Any Solid News About The New Macs Release Date ?

Infa · 18th July 2008, 07:51 AM

Was wondering if anyone else heard about the new Apple Mac line supposedly coming out around Aug-Sept of '08. I heard this about a month ago, but can get a for sure yet.

Bottom line is a new Chip has been released. It is the Montevina Chip. It will give the ability to make the MacBook Pros have true DUAL processors running at 3.02Ghz. Supposedly along with the new OS update they are working on (Snow Leopard) it will not only allow the Mac Pro (towers) to of coarse be extremely faster, but it will allow them to have up to 16TB of Ram !!!! Now thats HUGE !!!

Supposedly Apple Insiders also said the NEW MacBooks, and MacBook Pros being released with this new chip will have a new cosmetic overhaul......

So I am excited, and am waiting to set up my mobile system to get one of the NEW released MacBook Pro 17"'ers with fastest processor available. So I need it ASAP and can't stand waiting...

ANY NEWS, ANY ONE ??

mattrixx · 18th July 2008, 08:02 AM

The current Mac Pros can hold 32 Gig of RAM already!

peeder · 18th July 2008, 09:26 AM

Still waiting to overstretch my 2.66 quadcore Mac Pro. Of course I use a lot of non-host-based crunch.

But I am in the market for a Mac Book. I'm not especially impressed with the current line so happy to hear there is more brewing.

blaugruen7 · 18th July 2008, 09:32 AM

everybody with solid knowledge who posts here would immediatly get big trouble from apple.
so i would say play the waiting game if you will.

terminal3 · 18th July 2008, 09:47 AM

If the quad-core versions are the ones marketed as 'extremes' then I doubt they'll find their way into macbook pros, at least not right away, historically Apple puts the top-end processors into the iMacs instead (which are also entirely mobile-computing-platform based). But I'd love to be proven wrong

mattrixx · 18th July 2008, 10:31 AM

I have to disagree... My 2008 8 core is the most relible Logic Rig I have ever had (been using since v1.6) ... I am running at 32 samples with the FireFace800 and have a VirusTI and many many USB devices hanging off it too. I have got some pretty massive arrangements, but have not made it choke as yet. I only have 6 gig of RAM at the moment.

lowkey · 18th July 2008, 10:59 AM

^haha at 'only' 6 gig of ram...that used to be a pretty decent hard drive not too long ago!

i would love a quad core macbook pro. i hit the limit on my 2.2Ghz core2duo, and the current 2.5GHz model wouldnt be worth upgrading to. double the power though

sonicdefault · 18th July 2008, 11:11 AM

I'm all for progress and faster machines, but I do wish Apple would proceed a little more conservatively with new OS. IMO they should spend a little more time refining new OS releases and communicate better with developers. It's not a big deal to the non professional community I guess, but it seems to me that the side-effect of such a quick stream of new OS releases, is that developers are getting bogged down with compatibility issues, and are less able to make general advancements to their software.

Still, I can't help but be excited about this. I love my new 8 core and 10.5.

-SD

Hint · 18th July 2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattrixx

I have to disagree... My 2008 8 core is the most relible Logic Rig I have ever had (been using since v1.6) ... I am running at 32 samples with the FireFace800 and have a VirusTI and many many USB devices hanging off it too. I have got some pretty massive arrangements, but have not made it choke as yet. I only have 6 gig of RAM at the moment.

Agreed - my 2008 8Core Mac Pro is a massive improvement over my G4 in every respect.

macleodgrant · 18th July 2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peeder

Still waiting to overstretch my 2.66 quadcore Mac Pro. Of course I use a lot of non-host-based crunch.

But I am in the market for a Mac Book. I'm not especially impressed with the current line so happy to hear there is more brewing.

i'm really pleased with my first gen macbook. using it with logic and it's great. i use my Mac Pro 2.66 for serious work though and it's great

mjteix · 18th July 2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infa

Was wondering if anyone else heard about the new Apple Mac line supposedly coming out around Aug-Sept of '08. I heard this about a month ago, but can get a for sure yet.

Bottom line is a new Chip has been released. It is the Montevina Chip. It will give the ability to make the MacBook Pros have true DUAL processors running at 3.02Ghz...

ANY NEWS, ANY ONE ??

The new Montevina chips are not yet TRUE dual processors, we'll get those next year with Nehalem.

Anyway, for the MacBook Pro, what we can expect this summer is dual 2.53 to 2.80GHz with 35W cpus. I don't think that the MBP can be fitted with a 45W cpu (dual 3.06GHz or quad 2.53GHz). Late 2008 or early 2009, there will be a quad 2.26GHz at 35W, that could lead to the first quad MBP.

At the same time the first high-end desktop/server/workstation Nehalem cpus will launch, it is possible that Apple will update the Mac Pro with those new quad-core multithreaded cpus: 16 threads on a dual quad-core Mac Pro.

