Mellowmuse ATA Plugin fixes latency in PT Le

[Sonic Nomad]

Mellomuse software have announced version 1.1 of their Auto Time Adjuster plugin;

Auto Time Adjuster

Auto Time Adjuster is designed to ease workflow in ProTools LE, when using plug-ins that generate significant latency. Currently to compensate for plugin latency you have to iether move individual audio tracks backwards/forwards or use the included Time Adjuster plugin to adjust the delay of each track in turn. One plug-in change can mean a lot of tweaks in a large project. This is where Auto Time Adjuster comes in, you insert it on every track as the last plug-in, and each track instance communicates their latency with the others. When you add/remove a plugin on a track all you need to do is enter the total latency for that track into its Auto Time Adjuster. All other tracks with Auto Time Adjuster inserted will respond by calculating and shifting their delay to compensate!

v1.1
All latency compensation delays are now calculated automatically using pinging on audio and aux channels, with just one click! OSX and Windows VST versions will be available from tomorrow. ATA v1.1 quick tour

** FXpansion's VST-RTAS Wrapper required for use in ProTools LE or M-Powered. **
price: $29.00

ATA Video

Mellowmuse Software

Latest:

* Mellowmuse customers can now get FXpansion's VST-RTAS Wrapper, for $49.00 instead of $99.00, Many thanks to Angus at FXpansion. A link with the discount code will be included in the email you receive on purchase.
* A new build of v1.1 is now available that addresses the authorisation problem, existing customers have been emailed a new serial number, online activation is no longer required for the ATA.
* We've decided to extend the introductory price of $29.00 till September 1st ($49.00 after), as we received many emails from people who missed out on the offer.
* New installer now available, includes minor fixes: keyboard now works within FXpansion wrapper, increased ping detector sensitivity.
* v1.2 coming soon, with ping level control and more aux groups, setup recall.

[SUPADUPA]

This is a GREAT idea ... and only $29 USD ... the right price ..

shows what a bunch of F**king W**kers Digi actually can be ...

One question I have ... I do heaps of parallel bussing in PTLE ..

i.e. sending outputs to various Aux tracks at the same time ..

this looks as if it will this compensate because the PTLE software buffers the Aux sends ..

am I right in thinking this ?

[matta]

Nice they have added the Ping function, I saw this when it came out and saw the potential, seems they are moving ahead with these great developments.

What would make it AMAZING and where I'd throw my money down in a second for is if the PING function used on a AUX/AUDIO track could time align HARDWARE inserts as well.

Currently it works great if you are in the box, but you would still need to align hardware inserts? Unless the ping also pings hardware inserts like it would plugs? I don't have the VST wrapper to try this but if someone does I'd love some confirmation.

But great plug, cool price!

Cheers

Matt

[Sonic Nomad]

Matt,

If you're using external hardware via an insert i/o it should work well as the ping procedure will also compensate for that.
It may become an issue if you're using sends to route directly to outboard processors via i/o's . So you may want to insert external verbs and delays and stuff that uses sends on auxes as inserts and send to those auxes instead.

Can't wait to get home a see how well it works on inserting hardware - hmm parallel compression will be so cool.

PS: Thanks for yesterday. Both Jono and myself really enjoyed the visit to your studio.
Speak later.

[jlcl]

Yeah my mind just got blown.
Fantastic product. Very easy implementation.

Thanks for making our lives easier

EDIT: As it is wrapped will this work in any vst compliant host? This is especially useful with outboard gear and when dealing with dodgy plug-ins that don't accurately report their latency.

[Sofine]

Very interesting. I wonder if Digidesign will implement it free of charge in the next PT LE update soon? Or will the next update render this plugin ineffective!!!

Jaysus, I'm not normally this paranoid

In any case, I will buy this. Good price for a real timesaver.

[eboy]

Hi

Thanks for the positive comments guys, i just finished a quick video
to show that it works equally well for hardware inserts,
the ping is routed through your outboard in the same as for software inserts.

2) ATA v1.1 - Hardware inserts

http://www.mellowmuse.com/ata-demo2.swf

The OSX and Windows versions should be up later today.

Please try out the demo once its up first before purchasing, i need feedback
especially from Windows users as testing has been very limited on pc so far.

best
Gary

Mellowmuse Software
Mellowmuse Software

[eboy]

One question I have ... I do heaps of parallel bussing in PTLE ..
i.e. sending outputs to various Aux tracks at the same time ..
this looks as if it will this compensate because the PTLE software buffers the Aux sends .
am I right in thinking this ?

Hi

If you check the first video on the site, im using two aux busses you could use
as many as you like. The exception at the moment would be sending an insert on an aux to another aux as this adds another group of latency, i would need to add further
aux groups. I can do this if its requested enough.

best
Gary

Mellowmuse Software
Mellowmuse Software

[PoorGlory]

Not to be a pessimist, but to use this plugin you have to:

-Insert it on EVERY track

-Manually figure out the latency and type it in?

If that's true, how is this easier than just shifting regions? The whole thing with the plugin communicating with other instances on other tracks is cool, but the overall idea isn't quite there yet.

[eboy]

Your referring to v1.0 where you had to type in just one figure to compensate
for any number of tracks, v1.1 uses pings now so no need to enter anything

[sevendaysoff]

good job man!

