Abbey Road Brilliance Pack - Page 6

Abbey Road · 3rd July 2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemylon

So I reckon if we buy before the 14th of July, we get the 'all format' version for $199.- ?

Hi all, this is correct. Up until the 14th, the price is $199 for all formats - which includes TDM.

Also, with regards to the multi-channel issue which teacue mentioned - the multi-channel function was not activated on the VST and AU versions of the plug-in. However these will be available in the next update for VST and AU. This is being worked on now and should be up on the site shortly, we will announce when this update is available.

best wishes
Abbey Road Studios
Abbey Road Plug-ins - Home

teacue · 3rd July 2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbey Road

Also, with regards to the multi-channel issue which teacue mentioned - the multi-channel function was not activated on the VST and AU versions of the plug-in. However these will be available in the next update for VST and AU. This is being worked on now and should be up on the site shortly, we will announce when this update is available.

Great news.
Thanks for taking care

kubimusik · 3rd July 2008, 06:58 PM

Now all I want for Labor Day is an AU version of the TG Mastering pack...

Absolutely LOVE the Brilliance Pack. It's, yes, you guessed it, brilliant...!

Michael Lin · 3rd July 2008, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Fear not... We will be able to process your order with paypal. There is plenty of time before their price increase (almost two full weeks), and we hope to have everything price-wise squared away with them within the next few days.

Tony, PM with the pricing when you get it. I'm interested in buying, thanks! BTW, your PM is turned off so I couldn't PM you...

gregohb · 4th July 2008, 04:26 AM

I downloaded the demo's but can't get them to work. They crash the AU manager in Logic, and there is no "demo" button. Consequently I can't even try them out. Can anyone provide assistance?

gregohb · 4th July 2008, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregohb

I downloaded the demo's but can't get them to work. They crash the AU manager in Logic, and there is no "demo" button. Consequently I can't even try them out. Can anyone provide assistance?

Ok nevermind. I see what needs to be done - to request an ilok authorization.

WildCowboys · 4th July 2008, 06:52 AM

hmmm....after a quick test of the box at 2.7kHz I could get very, very similar reults with the UAD pultec...got to do more testing on the high band and seee if the pultec is as close as with the 2.7 band....if so I do not need it, will wait for the MasteringPack EQs to come to VST....

Rock on!
Pat

cane creek · 4th July 2008, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildCowboys

hmmm....after a quick test of the box at 2.7kHz I could get very, very similar reults with the UAD pultec...got to do more testing on the high band and seee if the pultec is as close as with the 2.7 band....if so I do not need it, will wait for the MasteringPack EQs to come to VST....

Rock on!
Pat

I got similar results with the Pultec too however the fact you can run as many instances of brilliance as you like and the results were instant i bought it which frees up the UAD for other processes...

doorknocker · 4th July 2008, 10:46 AM

I spent another few days with the Brilliance Pack and came to the conclusion that this thing is incredible!

I just happen to finsih a project and there were certain spots where I was looking for maybe a tad more presence in a lead vocal or some acoustic guitars and the Brillance pack is just what the doctor ordered. I think it's a tremendous addition to other more analytical EQs.

Though I 'only' have the Bomb Factory Pultec emulations I think that the Brillance pack is sonically totally different. For me it performs a similar function like the Massey vt3 EQ but with a very different sound. Both are great but the Brillance pack is killer on things like vocals or acostic guitars. Just the right amount of presence and grit without getting harsh or steely.

I checked my 'Recording the Beatles' book the other day and it's interesting to see how these Presence boxes were origially developed to enhance the somewhat limited onboard EQs of the various Abbey Road boards and it's great to take that idea to the DAW world. I haven't heard any other plug-in that does what the Brillance Pack is doing. And you should try what the Abbeys Road guys did: Boost +10 @ 10k on drums! It was very educational for me in learning the differences of analog/bouncing vs. digital.

