Chandler Little Devils - 500 series EQ & Comp

wade goeke · 9th January 2009, 11:08 PM

Hi Everybody-
It almost NAMM time so that means new products. We have two new 500 series modules using new circuit designs called the Little Devils. We'll be at booth 6254 if you can drop by.
Info below.
Cheers!
Wade

bill3107 · 9th January 2009, 11:13 PM

wow great news ... my luncbox needs additional modules and i was waiting for the show... Please give us more details ...

Perelandra05 · 9th January 2009, 11:15 PM

WOW!!!!!

I can't wait to hear these...

KUDOS to the Chandler Ltd. Team!!!!

computa · 9th January 2009, 11:19 PM

Tommylicious · 9th January 2009, 11:23 PM

Ha, cool!! They already have their own smiley on GS ->

aermotor · 9th January 2009, 11:26 PM

$1500 each?

**TonyBelmont** · 9th January 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade goeke

Hi Everybody-
It almost NAMM time so that means new products. We have two new 500 series modules using new circuit designs called the Little Devils. We'll be at booth 6254 if you can drop by.
Info below.
Cheers!
Wade

I posted it in the New Product Alert at the same time you were posting it here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aermotor

$1500 each?

List is $1375. (EQ) and $1155. (comp)

Street price will probably be around $1250 and $1050.

wade goeke · 9th January 2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill3107

wow great news ... my luncbox needs additional modules and i was waiting for the show... Please give us more details ...

There is some info on the brochure thingy. Click on it a few times and it will get big enough to read :-)

They are like all our stuff - some old and some new. The EQ is very much like a 1081 or 33115 eq but is built to sound like wade. It also runs on MUCH higher voltage and that gives it a great tone.

The Comp has elements of our Germ Comp and also the 2264 compressor. I dont think it sounds exactly like either but has a nice tone. I developed some new curves (ie Germ Comp) for it that Im super happy with. I wanted to add them to the GERM Comp if they would work :-)

Thanks for supporting Chandler you *****s! Oh thats another website :-)
Wade

TEMAS · 9th January 2009, 11:50 PM

Absolutely brilliant. These tick all the boxes for me.

Thanks Wade.

Fleaman · 10th January 2009, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade goeke

I developed some new curves (ie Germ Comp) for it that Im super happy with. I wanted to add them to the GERM Comp if they would work :-)

Wade

Are you working on that? It would be nice if the Germ comp could be upgraded with some additional curves.

Little pet peeve> I wish there was an additional output control on the Germ comp, after the feedback/gain section, to allow normalizing levels between bypassed and 'in'. See you have it on this 500 series comp, but not the EQ?

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleaman

Are you working on that? It would be nice if the Germ comp could be upgraded with some additional curves.

Little pet peeve> I wish there was an additional output control on the Germ comp, after the feedback/gain section, to allow normalizing levels between bypassed and 'in'. See you have it on this 500 series comp, but not the EQ?

Since the GERM circuit is a single amp you cant really put typical output fader on it. Putting an attenuator after it kind of works but compromises the sound/headroom.

I have been working on transformer switching that nicely adjusts down output gain as well as noise floor. Im experimenting with a GERM super pre that has more features than I think any pre ever has :-) Was thinking about a "Mastering" Germ comp that can do these things with a bunch of new curves and more.....

Wade

musikwerks · 10th January 2009, 01:40 AM

Glad you persevered with the 500 format Wade. Looks nice.

piotr · 10th January 2009, 01:56 AM

They look lovely... Congratulations!

I wonder how these would perform on the 2-buss...?

p.

siddhu · 10th January 2009, 07:02 AM

Count me in on a pair of the comps. I can't wait to run my live show through these on the 2buss!

Love the sound of the Chandler stuff.

Thanks Wade (and the rest of the Chandler team).

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by musikwerks

Glad you persevered with the 500 format Wade. Looks nice.

Yeah Im glad we did too. It was really fun and I got to do a lot of listening and comparing...Good reason to be in the studio instead of "working"...
:-)

Brent · 10th January 2009, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade goeke

There is some info on the brochure thingy. Click on it a few times and it will get big enough to read :-)

They are like all our stuff - some old and some new. The EQ is very much like a 1081 or 33115 eq but is built to sound like wade. It also runs on MUCH higher voltage and that gives it a great tone.

The Comp has elements of our Germ Comp and also the 2264 compressor. I dont think it sounds exactly like either but has a nice tone. I developed some new curves (ie Germ Comp) for it that Im super happy with. I wanted to add them to the GERM Comp if they would work :-)

Thanks for supporting Chandler you *****s! Oh thats another website :-)
Wade

And here I just ordered 2 blank panels for the empty spots in my 500V.. silly me!

kgdrum_nyc · 10th January 2009, 05:44 PM

this looks very cool!

Wade: do you have any plans for a 500 format mic pre in the near future?
thanks
KG

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgdrum_nyc

this looks very cool!

Wade: do you have any plans for a 500 format mic pre in the near future?
thanks
KG

IF people like these I will put out a Little Devil mic pre. It would be priced very reasonably and have the low cut section from the EQ...I would like to do it....

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent

And here I just ordered 2 blank panels for the empty spots in my 500V.. silly me!