[Alxi]

Delay compensation was the only thing keeping me from mixing in PT M-powered ( i record in PT and i mix in Sonar ) But that could be the end of it....

Can wait to see how it works out.



-Alxi-

[jimmyz]

Anyone car to comment on how CPU hungry this plugin is when using under the Fxpansion wrapper in PTLE/MP? I am thinking that once I have one on everyone of my 48 tracks that it might eat up quite alot of my valuable CPU...

Great idea for a plug. Hope this update is the start of great things for LE/MP users.

Cheers,
J

[backplay]

Great stuff, thanks!!!

[lozion]

Can this work on a tdm Mix rig?

great work, btw!

[jimmyz]

lozion,

if you update to PTHD 6.4(.1) you'll have ADC as that was the 1st release to support it (and the last one that a mix rig can run).

You should be able to run it still (if you dont want to do the above). Are you using a G4 under panther? if so, you'll need v1 of the fxpansion wrapper (free download from the site when you buy v2) and that'll wrap it. If in doubt their forum moderators are employees (and pretty helpful) so I would drop in there to check.

The above is also a good method of getting new plugs not supported back to 6.4 in through the back door as wrapped VSTs, providing your G4/PC can take the pace.

Hope this helps.

J

[jimmyz]

eboy,

might I as why you have no plans to release an RTAS version of the plugin? I would have assumed that 90% of your client base for this plug is made up of PTLE & MP users.

after all, 48 tracks of wrapped vst's is going to take its toll on the CPU alot quicker than 48 RTAS plugins.

Great plug by the way. just curious.

J

[backplay]

Originally Posted by jimmyz

eboy,

might I as why you have no plans to release an RTAS version of the plugin? I would have assumed that 90% of your client base for this plug is made up of PTLE & MP users.
.

J

I guess Digi wouldn't be to fond about it. With this plugin the gap between LE and HD is closing...

[terminal3]

Originally Posted by jimmyz

might I as why you have no plans to release an RTAS version of the plugin? I would have assumed that 90% of your client base for this plug is made up of PTLE & MP users.

90% Who are the other 10% considering that it's a time adjuster for pro tools plug-in?

anyway, as has been pointed out, yes, digidesign may not be too happy about this application. same reason they don't allow native RTAS DSP-based plug-ins - it cannibalises a very important selling feature of PTHD.

[Aquarius]

Hi David,

Please consider making ATA RTAS compliant from the beginning !
I've always had a bad experience when using Angus' wrapper (though it was a great idea).
May I suggest it could be Pluggo friendly and then use Cyclin'74 wrapper ?

Thanks for your work,

Cheers,

A

[jimmyz]

A pro tools only plug thats only available in vst, takes a bit of getting the head around. reason obviously, suppose for now i can be happy with some adc le style. i've literally no idea what little yellow faces in between words mean though...

i'm going to buy it and check out how much it eats up with 48 tracks running. find out 1st hand.

j

[barryjohns]

I bought it last night. I still did not have the new features like Ping and select audio type. Hope the new version is on the website now, looking forward to seeing this work when I get home. I just bought my son an 003 and want this for him.

[jimmyz]

barry,

do you find it eats up your cpu?

thanks

j

[matta]

Hi Gary,

Thanks for the video's man! It looks AWESOME! I need to spring for the VST-RTAS wrapper before picking it up, but if it works as well as it looks in the videos it is a LIFESAVER! Congrats to you and Peeder, since I get the feeling he was also involved in this.

Major Kudos!

Matt

[Aquarius]

Hi,

Which setting must we use for "instrument track" ? Audio ?

Cheers,

A

[otobianki74]

will this work in adjusting latency for plugins as well as hardware inserts (i.e. UAD-1)?

thx.

oto

[Benmrx]

Nice work! Looks like I'm finally gonna have to get a VST-RTAS wrapper.

[digi882]

Originally Posted by jimmyz

lozion,

if you update to PTHD 6.4(.1) you'll have ADC as that was the 1st release to support it (and the last one that a mix rig can run).

You should be able to run it still (if you dont want to do the above). Are you using a G4 under panther? if so, you'll need v1 of the fxpansion wrapper (free download from the site when you buy v2) and that'll wrap it. If in doubt their forum moderators are employees (and pretty helpful) so I would drop in there to check.

The above is also a good method of getting new plugs not supported back to 6.4 in through the back door as wrapped VSTs, providing your G4/PC can take the pace.

Hope this helps.

J

Are you sure about this i have a mix and 6.4.1 and cant see any option for adc, can you advise whether you have seen this work or you are assuming it works.
cheers

[devinocampo]

Bought this a couple hours ago but only able to use the Demo until I get a response from Mellomuse with Auth. code. The noise burst really make this hard to evaluate but so far my limited testing with UAD-1/ Pro Tools LE 7.4 are extremely positive! If this works as promised it will totally change my way of working. Right now I'm just frothing at the mouth to get the full version. Please Mellomuse... send me my code soon!!!

[otobianki74]

keep me posted devinocampo... curious to see what your results are as I will be using it with uad-1/pt 7.4 as well. I pretty much got the workaround figured, but not having to think about that would be golden.

also, though, what about plugins that do not report latency.. I assume it won't compensate for those, unless this plugin measures the incurred latency via another route.

oto