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[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by cww2

I'm not really that interested in where it's made - but how it sounds and the durability for a stage mic.

My question would be - what about this mic will I like better than my Beta 58, which I like quite a bit?

Thanks.

From the experience that I have with it, I've found that the M80 is a bit more detailed and has more gain before feedback. Like I've also said, I've found that it doesn't really need any eq to get it to sound good in a live mix. If you have a Beta 58 (which I am also a fan of), it wouldn't be a bad idea to check one out.

[Stiff]

I'll buy it if it isn't built in the US.

[ripper]

Originally Posted by Telefunken USA

None taken, and I understand that it could be perfectly valid question. But I can think of plenty of better questions that could have been asked. For example:

How does it sound?
How rugged is it?
How loud can you get it before it feeds back in the monitors?
What makes it different from something like an SM58?
Just to name a few...

Instead, the first thing that someone asks is "where is it made," like it's some kind of interrogation, like the spotlight is on me. Well, I'm not going to say where it is made. Not because we have something to hide, but because I'm tired of being asked the same question. So, I have decided I'm not going to answer that question about any of our mics. If someone really wants to know, call me up or send me an email. I'll gladly get back to you.


Now, does anyone have any other questions?

why does a simple question sound like an interrogation? we aint teenagers and I for one really dont want to be your parents... (pity them!)

what? you telling us buyers what questions to ask now? what's the BETTER question?
the customer is always right mate!
piss off!!!!

oh, i have a question? what planet are you from? planet Arrogance?
man, sales slutz should be BARRED!!!!!

[futur2]

Originally Posted by Stiff

I'll buy it if it isn't built in the US.

[dylansmale]

I like how telefunken posts this, because I know they wont put out samples with it or give information like where it is made (basic).

stop being so dodgey an tell us whats so good about it other than being made by telefunken and having a flashy website.

honestly. shit...

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

I like how telefunken posts this, because I know they wont put out samples with it or give information like where it is made (basic).

stop being so dodgey an tell us whats so good about it other than being made by telefunken and having a flashy website.

honestly. shit...

There will be audio samples available on the website when it is finished. The samples were made by a third party (they came from the band Umphrey's McGee). Further more, I have answered every single question that has been asked. People asked about how is sounds and I answered them. People asked about the website and I answered them. How am I being dodgy? Stop painting me out to be such a bad guy.

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by Telefunken USA

There will be audio samples available on the website when it is finished. The samples were made by a third party (they came from the band Umphrey's McGee). Further more, I have answered every single question that has been asked. People asked about how is sounds and I answered them. People asked about the website and I answered them. How am I being dodgy? Stop painting me out to be such a bad guy.

yes, stop flaming him. he is just bringing a new product to the market.

cheers

[Duardo]

How am I being dodgy?

I think that your responses to questions on where the mic is made (why does it matter, here are some better questions to ask, I'm not going to say, etc) could be construed as being on the dodgy side...

[sevendaysoff]

Originally Posted by George Necola

yes, stop flaming him. he is just bringing a new product to the market.

cheers

seriouslly people, if you're not interested move along or take it to the moan zone.

i'm waiting for the soundclips to post and i may very well be interested in 3 or 4 of these at this price point.

i have been lucky enough to work a few sessions with an AK47 this past week and I was impressed. The mics are good, atleast the couple that I have heard.

[bee]

Is the AMI / TAB Funkenwerk output transformer the only part of this microphone being made in the USA? No flamming going on here... just want to know...and would prefer a simple yes/ no answer.

[Telefunken USA]

No.

[Brad McGowan]

I wonder how it might sound on snare drum...

Brad

[Brad McGowan]

Originally Posted by Telefunken USA

We are now shipping our new M80 dynamic microphone. Check it out Telefunken | USA M80 Mic. This is a great sounding microphone with lots of gain before feedback (plus cool packaging). Priced at $229. We will be having a great promotion for it starting Summer NAMM.

By the way--can you tell us what the promotion will be?

thanks,
Brad

[Tommylicious]

Originally Posted by Brad McGowan

I wonder how it might sound on snare drum...

Me too, toms could be nice too...



BTW, Beyerdynamic M80 anyone? ;)

[Art]

Howdy!

Firstly, I think that Tele USA is a fine company and what I have tried from them has been impressive. BUT, I can see why some feel uncomfortable about the "made in china" thing. For me (and this is just my feelings about it) it is because:

1. I prefer to support countries that require companies to pay a fair wage to their empoyees and have reasonable labor laws. These are people after all, they should not have to be treated like garbage just because they happen to be born in China.

2. It is hard for me to believe that people who are treated so poorly are really paying close attention to detail and precision. Do they have some type of intrinsic pride in this product? Or is it the same as assembling a washing machine to them?