On a broader scale I think this is a great trend that builds on the work Steve Massey and others have done: 'Organic' plug-ins that pretty much work like they would in the analog world: Turn a know and get a result. No need to deal with hundreds of parameters and presets. And most imnportantly: Great sonics.

Congrats to Abbey Road for coming up with this! But know I want ADT (Automatic Double Tracking) as a plug-in as well!

LAU · 4th July 2008, 01:07 PM

Just tested the demo's....one word:

Brilliant!

.

manthe · 4th July 2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

I'm pretty hooked on the Duende EQ's right now!
Has anyone compared the two?

I have. The Duende stuff is tops, no doubt. You can get very similar results with the X-EQ, but it must be in 'Parallel' mode. The difference is quickness. Obviously the Brilliance pack is much quicker. I found that I got very similar results fairly quickly with the UAD-1 Pultec/Pultec Pro.

gregohb · 4th July 2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cane creek

I got similar results with the Pultec too however the fact you can run as many instances of brilliance as you like and the results were instant i bought it which frees up the UAD for other processes...

I burned about 10 demos to a cd and I am going to listen on other systems, but I didn't find anything magic about the Abbey Road plugs compared to the UA Pultec, Neve 1073, and Neve 1081, and the Precision Maximizer. The other plug I wanted to compare but don't have the BBE plugin. The one thing that makes it hard to compare is that the Abbey Roads are very simple with little variation but the others have a lot of variations and control. So far, I am not convinced.

jslevin · 4th July 2008, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregohb

I burned about 10 demos to a cd and I am going to listen on other systems, but I didn't find anything magic about the Abbey Road plugs compared to the UA Pultec, Neve 1073, and Neve 1081, and the Precision Maximizer.

Well, that's great for those who've already spent the $1500 on a UAD and all the Neve and Pultec plugs for it.

For those who haven't, and for PTHD systems, it sounds pretty sweet for $199.

JSL

CorkyTart · 4th July 2008, 07:12 PM

I demoed and uninstalled the AR Plugs. They sound great however I'm getting the same/similar results our of my pre exsisting UAD plugs. I do agree that for people that are looking into a cost effective way to start their plug arsenal that the AR plugs are the way to go.

mrtomm · 4th July 2008, 09:36 PM

Tried to use plugs but it seems it's looking for a Tpkd (digidesign) driver?
ilok says it's on the key, but something ain't right.
I need a little HELP (Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)

from my friends!

Tom

manthe · 4th July 2008, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtomm

Tried to use plugs but it seems it's looking for a Tpkd (digidesign) driver?
ilok says it's on the key, but something ain't right.
I need a little HELP (Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)

from my friends!

Tom

I'm sure you'll get by with a little help from your friends!

Coyoteous · 5th July 2008, 01:26 AM

Is there any non-linear mojo going on here? I got the demo installed and have done some initial testing. I don't hear any difference with them set flat. They do sound good boosting on just about everthing I tried - can't really tell much about the 127 cuts.

We can see a lot from Mazaga's graphs (thanks!), but is that all there is - frequency and phase changes? Does the distortion change with drive? Does the box trafo model do anything other than change the boost Q?

Thanks!

neon · 5th July 2008, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbey Road

Hello,

We are pleased to announce that the latest addition to our plug-in series – The Brilliance Pack – is now available from our website, priced at US $199.

The Brilliance Pack provides authentic emulations of vintage EMI RS127 and RS135 ‘presence’ EQs, which were key components of the Abbey Road sound during the ‘60s and used on countless famous recordings.

The plug-ins were developed from original EMI circuit schematics, circuit simulation and digital modelling of vintage Abbey Road units, and retain the operation and characteristics of the original hardware.

The plug-ins are compatible with Mac and Windows systems and are provided in TDM, RTAS, AU and VST formats. A free 10-day demo is available from Abbey Road Plug-ins

Best regards,
Abbey Road Studios

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbey Road

Hi all, this is correct. Up until the 14th, the price is $199 for all formats - which includes TDM.

