Sonnox Oxford SuprEsser feedback?

[izzi]

Hello,

I'm in the market for a De-Esser. Has anyone had a chance to work with this one yet? I heard it's very CPU intensive, produces a lot of Latency and sometimes clicks, pops during playback. I'm interested in getting some feedback from people with my type of set up.

Thanks very much!

PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3 (PPC) with 8 GB of Ram, Tiger 10.4.11,
DIGI 002 (Console), ProTools LE 7.3.1cs6, Digidesign Music Production Toolkit
Logic Pro 7.2.3, (3) UAD-1e Cards, Seagate Barracuda SATA II 300 GB Secondary Internal HD (7200 RPM), OWC Mercury Elite Pro Classic 160 GB Audio HD (7200 RPM), Apogee Mini-DAC.

[Stiff]

I'm reviewing it on my blog later this week probably. The reason why I'm waiting is because I need to do some more direct comparisons. I just got the new McDSP de-esser as well and haven't had a chance to put them up against each other yet.

Re: CPU intensive & latency. Yes. Good de-essers tend to add delay. This adds a lot. There are options for it, you can choose between instantiating low and high delay versions of it.

Re: pops & clicks. Never noticed on my Intel Macs. Actually pops and clicks sounds like someone's running out of CPU juice?

Control-wise there are a lot of functions, with a simplify button if that's your cup of tea. Despite all the controls I think it's very quick to work with, not like the Digirack de-esser where you basically tweak one knob, but compared to other de-essers with a little more controls. It can be very precise. I also think Sonnox are marketing it right - it's more than a de-esser.

I won't give you a final verdict because I haven't decided on one yet. There's little doubt that it's a good de-esser (huge step up from previously mentioned Digirack), the question is more about if it's better than Eiosis E2 and McDSPs dito.

Hang in there just a few more days and I'll let you know

[izzi]

Thanks very much for the reply!,

If you have the time, please get back with your final results regarding the SuprEsser. I have the Waves De-Esser, Ren De-Esser, and the UAD Precision De-Esser but they are just not doing the job on my Lead Vox tracks. In the meanwhile, I will take a look at the Eiosis E2.

Thanks again!

[izzi]

Just picked up the Eiosis E2 and love it! So much control! Unfortunately the support has not been good. I have been emailing them the entire week without a single reply. The Syncrosoft Dongle is kind of a pain. I had to get it because even though I have an iLok, you need the Syncrosoft Dongle for the VST plug-in version, (I assume, since no one at Eiosis get back to me). The only problem I have with the Eiosis E2 is it takes a long time (almost 20 seconds!) to load in Pro Tools.

Thanks!


PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3 (PPC) with 8 GB of Ram, Tiger 10.4.11,
DIGI 002 (Console), ProTools LE 7.3.1cs6, Digidesign Music Production Toolkit.
Logic Pro 7.2.3, Peak Pro 5.2.1, Live 7, (3) UAD-1e Cards, Seagate Barracuda SATA II 300 GB Secondary Internal HD (7200 RPM), OWC Mercury Elite Pro Classic 160 GB Audio HD (7200 RPM), Apogee Mini-DAC.

[wildpark]

no problems with ilok and syncrosoft keys here mac pro 8 core 2.8 ghz 3gb ram.

at 20 seconds load meaby you have not the last driver or anything else !

Originally Posted by izzi

Just picked up the Eiosis E2 and love it! So much control! Unfortunately the support has not been good. I have been emailing them the entire week without a single reply. The Syncrosoft Dongle is kind of a pain. I had to get it because even though I have an iLok, you need the Syncrosoft Dongle for the VST plug-in version, (I assume, since no one at Eiosis get back to me). The only problem I have with the Eiosis E2 is it takes a long time (almost 20 seconds!) to load in Pro Tools.

Thanks!


PowerMac G5 DualCore 2.3 (PPC) with 8 GB of Ram, Tiger 10.4.11,
DIGI 002 (Console), ProTools LE 7.3.1cs6, Digidesign Music Production Toolkit.
Logic Pro 7.2.3, Peak Pro 5.2.1, Live 7, (3) UAD-1e Cards, Seagate Barracuda SATA II 300 GB Secondary Internal HD (7200 RPM), OWC Mercury Elite Pro Classic 160 GB Audio HD (7200 RPM), Apogee Mini-DAC.

[jdjustice]

FWIW i like it very much so far. I am doing the demo right now.

I just finished demoing the McDSP De-esser and although I didn't spend _too_ much time using it, I frankly was underwhelmed.

I am demoing the Eiosis E2 right now as well. All I can say about the Eiosis at this time is it's not (for me) a product that I can 'quickly' find desirable results with. I will be spending more time with that particular plugin before I dismiss it though.

The Sonnox SuprEsser is obviously well-programmed and well thought out. I am able to get very good results quickly and as I continue to tweak its parameters I think I can even improve its output. It operates very transparently if you wish it to. No loss of important frequency response and no squashing entire bands of frequencies just to perform its task.

Obviously it's a complicated plugin with many features though; I don't want to make it sound overly simplistic; but the bottom line that has impressed me so far is how quickly I could get rid of sibilance with very little damage to the source.

I need more time with both (well actually all 3) plugins before I can make a final call, but at this point it looks as if I will purchase the Sonnox. It's niiiiiice.


JD

[manthe]

I notice in your signature that you have UAD-1 cards. gotta say, the Precision Deesser is about the best I've ever used. Dead simple and it just always seem to nail it and do it quickly. I demoed several, including the SONNOX and the UAD beat all of them. Not that the others were bad, but none were as quick and most couldn't nail it the same way. The Sonnox was very capable, but I was basically getting comparable results in far less time with the PD. Just my opinion.

[matucha]

UAD de-esser set on fast, hi-q, full range works for me in 90%. I don't like it in band-split mode, actually I think the filter is one of the worst around.

Don't overlook fishfillet spitfish, it is free and works nicely on most of the stuff.

[Empty Planet]

I agree that the old generation of de-essers is showing its age -- and unfortunately the UAD version, to which I just activated the trial period, is in this category.

The new generation is pretty damned exciting. The Eiosis is kind of amazing. It's expensive, for a single plug, at least to my budget, but it's astonishingly flexible. The demo is absolutely saving my ass on a voiceover project I'm hip-deep in at the moment, and on which the earlier generation plugs just don't work at all without dampening the sound unacceptably, even at their lightest settings.

I'm going to take a look at the Sonnox before I commit though.


Cheers.

[izzi]

Originally Posted by wildpark

no problems with ilok and syncrosoft keys here mac pro 8 core 2.8 ghz 3gb ram.

at 20 seconds load meaby you have not the last driver or anything else !

Thanks, I sorted it out with Eiosis Support.