but i was wondering how amp farm 2 sounds, i could not get the demo to work checked out the waves gtr thingy, that looks pretty intriguing, sounds great on their demo video and it is tdm, yea!!

10th August 2005, 01:54 AM	#16
max cooper Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,819	Turns out I had to reinstall. The version I installed had no presets, which seems to be necessary to get it going. Possibly because I did a custom install the first time. So after messing about, the Plexi is gawd-awful. Just wretched. Pee-you! The 'Twang-whatever' was (yaaaawwwwnnn) ok. The AC30 was, well, ok so far. Still not sure, but I know that running the PSP Vintage Warmer right after it helps eleventy-jillion percent. I put it up against Amplitube and I think Amplitube still beats it. The AC does have some good points, though. I think what's making it sound amp like is the crystall-y, glassy high end. They did get pretty close on that. Anyhow, $79? Sure, I'll go for that. Edit: I wasn't running through the Rosetta 800 when I tried it before. With better conversion, it's a LOT better. Combine that with the PSP VW and you're getting into nice sounding amp plugin territory. I still use amps for the real stuff, but for getting songs together, it's nice to not have to hook up an amp every time.

16th September 2005, 05:20 PM	#17
PurpleGuitars Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 94	I think all guitaramp plug-inns suck, It doesn't even come close to the real thing, I've tried most of them and if you really need to work with a plug-inn the ampfarm on protools TDM is pretty decent.

16th September 2005, 05:56 PM	#18
sleepwalker Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 833	Guitar Rig is the best amp sim I've heard. I think Amplitude sucks VERY badly. I've got both legal version.

16th September 2005, 05:59 PM	#19
Mind-Over-Midi Lives for gear Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 966	I tried the Waves GTR demo, and liked it. When i get some extra doe I plan to get it.

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