Also, with regards to the multi-channel issue which teacue mentioned - the multi-channel function was not activated on the VST and AU versions of the plug-in. However these will be available in the next update for VST and AU. This is being worked on now and should be up on the site shortly, we will announce when this update is available.

best wishes
Abbey Road Studios
Abbey Road Plug-ins - Home

They sounds nice! but later for $499 ?? I have to be crazy to buy it for that price!! after all they are not a full EQ.

$199 is more than enough for that simple bundle, agin sounds kind of nice but not for $475 ...keep it at $199 if you do not want a huge drop of sales.

Toad · 5th July 2008, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manthe

I have. The Duende stuff is tops, no doubt. You can get very similar results with the X-EQ, but it must be in 'Parallel' mode. The difference is quickness. Obviously the Brilliance pack is much quicker. I found that I got very similar results fairly quickly with the UAD-1 Pultec/Pultec Pro.

Thanks Mike!! Have you A/B'ed against the Duende channel strip?

jslevin · 5th July 2008, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neon

They sounds nice! but later for $499 ?? I have to be crazy to buy it for that price!! after all they are not a full EQ.

I don't know, people seem to love that $560 limiter, and it doesn't do a hell of a lot either. I posted a license for sale here a while back for $349, sold it in about ten minutes.

JSL

WildCowboys · 5th July 2008, 10:50 AM

Please Abbey Road implement a simple output gain knob/value filed for compensating the level change....it is such a pain when the loudness cannot by compensated for when hitting bypass....

Best,
Pat

mrtomm · 5th July 2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrtomm

Tried to use plugs but it seems it's looking for a Tpkd (digidesign) driver?
ilok says it's on the key, but something ain't right.
I need a little HELP (Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)

from my friends!

Tom

Got them working.
Thanks

narcoman · 5th July 2008, 12:40 PM

something wrong with the installer today and yesterday. I tried and it wont install. Tried on three different machines..... anyone else?

lydpik · 5th July 2008, 02:36 PM

I'm sure these plug's sounds sweet, but if one already owns Waves V-series API, URS CCPRO, and others, are these still a must have?

kubimusik · 6th July 2008, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lydpik

I'm sure these plug's sounds sweet, but if one already owns Waves V-series API, URS CCPRO, and others, are these still a must have?

Try the demo.. I was surprised how different these plugs sound from any EQ plug-in I own, including other 'vintage emulation' plugs. At least to me they did, in the best possible way. But that's ultimately a very subjective decision.

izzi · 6th July 2008, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lydpik

I'm sure these plug's sounds sweet, but if one already owns Waves V-series API, URS CCPRO, and others, are these still a must have?

I have all of the same plugz that you own, this is worth checking out. Try the demo and you'll be amazed!

lydpik · 6th July 2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzi

I have all of the same plugz that you own, this is worth checking out. Try the demo and you'll be amazed!

Heh, I was afraid that you would say that... Oh man, it never stops!!

Coyoteous · 6th July 2008, 01:20 PM

- no takers on the "non-linear mojo" question?

I tried pushing them and I think heard something different going on.

How about this one: how does Brilliance compare to the TG12410 and TG12412?

jslevin · 6th July 2008, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by narcoman

something wrong with the installer today and yesterday. I tried and it wont install. Tried on three different machines..... anyone else?

Me, too ... I can't install it either. Pretty bummed about it, actually.

It just reports "errors" and "please try again" after I hit the "Install" button.

Oddly enough, it let me install on a non-system drive, for all the good that will do you.

JSL

Watersound · 6th July 2008, 09:04 PM

These are very good plugs...I'll be purchasing them once the demo expires.