By the time Apple releases Snow Leopard (summer 2009), Intel will also release Nehalem mobile cpus/chipsets, dual and quad-core multithreaded, some quads will certainly get into a MBP and will allow for 8 simulaneous threads, and Snow Leopard should make those more efficient.

It is relatively easy to know when Intel is releasing new stuff, but that doesn't mean that Apple will use 1) those 2) right away. Sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not. And lately Apple has also used special runs/customized cpus for the MB Air and the iMac, they could follow the same path for the MB/MBP... or not.

ptbarnum · 18th July 2008, 05:31 PM

Apple Prepping for Notebook Refresh? - Mac Rumors

Infa · 18th July 2008, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattrixx

The current Mac Pros can hold 32 Gig of RAM already!

Matt, I know this. If you read my post more carefully, I am talking about 16 Terrabytes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not Gigabytes...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

I'm all for progress and faster machines, but I do wish Apple would proceed a little more conservatively with new OS. IMO they should spend a little more time refining new OS releases and communicate better with developers. It's not a big deal to the non professional community I guess, but it seems to me that the side-effect of such a quick stream of new OS releases, is that developers are getting bogged down with compatibility issues, and are less able to make general advancements to their software.

Still, I can't help but be excited about this. I love my new 8 core and 10.5.

-SD

Well supposedly that is exactly what they are doing with their new update to Leopard called "Snow Leopard"... Supposedly they said, no more new features, and gadgets until we FINALLY get OS X running as solid as 9 used to.

This is good news. I always thought X to be a little sluggish and sometimes funny buggy....

They said they are addressing this in Snow Leopard.

lowkey · 20th July 2008, 08:49 AM

one thing i wish they would improve is the finder. it is so much easier to browse around for files on my PC at work...even vista has multiple size icons for jpgs etc, which makes it much faster to open the right file.

NoVi · 20th July 2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lowkey

one thing i wish they would improve is the finder. it is so much easier to browse around for files on my PC at work...even vista has multiple size icons for jpgs etc, which makes it much faster to open the right file.

Do you use QuickLook in Leopard? In combination with Spotlight it's superior to anything XP/ Vista has to offer.

NoVi · 20th July 2008, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hint

Agreed - my 2008 8Core Mac Pro is a massive improvement over my G4 in every respect.

Agreed! The only thing that keeps me from creating music is mediocre written software

Infa · 20th July 2008, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowkey

one thing i wish they would improve is the finder. it is so much easier to browse around for files on my PC at work...even vista has multiple size icons for jpgs etc, which makes it much faster to open the right file.

Wow, you and I must use computers different. LOL -

I have NEVER in my life of using computers (10 years+) have EVER browsed around in a PC easier than a Mac... ever

To me early ass Mac OS 7 was better, faster, and easier to browse around in than the latest Windows XP or Vista !!!
And obviously Mac OS 9 or 10 is better than Mac OS 7, so that will let you know how much better I think OS 9 or X is compared to XP or Vista.

BTW, I don't ever use the finder. Quicker for me to just double click on the hard drive and then the same window pops up. Yet another reason why PC's SUCK !! (IMO) Wheres the Hard Drive ? And why is it not on my desktop ? And WTF is up with this lame "Start" button to navigate to anywhere ? (drive: C, drive: E, LOL !! not for me, very lame architecture and navigation design)

eddierodriguez · 20th July 2008, 12:49 PM

once you use a OS for some time, you prefer it.

your workflow depends on your skills you learned by doing.

i work with XP, Vista and OSX. none of them is the "best", if i have to use one for a longer time, i´m into it and prefer it.

and when i have to change, i first hate it and then get used to it.

one thing i often see is OSX-users bashing MS without really working on pc for a long time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infa

Quicker for me to just double click on the hard drive and then the same window pops up. Yet another reason why PC's SUCK !! (IMO) Wheres the Hard Drive ? And why is it not on my desktop ? And WTF is up with this lame "Start" button to navigate to anywhere ? (drive: C, drive: E, LOL !! not for me, very lame architecture and navigation design)

it´s all about configuration and KNOW HOW.

it´s like i would say "hey, this dodge viper sucks cause there´s no shakin´elvis on the hatrack...

it can be easily configured to your needs. mostly every way.

all you bash is the standard-config with standard install. (where OSX sucks too)

protoculture · 20th July 2008, 12:54 PM

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i work with XP, Vista and OSX. none of them is the "best", if i have to use one for a longer time, i´m into it and prefer it.

I think working with Vista has clouded your mind.

You sound like a lunatic.

thedommer · 20th July 2008, 04:28 PM

im more interested in the new OSX coming out next year with better multicore support. I have 8 cores in my 2008 mac but they dont get used very well. This beast will be way more powerful once logic and adobe start using multicore/64bit right!

sonicdefault · 20th July 2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infa

Matt, I know this. If you read my post more carefully, I am talking about 16 Terrabytes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not Gigabytes...