Yeah i dont think you can order blanks for any frame be it 500, Neve etc...Its just going to piss you off that its empty :-)

Brent · 10th January 2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade goeke

Yeah i dont think you can order blanks for any frame be it 500, Neve etc...Its just going to piss you off that its empty :-)

No doubt. I'm sure they'll look great beside my Germ.. I love that thing man! Now if you could only make a module that does the dishes and opens my beer...

t-hiho · 10th January 2009, 06:06 PM

Those compressors look like the perfect fill for the 8 free slots on my API1608! Will they work there? I do not ask because of the PSU-related items. I think about those symetrical / asymetrical / servo / trafo things, that can get in the way inside of this console. For example, my API dealer told me, I couldn't use API550B EQs in there without a modification on the API mainboard, since they needed one more OPamp at their output. But I could use 550As! Strange, isn't it? So how about Your stuff, Wade? Do You know details about that?

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent

No doubt. I'm sure they'll look great beside my Germ.. I love that thing man! Now if you could only make a module that does the dishes and opens my beer...

Yeah I need something to hand me a MTN Dew every hour!

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-hiho

Those compressors look like the perfect fill for the 8 free slots on my API1608! Will they work there? I do not ask because of the PSU-related items. I think about those symetrical / asymetrical / servo / trafo things, that can get in the way inside of this console. For example, my API dealer told me, I couldn't use API550B EQs in there without a modification on the API mainboard, since they needed one more OPamp at their output. But I could use 550As! Strange, isn't it? So how about Your stuff, Wade? Do You know details about that?

Not 100% sure on that. Doesn't make sense that a 550a would work and a B would not.
I thought all 500 stuff was built to the same spec :-) and physically they are in the same package, at least the last time I saw a B...

Im sure its easy to find out. I can make a few calls on monday...Drop me a mail monday/tuesday when you have a second....

wade@chandlerlimited.com

t-hiho · 10th January 2009, 07:32 PM

My dealer told me, it had something to do with the EQs internal circuit design, regarding symmetry and such things. The 550A EQs were "fully symmetrical design" , whereas the 550B would be not...
I have no clue if this is right...
I only was told, that there would be spare spaces on the desks mainboard for adding an additional OPamp for every slot...

Croaker · 10th January 2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade goeke

Yeah i dont think you can order blanks for any frame be it 500, Neve etc...Its just going to piss you off that its empty :-)

A lunchbox with an open slot is like a smile with a missing tooth

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-hiho

My dealer told me, it had something to do with the EQs internal circuit design, regarding symmetry and such things. The 550A EQs were "fully symmetrical design" , whereas the 550B would be not...
I have no clue if this is right...
I only was told, that there would be spare spaces on the desks mainboard for adding an additional OPamp for every slot...

We'll find out. I know who to talk to.....

**TonyBelmont** · 10th January 2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-hiho

My dealer told me, it had something to do with the EQs internal circuit design, regarding symmetry and such things. The 550A EQs were "fully symmetrical design" , whereas the 550B would be not...
I have no clue if this is right...
I only was told, that there would be spare spaces on the desks mainboard for adding an additional OPamp for every slot...

Your dealer was misinformed. The 550B requires no modification to work in the 1608. There is an option to "balance" the 550A and 550B inputs for the console with a 2510 op amp. Both the 550A and 550B have unbalanced inputs. That is all.

wade goeke · 10th January 2009, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Your dealer was misinformed. The 550B requires no modification to work in the 1608. There is an option to "balance" the 550A and 550B inputs for the console with a 2510 op amp. Both the 550A and 550B have unbalanced inputs. That is all.

Thanks Tony!

**TonyBelmont** · 10th January 2009, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade goeke

Thanks Tony!

Glad to help.

t-hiho · 11th January 2009, 12:19 AM

Thanx much for clarification.
Great board with great people here!
Greetings,
t

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9th January 2009, 11:13 PM	#2
bill3107 Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 35	wow great news ... my luncbox needs additional modules and i was waiting for the show... Please give us more details ...

9th January 2009, 11:15 PM	#3
Perelandra05 Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 261	WOW!!!!! I can't wait to hear these... KUDOS to the Chandler Ltd. Team!!!!

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computa Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,615	nice

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Tommylicious Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Haarlem, Holland Posts: 1,107	Ha, cool!! They already have their own smiley on GS ->

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aermotor Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 551	$1500 each?

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TEMAS Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,382	Absolutely brilliant. These tick all the boxes for me. Thanks Wade.

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musikwerks Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 731	Glad you persevered with the 500 format Wade. Looks nice.

10th January 2009, 06:06 PM	#21
t-hiho Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nurember Posts: 157	Those compressors look like the perfect fill for the 8 free slots on my API1608! Will they work there? I do not ask because of the PSU-related items. I think about those symetrical / asymetrical / servo / trafo things, that can get in the way inside of this console. For example, my API dealer told me, I couldn't use API550B EQs in there without a modification on the API mainboard, since they needed one more OPamp at their output. But I could use 550As! Strange, isn't it? So how about Your stuff, Wade? Do You know details about that?

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t-hiho Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nurember Posts: 157	My dealer told me, it had something to do with the EQs internal circuit design, regarding symmetry and such things. The 550A EQs were "fully symmetrical design" , whereas the 550B would be not... I have no clue if this is right... I only was told, that there would be spare spaces on the desks mainboard for adding an additional OPamp for every slot...

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t-hiho Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nurember Posts: 157	Thanx much for clarification. Great board with great people here! Greetings, t

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