Protools Controllers.....

PMoshay · 13th October 2008, 12:13 AM

I've been working on a controller surface this week and have to say the #1 reason i personally don't enjoy it.

#1..... Why the hell is everything abbreviated??? it's 2008..... can we move beyond 6 characters in the display please!!!!!! are LCD's expensive or something?
a Jitterbug cell phone offers more display info.
it's hard enough trying to figure myself out..... forget somebody else's abbreviated mumbo jumbo...........

I understand that the code written for PT has to be changed........ So did this happen in PT8???????

DielonYaMon · 13th October 2008, 04:48 AM

I agree. Makie makes a good controller for DAWs and it has LED's.

gearsux · 13th October 2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMoshay

are LCD's expensive or something?

Seriously?

Cost effects everything that companies do.

You wanna throw cell phone displays at a controller, knock yourself out. No one will stop you.

remember,
gearsux

bforest4 · 13th October 2008, 05:14 PM

My #1 problem with digi controllers, can't believe they haven't figured this out! Procontrol had 8 characters, why did they go down to 6 on all their new controllers including the Icon! I want a spill over mode at least, where you press a button on that channel and the full name spills over into the next scribble strip, they can definitely do this since there is spill over for plugin assignments on the Icon.

mixboy bob · 13th October 2008, 05:26 PM

How many characters do the LEDs on the SSL 4000 and Neve 8058's have? Does the API Legacy have more or less than those?

Rob Burrell
aka mixboy

Shaman · 13th October 2008, 07:08 PM

6 characters are more than sufficient for pop and rock

I guess no one will know what you mean if you just write KICK and leave -drum...

TVPostSound · 13th October 2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMoshay

I've been working on a controller surface this week and have to say the #1 reason i personally don't enjoy it.

#1..... Why the hell is everything abbreviated??? it's 2008..... can we move beyond 6 characters in the display please!!!!!! are LCD's expensive or something?
a Jitterbug cell phone offers more display info.
it's hard enough trying to figure myself out..... forget somebody else's abbreviated mumbo jumbo...........

I understand that the code written for PT has to be changed........ So did this happen in PT8???????

Peter,

The HUI you sold me a few years ago only had 4 characters, Dig has improved 50%!!

DaveC · 13th October 2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

6 characters are more than sufficient for pop and rock
I guess no one will know what you mean if you just write KICK and leave -drum...

That will cause a lot of confusion; it could also mean:
Kick-ass triangle track!

Goliath|Audio · 13th October 2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveC

That will cause a lot of confusion; it could also mean:
Kick-ass triangle track!

yes, but the way that Digi does thier abbreviations it would show up as KCKSTR.

Adding OLEDs to thier contrllers would add a huge cost to the controllers.

PMoshay · 13th October 2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mixboy bob

How many characters do the LEDs on the SSL 4000 and Neve 8058's have? Does the API Legacy have more or less than those?

Rob Burrell
aka mixboy

good thing about a console is when you label a channel, channels do not move like a control surface..... my console has 48 faders with a plastic scribble strip (i use grease pencil).

I just figure, since you can have 31 characters in the file name, why not have more displayed..... seems like it would make it quite a bit easier to navigate.

If you guys want to stay with 6 and deal with it, cool....... i assume you did not upgrade your star-tac cell phone either.... (thats a joke.... no flames please)

Berolzheimer · 13th October 2008, 11:41 PM

I Agree, Peter.

Duardo · 15th October 2008, 05:31 PM

There'd certainly be a tradeoff between the number and size of the characters displayed...don't know if it would be helpful to have more characters shown if they're harder to read...

PMoshay · 16th October 2008, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duardo

There'd certainly be a tradeoff between the number and size of the characters displayed...don't know if it would be helpful to have more characters shown if they're harder to read...

I'm sure that expanding the 1" square for the LED wouldnt be an objection to most people.
I can't imagine any reason why anyone would want anything less than what they type in as the track name to be displayed exactly as i typed it.

Sure if you type 'Kick" its not gonna effect you........ but if you type "AC 12 Str Capo 1"

Anyways, people are gonna argue no matter what........ go ahead and live with 6 characters....... many of us would like to upgrade with the times.

gearsux · 16th October 2008, 04:17 PM

Mods, move this thread. Doesn't belong in new products forum...

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13th October 2008, 12:13 AM	#1
PMoshay Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NY Posts: 345	Protools Controllers..... I've been working on a controller surface this week and have to say the #1 reason i personally don't enjoy it. #1..... Why the hell is everything abbreviated??? it's 2008..... can we move beyond 6 characters in the display please!!!!!! are LCD's expensive or something? a Jitterbug cell phone offers more display info. it's hard enough trying to figure myself out..... forget somebody else's abbreviated mumbo jumbo........... I understand that the code written for PT has to be changed........ So did this happen in PT8??????? __________________ www.PeterMoshay.com

13th October 2008, 04:48 AM	#2
DielonYaMon Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 380	I agree. Makie makes a good controller for DAWs and it has LED's.

13th October 2008, 05:14 PM	#4
bforest4 Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 257	My #1 problem with digi controllers, can't believe they haven't figured this out! Procontrol had 8 characters, why did they go down to 6 on all their new controllers including the Icon! I want a spill over mode at least, where you press a button on that channel and the full name spills over into the next scribble strip, they can definitely do this since there is spill over for plugin assignments on the Icon.

13th October 2008, 05:26 PM	#5
mixboy bob Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 181	How many characters do the LEDs on the SSL 4000 and Neve 8058's have? Does the API Legacy have more or less than those? Rob Burrell aka mixboy

13th October 2008, 07:08 PM	#6
Shaman Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Munich - Germany Posts: 1,789	6 characters are more than sufficient for pop and rock I guess no one will know what you mean if you just write KICK and leave -drum...

15th October 2008, 05:31 PM	#12
Duardo Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,018	There'd certainly be a tradeoff between the number and size of the characters displayed...don't know if it would be helpful to have more characters shown if they're harder to read...

16th October 2008, 04:17 PM	#14
gearsux Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 56	Mods, move this thread. Doesn't belong in new products forum...