3. I really relate to in a personal way (and it seems others do too) for whatever reason to Microphones, Guitars, Outboard and such. I like to think that the people assembling/manufacturing have pride in their products and that it was built with great care. It is inspirational to use a fine German microphone, because of the heritage, history and pride of the brand. Chinese mass producton of musical instruments makes it all feel like a video game, like kids will play with it if we make it cheap enough. The China model is based on low price not high quality. Not to say that the Chinese can not make quality products, sure they can. But why do companies go there, to save money obviously.

4. In my experience, audio products made in China do not seem to become classics and hold their value too well.

That being said certain products I do not personalize with as much and the "made in china" thing is not as painful, for example a guitar tuner or Masterlink? Now of course the explanation for this is complicated, but I am more than comfortable admitting that my psychological state is questionable.

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by Brad McGowan

I wonder how it might sound on snare drum...

Brad

I like it on snare drum, it cracks a little harder. I was always a Beta 57a fan for snare, then I moved to the PR-20, and now I'm really liking the M80.

[BenJah]

Ian Jones, after reading literally thousands of threads on gearslutz, I can safely say that your rude and evasive answer to a simple question is easily the BEST example of how a company rep SHOULD NOT behave.

From your posts alone (ok, and from reading about the whole m16 debacle) I have decided to boycott your companies entire range.

There are just so many better ways you could of handled the simple question of

"where are they made"..

For example, with a polite and truthful reply...

Did your mum not teach you manners?

[dylansmale]

yes, telefunken, you were being dodgey, its okay though I don't care that much, don't take it to hard.

Umphree Mcgee?! YES! I love them, great live band. Saw them at Vegoose

[Brad McGowan]

Originally Posted by Telefunken USA

I like it on snare drum, it cracks a little harder. I was always a Beta 57a fan for snare, then I moved to the PR-20, and now I'm really liking the M80.

Hey Ian,

I have strongly disliked the sound of the PR20 on snare in the past. How would you say the M80 sounds in comparison? The thing I didn't like was the low end woofiness and thickness. I get a lot of bottom from my snare drum in my overheads which are typically a Royer SF12. So I really want brightness and crack (and not mud) to come from my close snare mic. How do you think the M80 fits in with that?

thanks,
Brad

[futur2]

presentation of sounds like this for telefunken please:

Schoeps Microphone Showroom

[Meriphew]

The Tele USA company looks like they make some great mics, but the evasiveness of answering a simple question (and one that should be standard available knowledge for all potential customers) raises the red flags for me.

Ian, set things straight and let's get back to discussing the new mic.

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by Brad McGowan

Hey Ian,

I have strongly disliked the sound of the PR20 on snare in the past. How would you say the M80 sounds in comparison? The thing I didn't like was the low end woofiness and thickness. I get a lot of bottom from my snare drum in my overheads which are typically a Royer SF12. So I really want brightness and crack (and not mud) to come from my close snare mic. How do you think the M80 fits in with that?

thanks,
Brad

The M80 doesn't sound woofy at all. I know what you are taking about with the PR-20 being a little woofy on snare though. This is definitely a brighter mic with more crack on snare.

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by Brad McGowan

By the way--can you tell us what the promotion will be?

thanks,
Brad

Unfortunately, I can't say anything until NAMM. It should be a fun promotion though.

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by Telefunken USA

Like I said, we have nothing to hide. With that said, the M80 is a combination of parts that come from America and overseas.

For those of you who missed it the first time...

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by BenJah

From your posts alone (ok, and from reading about the whole m16 debacle)

Look, I didn't want to say anything about where it's made because I didn't want to get into another discussion about the M16, and that's where I envisioned this thread heading. Not wanting to go down that road again, I choose to not answer the question hoping that it would just be dropped. I apologize for sounding rude, I just didn't want to go down a road that I thought would lead to a discussion that I want to get in to. Again, I apologize for being rude.

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by Meriphew

Ian, set things straight and let's get back to discussing the new mic.

See above posts.

Oh, and the website has been updated. There are still some more updates that need to be made, but at least it is closer to what it is supposed to be.

[Duardo]

Like I said, we have nothing to hide. With that said, the M80 is a combination of parts that come from America and overseas.
For those of you who missed it the first time...

Still kind of an odd answer...I think what people are wanting to know is whether those parts are put together and made into a microphone in the US or somewhere else?

[Telefunken USA]

Originally Posted by Duardo

Still kind of an odd answer...I think what people are wanting to know is whether those parts are put together and made into a microphone in the US or somewhere else?

The parts are put together and made into a microphone here in the US. Sorry, must have misunderstood the question.

[muziekschuur]

Is it possible there can be a female vocal on the website?

Nice on guitars though.

Will it be available in Europe? The Netherlands in particular.

Muziekschuur

[Tommylicious]

Originally Posted by muziekschuur

Will it be available in Europe? The Netherlands in particular.

Hi music-shed,

EAVR distributes and sells Telefunken USA here in NL, there used to be some problems with the use of the Telefunken name here in Europe but that's all sorted out now. ;)

I am sure it will be available here soon.