Well supposedly that is exactly what they are doing with their new update to Leopard called "Snow Leopard"... Supposedly they said, no more new features, and gadgets until we FINALLY get OS X running as solid as 9 used to.

This is good news. I always thought X to be a little sluggish and sometimes funny buggy....

They said they are addressing this in Snow Leopard.

Hi,

This is good news, thanks! I hadn't heard that! If this rationale is Apple's true mindset, it's very encouraging.

-SD

lowkey · 21st July 2008, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infa

Wow, you and I must use computers different. LOL -

I have NEVER in my life of using computers (10 years+) have EVER browsed around in a PC easier than a Mac... ever

To me early ass Mac OS 7 was better, faster, and easier to browse around in than the latest Windows XP or Vista !!!
And obviously Mac OS 9 or 10 is better than Mac OS 7, so that will let you know how much better I think OS 9 or X is compared to XP or Vista.

BTW, I don't ever use the finder. Quicker for me to just double click on the hard drive and then the same window pops up. Yet another reason why PC's SUCK !! (IMO) Wheres the Hard Drive ? And why is it not on my desktop ? And WTF is up with this lame "Start" button to navigate to anywhere ? (drive: C, drive: E, LOL !! not for me, very lame architecture and navigation design)

oops, im only on Tiger, so didnt realise the finder is improved. dont worry though, im no PC lover...and been using macs since the big move to os8. but i do find windows finder quicker

eddierodriguez · 21st July 2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protoculture

I think working with Vista has clouded your mind.

You sound like a lunatic.

call me lunatic, but i´m not whining and bashing without knowledge.

you just like OSX better, it´s ok! if it fits you better, wonderful!

but have in mind why pcs are minimum 80% of the market. price, range of software, range of games, compatibility, changeable components, aso...

it all clears up in the end. how long did mac-users say that macs are and will always be ten times faster and pc-architecture sucks...

well, now there´s 100% selected pc-architecture in every mac. only benefit is you get the newest of the new components about 4-6 months earlier than on market resale. some deluxe-pc manufacturers also do that.

sure it will take some time, but OSX will be software only and available for pc. for the mainstream the actual components are faster than needed by now. in 2-3 years they´re much too fast for the most apps, sales and prices decrease dramatically. (Octo-Core, Dual-Octo-Core, Quad-Octo-Core)

the margin on pc-sales is something to 0 by now! it won´t take long for expensive pcs/macs to be uneconomic.

it´s the software that matters in the end.

we´ll see who´s lunatic then. but i´m into all OSes, and i´m happy with every winner. (Linux,

e)

Football · 21st July 2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddierodriguez

once you use a OS for some time, you prefer it.

your workflow depends on your skills you learned by doing.

I worked on XP (and pc's in general) for quite a while and for me I hated it.

I had no Mac experience whatsoever when making the switch and have been a very happy customer since.

eddierodriguez · 21st July 2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Football

I worked on XP (and pc's in general) for quite a while and for me I hated it.

I had no Mac experience whatsoever when making the switch and have been a very happy customer since.

we could discuss about why you hated it, cause i bet you knew half of the functions, whatever...

on the other hand, if osx fits you right from the start, why not?!

only the bash seems so childish to me.

it´s the same with cubase, nuendo, sonar, logic, pro tools comparings.
there´s the same bash on pro tools hd.

you can work with all programs, you can do the same job with each. it only depends on you. your likes and dislikes and your dawligious orientation. mostly personal feeling and not technical specs.

emkay · 21st July 2008, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddierodriguez

we could discuss about why you hated it, cause i bet you knew half of the functions, whatever...

on the other hand, if osx fits you right from the start, why not?!

only the bash seems so childish to me.

it´s the same with cubase, nuendo, sonar, logic, pro tools comparings.
there´s the same bash on pro tools hd.

you can work with all programs, you can do the same job with each. it only depends on you. your likes and dislikes and your dawligious orientation. mostly personal feeling and not technical specs.

Doesn't seem childish to me. Just someone's opinion.
Thanks for taking the time to point out the childishness of this comment.
Who cares? Just make music!

Football · 21st July 2008, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddierodriguez

we could discuss about why you hated it, cause i bet you knew half of the functions, whatever...

on the other hand, if osx fits you right from the start, why not?!

only the bash seems so childish to me.

it´s the same with cubase, nuendo, sonar, logic, pro tools comparings.
there´s the same bash on pro tools hd.

you can work with all programs, you can do the same job with each. it only depends on you. your likes and dislikes and your dawligious orientation. mostly personal feeling and not technical specs.

