Anyone get their little Euphonix yet?

[JB872]

Anyone know when this will be available for PC's?

[mostlykeys]

After spending 4 days trying to get this thing to work with Logic and Cubase 4, i gave up. Why a "premium" or "high-end" company would release a product that was still in development is baffling. This kind of unnecessary behavior would ruin my good name if i ran my business this way.

Orlando

[Raven11]

Originally Posted by mostlykeys

After spending 4 days trying to get this thing to work with Logic and Cubase 4, i gave up. Why a "premium" or "high-end" company would release a product that was still in development is baffling. This kind of unnecessary behavior would ruin my good name if i ran my business this way.

Orlando

odd - it works in Cubase and Logic for me. Sure there could be improvements, but what software app doesn't have room for improvement???

Did you contact Euphonix regarding your problem? They were great help for me. If you didn't make any efforts to seek help then don't complain. Most problems are usually user mistakes.

[Raven11]

Originally Posted by JB872

Anyone know when this will be available for PC's?

from Euphonix online support:

"Thank you so much for your interest in our newest Artist series products.

The PC/Windows compatible Artist series products are now in development. Please come back and visit our Website for release date."

The Pro line already supports PC so it can't be too far off into the future, but who knows!?!?

[davidd]

Raven, does it work well in cubase for you?

I experience a problem in cubase and nuendo, where tech support didn´t find a reason or solution for it:

when I switch banks, or application, McMix takes at least 8 seconds to be ready for work.
Now i have 2 units, which doubles the time.

Did you experience something similar?

Logic is fine here...

David

[Raven11]

Originally Posted by davidd

Raven, does it work well in cubase for you?

I experience a problem in cubase and nuendo, where tech support didn´t find a reason or solution for it:

when I switch banks, or application, McMix takes at least 8 seconds to be ready for work.
Now i have 2 units, which doubles the time.

Did you experience something similar?

Logic is fine here...

David

I actually find that some behavior in Logic is slower than in Cubase/Nuendo. Banking is snappy for me. No issues there at all.

Be careful not to let the Mac go to sleep though. EuControl gets strange after waking your Mac up, I think it's a network thing though.

[davidd]

Thats strange.

Here Logic is fast, everything works, small projects though.

What Mac do you use?

[Raven11]

For Cubase and Nuendo you can set the number of Knobsets to Cache. This means it stays in memory so accessing those knobsets will be faster because EuCon doesn't have to recreate them eveytime. The default setting is 128. Set it to 999 if you have enough RAM. If you run out of RAM you might get crashes or other unexpected behavior...

[Raven11]

[davidd]

Thanks Raven,

I found that already.
But it makes no difference.

But good to know that it works somewhere...

I more and more get the impression of having two bad units.

I tried evreything on 3 different Macs with 2 different McMix,
and its always the same.

[mostlykeys]

Originally Posted by Raven11

odd - it works in Cubase and Logic for me. Sure there could be improvements, but what software app doesn't have room for improvement???

Did you contact Euphonix regarding your problem? They were great help for me. If you didn't make any efforts to seek help then don't complain. Most problems are usually user mistakes.

I contacted them and they replied (the next day). I am not a noob and this is not a user mistake. I have had the delay issue that many others have had as well as the eucon software either disconnecting or crashing the imac. When i got rid of the MC MIX, the computer was stable again. Everything was installed as instructed. I know it is not the computer because I am running an MLAN setup on the imac that i have zero issues with (including the control surface on the 01v96v2). I also tried to run the MC Mix without the MLAN stuff and had the same issues. Logic was a nightmare and cubase support was a joke.

I am not trying to pick a fight or anything but since when am i expected to shell out $1000 and get half developed equipment? If Neve, Manley, Avalon, etc... put out a half developed piece of equipment and then expected me to pay a premium then they would be hearing from me as well. This is not just an issue with euphonix, it is an issue with a lot of companies. Why should we have to sit here and take it?

As a side note, i got to see the MC mix (and control) in action at NAMM and thought that this was one of the coolest pieces of gear to come out this year. I LIKE the unit. I am not pleased with my experience as a customer - i expect my unit to work when i purchase it.

Thanks and sorry for the tirade.

Orlando

[mostlykeys]

Originally Posted by davidd

Thanks Raven,

I found that already.
But it makes no difference.

But good to know that it works somewhere...

I more and more get the impression of having two bad units.

I tried evreything on 3 different Macs with 2 different McMix,
and its always the same.

You know, i wonder if it isn't a bad batch of units. It does seem interesting that nearly everyone is complaining about the same issues.

Orlando

[davidd]

Orlando,

I understand you quite well, as I got lots of frustration
getting the controller I always wanted, and then it works only "almost".

But it´s such a cool thing, that in this case I don´t care to be a betatester,
as long as I´m getting it to work - pretty soon.

[davidd]

Originally Posted by mostlykeys

You know, i wonder if it isn't a bad batch of units. It does seem interesting that nearly everyone is complaining about the same issues.

Orlando

Where did you find someone - except me - who has this issue?

[rashadrm@hotmai]

So here are a few pics of mine.

[yoink]

Originally Posted by rashadrm@hotmai

So here are a few pics of mine.

Now that's my kind of porn. Which is sick in so many ways if you think about it.

So I suggest you not. ;)

My MC Mix is being delivered tomorrow and I've got my order in for the MC Control.

I only wish it came with a room that looked like yours!

[jacko]

Originally Posted by rashadrm@hotmai

So here are a few pics of mine.

does it work with pro tools well?

[rashadrm@hotmai]

Originally Posted by jacko

does it work with pro tools well?

Its ok with either app, still some bugs to be sorted out, especially when dealing with plugs etc. I primarily use them for the basic functions like vol mute pan and solo. For now Im in protools more than logic but im using them daily now so I can monitor the performance more. But make no mistake about it, it feels a lot like beta testing but I would like to think that euphonix will get it sorted out.

[Raven11]

it works with Pro Tools. i

t is HUI so therein is the limnitation. Not all HUI features can be accessed from the MC Mix unit (not enough buttons compared to the old Mackie HUI)

The MC Control will hopefully add to that with the touch screen much in the way Euphonix did with the S5MC (bigger expensive one).

The EuCon applications are better for sure, but for me it's been great all around.

[mostlykeys]

Originally Posted by davidd

Where did you find someone - except me - who has this issue?

Do a search. There are a few posts of people having the delayed response problems.

The unit is cool and i am glad its working flawlessly for you all. I do production full time and just don't have the time to beta test products.

Orlando

[davidd]

Originally Posted by mostlykeys

Do a search. There are a few posts of people having the delayed response problems.

The unit is cool and i am glad its working flawlessly for you all. I do production full time and just don't have the time to beta test products.

Orlando

No, there are no posts about a Nuendo/cubase delay problem in the whole internet
except my own.

If I missed something, please post a link. I look for Nuendo-McMix users, and cannot find one.

[hednoize]

I've had an MC Mix for a couple weeks and though I love the faders and the OLEDs are gorgeous and far superior to the MCU's, I have to say I'm really disappointed at the placement of the track select/rec enable buttons between the faders, anyone else perturbed by this?

I use the select buttons frequently for project navigation, and more often than not my mix ends up with all the faders generally in line with the select buttons on the MC Mix. I spent a week on a track and gave the MC Mix a good workout -- my biggest issue was going for the select button and inadvertently nudging the fader on either side. Really annoying. If I take it slowly and carefully hit the button there's not a problem, but I tend to work really fast and I don't want to have to approach my button pushing so gingerly.

Other than that, I've seen a few bugs and inexplicable epileptic fader behavior, but I still like the MC Mix a lot. It's definitely sexy. I really wanted to love it and was so looking forward to the MC Control. But I think I'm going back to the Mackie Control Pros. :(

Free

[blayz2002]

Originally Posted by rashadrm@hotmai

So here are a few pics of mine.

Ooh that's a nice little set up! looks like you got some quality tools there. All you need is the MC's to integrate real smooth now and bring it all together.

What sort of production are you doing (if you don't mind me asking)? is it post stuff or TV or something?

[rashadrm@hotmai]

Originally Posted by hednoize

I've had an MC Mix for a couple weeks and though I love the faders and the OLEDs are gorgeous and far superior to the MCU's, I have to say I'm really disappointed at the placement of the track select/rec enable buttons between the faders, anyone else perturbed by this?

I use the select buttons frequently for project navigation, and more often than not my mix ends up with all the faders generally in line with the select buttons on the MC Mix. I spent a week on a track and gave the MC Mix a good workout -- my biggest issue was going for the select button and inadvertently nudging the fader on either side. Really annoying. If I take it slowly and carefully hit the button there's not a problem, but I tend to work really fast and I don't want to have to approach my button pushing so gingerly.

Other than that, I've seen a few bugs and inexplicable epileptic fader behavior, but I still like the MC Mix a lot. It's definitely sexy. I really wanted to love it and was so looking forward to the MC Control. But I think I'm going back to the Mackie Control Pros. :(

Free

I agree the select buttons take a little getting used to, no real problems with nudging faders though and if so a quick undo takes care of that when in doubt. The bigger issue is stability and the mackie controls are definately more stable for now, but at the end of the day I think the euphonix will hold its own. Ive still got my mackies, but Im hoping I wont need to go back.

[rashadrm@hotmai]

Originally Posted by blayz2002

Ooh that's a nice little set up! looks like you got some quality tools there. All you need is the MC's to integrate real smooth now and bring it all together.

I really need these things to be a bit more stable, but as you can see , nothing else will fit on my new desk so I will have to wait it out. My biggest complaint right now is random dropouts, it takes me less then 30 seconds to get a unit back up and I can do it without stopping the sequencer so I guess thats the good with the bad.

What sort of production are you doing (if you don't mind me asking)? is it post stuff or TV or something?

Music: R&B, POP Rock Mixing, Mastering, Video editing with a focus on independent content creation. In the future Film and Television scoring.

Cheers.

[mostlykeys]

Originally Posted by davidd

No, there are no posts about a Nuendo/cubase delay problem in the whole internet
except my own.

If I missed something, please post a link. I look for Nuendo-McMix users, and cannot find one.

Well, i guess i have to take back the things i said about Euphonix. I didn't realized the posts in the other forums were from you.

I guess there's only 2 of us that have had issues.

Orlando

[ETM Dude]

Originally Posted by rashadrm@hotmai

Music: R&B, POP Rock Mixing, Mastering, Video editing with a focus on independent content creation. In the future Film and Television scoring.

Cheers.

I really like your desk layout, is it a custom desk?

[davidd]

Originally Posted by mostlykeys

Well, i guess i have to take back the things i said about Euphonix. I didn't realized the posts in the other forums were from you.

I guess there's only 2 of us that have had issues.

Orlando

Looks like lots of people having issues.

I´m talking about one specific issue, where I cannot find a second guy experiencing it,
while Euphonix support is not able to reproduce it...

[rashadrm@hotmai]

Originally Posted by ETM Dude

I really like your desk layout, is it a custom desk?

Thanks, its custom. Multi tasking, track , mix, master , and video editing.

[mostlykeys]

Originally Posted by davidd

Looks like lots of people having issues.

I´m talking about one specific issue, where I cannot find a second guy experiencing it,
while Euphonix support is not able to reproduce it...

I'm the second guy having the delay in cubase! I posted that earlier.

So far you have to units experiencing the same issues i had had on mine. So that makes 3 units with the same issue. as i posted earlier, i do suppose that either there were some defective units in this batch or you computer and mine have the exact same hardware (or software) causing conflicts - which i think less likely.

Orlando