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doorknocker Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 3,478	I spent another few days with the Brilliance Pack and came to the conclusion that this thing is incredible! I just happen to finsih a project and there were certain spots where I was looking for maybe a tad more presence in a lead vocal or some acoustic guitars and the Brillance pack is just what the doctor ordered. I think it's a tremendous addition to other more analytical EQs. Though I 'only' have the Bomb Factory Pultec emulations I think that the Brillance pack is sonically totally different. For me it performs a similar function like the Massey vt3 EQ but with a very different sound. Both are great but the Brillance pack is killer on things like vocals or acostic guitars. Just the right amount of presence and grit without getting harsh or steely. I checked my 'Recording the Beatles' book the other day and it's interesting to see how these Presence boxes were origially developed to enhance the somewhat limited onboard EQs of the various Abbey Road boards and it's great to take that idea to the DAW world. I haven't heard any other plug-in that does what the Brillance Pack is doing. And you should try what the Abbeys Road guys did: Boost +10 @ 10k on drums! It was very educational for me in learning the differences of analog/bouncing vs. digital. On a broader scale I think this is a great trend that builds on the work Steve Massey and others have done: 'Organic' plug-ins that pretty much work like they would in the analog world: Turn a know and get a result. No need to deal with hundreds of parameters and presets. And most imnportantly: Great sonics. Congrats to Abbey Road for coming up with this! But know I want ADT (Automatic Double Tracking) as a plug-in as well! __________________ Andi www.doorknocker.ch 'You'd be surprised how much it costs to look this cheap! - Dolly Parton

4th July 2008, 01:07 PM	#160
LAU Gear maniac Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Holland Posts: 184	Just tested the demo's....one word: Brilliant! . __________________ www.myspace.com/sonicsorcery

4th July 2008, 09:36 PM	#165
mrtomm Gear interested Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 24	HELP (Bad Pun #1) Tried to use plugs but it seems it's looking for a Tpkd (digidesign) driver? ilok says it's on the key, but something ain't right. I need a little HELP (Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1)(Bad Pun #1) from my friends! Tom

3rd July 2008, 06:58 PM	#153
kubimusik Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 74	Now all I want for Labor Day is an AU version of the TG Mastering pack... Absolutely LOVE the Brilliance Pack. It's, yes, you guessed it, brilliant...!

4th July 2008, 06:52 AM	#157
WildCowboys Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VIE Posts: 975	hmmm....after a quick test of the box at 2.7kHz I could get very, very similar reults with the UAD pultec...got to do more testing on the high band and seee if the pultec is as close as with the 2.7 band....if so I do not need it, will wait for the MasteringPack EQs to come to VST.... Rock on! Pat

4th July 2008, 07:12 PM	#164
CorkyTart Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a house Posts: 1,132	I demoed and uninstalled the AR Plugs. They sound great however I'm getting the same/similar results our of my pre exsisting UAD plugs. I do agree that for people that are looking into a cost effective way to start their plug arsenal that the AR plugs are the way to go.

5th July 2008, 01:26 AM	#167
Coyoteous Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,280	Is there any non-linear mojo going on here? I got the demo installed and have done some initial testing. I don't hear any difference with them set flat. They do sound good boosting on just about everthing I tried - can't really tell much about the 127 cuts. We can see a lot from Mazaga's graphs (thanks!), but is that all there is - frequency and phase changes? Does the distortion change with drive? Does the box trafo model do anything other than change the boost Q? Thanks!

5th July 2008, 10:50 AM	#171
WildCowboys Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: VIE Posts: 975	Please Abbey Road implement a simple output gain knob/value filed for compensating the level change....it is such a pain when the loudness cannot by compensated for when hitting bypass.... Best, Pat

5th July 2008, 12:40 PM	#173
narcoman Lives for gear Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,757	something wrong with the installer today and yesterday. I tried and it wont install. Tried on three different machines..... anyone else?

5th July 2008, 02:36 PM	#174
lydpik Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 155	I'm sure these plug's sounds sweet, but if one already owns Waves V-series API, URS CCPRO, and others, are these still a must have?

6th July 2008, 01:20 PM	#178
Coyoteous Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,280	- no takers on the "non-linear mojo" question? I tried pushing them and I think heard something different going on. How about this one: how does Brilliance compare to the TG12410 and TG12412?

6th July 2008, 09:04 PM	#180
Watersound Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersey/Nashville, TN Posts: 527	These are very good plugs...I'll be purchasing them once the demo expires. __________________ JD