Huh? The bash seems childish? You really must not have read my post. I don't understand your response to my post at all nor would I care to continue this type of conversation with you based on what you said. Carry on without me folks.

Reptil · 21st July 2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protoculture

I think working with Vista has clouded your mind.

...snip...

Deculture!!

btw.. what would anyone do with TERA bytes of RAM right now?
that would be one HUGE sample library.
maybe run the entire SETI on one machine

T_R_S · 21st July 2008, 10:07 PM

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18th July 2008, 07:51 AM	#1
Infa Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 154	Any Solid News About The New Macs Release Date ? Was wondering if anyone else heard about the new Apple Mac line supposedly coming out around Aug-Sept of '08. I heard this about a month ago, but can get a for sure yet. Bottom line is a new Chip has been released. It is the Montevina Chip. It will give the ability to make the MacBook Pros have true DUAL processors running at 3.02Ghz. Supposedly along with the new OS update they are working on (Snow Leopard) it will not only allow the Mac Pro (towers) to of coarse be extremely faster, but it will allow them to have up to 16TB of Ram !!!! Now thats HUGE !!! Supposedly Apple Insiders also said the NEW MacBooks, and MacBook Pros being released with this new chip will have a new cosmetic overhaul...... So I am excited, and am waiting to set up my mobile system to get one of the NEW released MacBook Pro 17"'ers with fastest processor available. So I need it ASAP and can't stand waiting... ANY NEWS, ANY ONE ?? __________________ As your dog says: "Hey barkeep, whose leg do you have to hump to get a Dry Martini around here?"

18th July 2008, 08:02 AM	#2
mattrixx Gear Head Join Date: May 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia. Posts: 51	The current Mac Pros can hold 32 Gig of RAM already! __________________ Regards, Matt www.mattrixx.net

18th July 2008, 10:31 AM	#6
mattrixx Gear Head Join Date: May 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia. Posts: 51	I have to disagree... My 2008 8 core is the most relible Logic Rig I have ever had (been using since v1.6) ... I am running at 32 samples with the FireFace800 and have a VirusTI and many many USB devices hanging off it too. I have got some pretty massive arrangements, but have not made it choke as yet. I only have 6 gig of RAM at the moment. __________________ Regards, Matt www.mattrixx.net

18th July 2008, 10:59 AM	#7
lowkey Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: australia Posts: 92	^haha at 'only' 6 gig of ram...that used to be a pretty decent hard drive not too long ago! i would love a quad core macbook pro. i hit the limit on my 2.2Ghz core2duo, and the current 2.5GHz model wouldnt be worth upgrading to. double the power though __________________ check out our latest 12" mixes on www.myspace.com/lowkeyandnude

18th July 2008, 09:26 AM	#3
peeder Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,549	Still waiting to overstretch my 2.66 quadcore Mac Pro. Of course I use a lot of non-host-based crunch. But I am in the market for a Mac Book. I'm not especially impressed with the current line so happy to hear there is more brewing.

18th July 2008, 09:32 AM	#4
blaugruen7 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: berlin Posts: 1,545	everybody with solid knowledge who posts here would immediatly get big trouble from apple. so i would say play the waiting game if you will.

18th July 2008, 09:47 AM	#5
terminal3 Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,218	If the quad-core versions are the ones marketed as 'extremes' then I doubt they'll find their way into macbook pros, at least not right away, historically Apple puts the top-end processors into the iMacs instead (which are also entirely mobile-computing-platform based). But I'd love to be proven wrong

18th July 2008, 11:11 AM	#8
sonicdefault Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,036	I'm all for progress and faster machines, but I do wish Apple would proceed a little more conservatively with new OS. IMO they should spend a little more time refining new OS releases and communicate better with developers. It's not a big deal to the non professional community I guess, but it seems to me that the side-effect of such a quick stream of new OS releases, is that developers are getting bogged down with compatibility issues, and are less able to make general advancements to their software. Still, I can't help but be excited about this. I love my new 8 core and 10.5. -SD __________________ ...My goal for many, many years was to obtain a beautiful API desk and be buried with it when I die... vin-gear ...My 57 is only a few years old, but I'd like to think that someday my children can pass it down to their children. Killahurts

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lowkey Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: australia Posts: 92	one thing i wish they would improve is the finder. it is so much easier to browse around for files on my PC at work...even vista has multiple size icons for jpgs etc, which makes it much faster to open the right file. __________________ check out our latest 12" mixes on www.myspace.com/lowkeyandnude

20th July 2008, 04:28 PM	#20
thedommer Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 353	im more interested in the new OSX coming out next year with better multicore support. I have 8 cores in my 2008 mac but they dont get used very well. This beast will be way more powerful once logic and adobe start using multicore/64bit right!

21st July 2008, 10:07 PM	#29
T_R_S Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canuk Posts: 3,143	Quote: