Anyone get their little Euphonix yet?

[makinnoize]

Originally Posted by drumkideric

Well, I installed the update. I have been working in Pro Tools since this morning, and my MC Mix just crashed as I was looking at gearslutz. Also, I am now having problems getting it to scroll thru banks. Anyone else having this problem?

Yep - worked great for the day, then it all kinda fell apaprt. Same software, no new apps istalled, what gives? I'll try re-insatlling the 1.1.1 update again, in case something 'fell off' software-wise....

[midnightsun]

If your Protools setup is too stable and you are stuck just having to be creative or you have no excuse for not being creative, rush out and buy a Euphonix MC Mix. You can be sure that you will spend your hours trying to make it work. Some people have had some success. I am slower than most. I have spent over 10 hours with zero success. The lord must think I need a hobby with all this extra time to waste so he brought a MC Mix into my life for me to debug.

[Benedict]

Originally Posted by makinnoize

Yep - worked great for the day, then it all kinda fell apaprt. Same software, no new apps istalled, what gives? I'll try re-insatlling the 1.1.1 update again, in case something 'fell off' software-wise....

Make sure you un-install everything then apply 1.1.1 again.

[stealthmode]

Originally Posted by midnightsun

If your Protools setup is too stable and you are stuck just having to be creative or you have no excuse for not being creative, rush out and buy a Euphonix MC Mix. You can be sure that you will spend your hours trying to make it work. Some people have had some success. I am slower than most. I have spent over 10 hours with zero success. The lord must think I need a hobby with all this extra time to waste so he brought a MC Mix into my life for me to debug.

Actually, it seems like most people are having success now.

[mostlykeys]

Just a quick note for the Nuendo/Cubase users. The new drivers are solid. There is one thing that i had to do before it worked perfect - it's worth a shot if you are having issues. i had to go into the midi setup and disable all of the euphonix ports from the "include in all" section so it doesn't recieve midi info from synths, etc... when they are being used.

Orlando

[midnightsun]

I down loaded v1.1.1 I then uninstalled the previous EuControl software. I then reinstalled "Install EuControl.pkg" I still can't get any indication that the MC Mix is getting any signals from the DAW. I then tried installing the "Install EuCon Workstation.pkg." still no success.

I am wondering if my problem is that I am using a G5. In the file that I down loaded there is a file folder that is entitled Digidesign Databases. What am I supposed to do with this?

Am I missing something obvious? For those of you who are having any success with Euphonix and PT are any of you using a G5?

[ptbarnum]

my MC Control arrived today.
in short, i really like it.
Ask away

[pixelhead]

After buying these when they first came out and re-buying them, I am really happy so far. Everything seems pretty good in Logic. The MC Control is really impressive. I will report back more after I get a night in with these guys.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attac...1&d=1210734716

[d.dot]

Originally Posted by midnightsun

I down loaded v1.1.1 I then uninstalled the previous EuControl software. I then reinstalled "Install EuControl.pkg" I still can't get any indication that the MC Mix is getting any signals from the DAW. I then tried installing the "Install EuCon Workstation.pkg." still no success.

I am wondering if my problem is that I am using a G5. In the file that I down loaded there is a file folder that is entitled Digidesign Databases. What am I supposed to do with this?

Am I missing something obvious? For those of you who are having any success with Euphonix and PT are any of you using a G5?

Did you add Pro Tools in the Euphonix Systems Preferences Control panel? I initially missed this. Afterwards PT was all good.

[jho]

Looks cool.

Are there a lot more functions on the MC Control related to Pro Tools than on the MC Mix?

[midnightsun]

Originally Posted by d.dot

Did you add Pro Tools in the Euphonix Systems Preferences Control panel? I initially missed this. Afterwards PT was all good.

Yes, I did that step.

Also, with the latest download there are a number of possible items to install-- Install EuControl, Install EuCon Workstation, Digidesign Database. Does anyone understand what the differences are?

[digiot]

OK so I just picked up an MC Control hoping it would actually work. I cant seem to get it stable in Protools 7.4cs4. Installed the latest drivers and firmware (clean install never loaded any other versions). On first launch all seemed to work until I tried to control some plug-ins. Now the Eucon App. just keeps quitting on me. The only way I can get Protools to see it again is by restarting the computer. It seems to not crash in Logic but after some crashes in ProTools I cant seem to be able to control the plug-ins in Logic anymore?? They worked before.
I'll beat it up some more tomorrow and post my findings.

G5 Dual 2G OSX 10.4.9
PT 7.4cs4 HD
Logic 8.0.1
DP 5.1.3
MC Control 1.1.1

[jhsign]

Originally Posted by midnightsun

Yes, I did that step.

Also, with the latest download there are a number of possible items to install-- Install EuControl, Install EuCon Workstation, Digidesign Database. Does anyone understand what the differences are?

The Digidesign Databases folder is something that protools has created....it has seen the EuControl disk image as a drive and has created a database for it....you can completely ignore this.....and you can see this if you quit protools and then mount a newly downloaded Euphonix disk image...the Digidesign databases folder will no longer be there.

As far as the others go......from my understanding the Install EuControl is the only one you want to install.....the Eucon Workstation is for installing software that allows a second workstation to communicate with the MC Mix....therefore you should only really install that on a second system.

Please someone correct me if I'm wrong here!

J

[Benedict]

Originally Posted by pixelhead

After buying these when they first came out and re-buying them, I am really happy so far. Everything seems pretty good in Logic. The MC Control is really impressive. I will report back more after I get a night in with these guys.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attac...1&d=1210734716

They look really pretty together :)

[MeloManiac]

Originally Posted by midnightsun

Yes, I did that step.

Also, with the latest download there are a number of possible items to install-- Install EuControl, Install EuCon Workstation, Digidesign Database. Does anyone understand what the differences are?

EuCon Workstation is only if you want to control another workstation (computer) with the MC Mix/Control, as I understand it. It's described better in the manual I am sure.

[digiot]

Just spend another couple of hours with the MC Control. All seemed to work after uninstalling and re-installing the software. Then I started editing a Protools session not even touching the MC Control and after about an hour the Eucon App. crashed out. I didn't even touch the MC for about an hour while I was editing!!! However this time around it did let me re-launch Eucon Control without having to restart the computer. So lets see if it crashes again without me touching it.

Erlin

[ptbarnum]

For the logic users,
I've been working with the mc control since yesterday with zero hiccups

[sevendaysoff]

damn this seems like a nightmare for you guys. maybe euphonix should have ironed this thing out a tad better before they released. a few bugs are acceptable but this has been ongoing for a couple months or more now.

hats off to all of you brave, patient, full price paying beta testers.

[pixelhead]

So after an evening with these things I have to say they got this stuff working really well. I mixed a song in logic and it went without a hitch. I did some stuff in pro tools and also worked as advertised. Editing plugs with the control is really cool. I am really excited to see where all this goes.

I do still wish they would come out with a C|24 style system for more of a wow factor in the studio. Customers will look at these and think they are more of a toy than the Mackies. At least the Mackies when put together looked like a board. I think it would be pretty simple, all the R&D is done. All they need to do is spread things out a bit and add a real meter bridge. Eleborate on the master section a little. and put a 5 to 10k price tag on it and they are done. If they dont I may look into doing my own, hell I would pay Euphonix 10 grand to have a one off done. Call me old (and I am) but I want an aircraft carrier in front of me. I just cant get used to no board as hard as I try.

[yoink]

Originally Posted by pixelhead

So after an evening with these things I have to say they got this stuff working really well. I mixed a song in logic and it went without a hitch. I did some stuff in pro tools and also worked as advertised. Editing plugs with the control is really cool. I am really excited to see where all this goes.

I do still wish they would come out with a C|24 style system for more of a wow factor in the studio. Customers will look at these and think they are more of a toy than the Mackies. At least the Mackies when put together looked like a board. I think it would be pretty simple, all the R&D is done. All they need to do is spread things out a bit and add a real meter bridge. Eleborate on the master section a little. and put a 5 to 10k price tag on it and they are done. If they dont I may look into doing my own, hell I would pay Euphonix 10 grand to have a one off done. Call me old (and I am) but I want an aircraft carrier in front of me. I just cant get used to no board as hard as I try.

For the price they are hard to beat though, for about 5500 you can get 32+4 faders and a touch screen interface that's pretty quick and well integrated into logic. Their own MC Pro is about 12-15K$ and while it does come with motorized joysticks (yummy for Surround panning) and fully programmable buttons, it only comes with 4 Faders at that price point. So you know, sometimes it's fun to have a few small destroyers to give the aircraft carrier a little "talking to." I did enjoy your analogy by the way!

I received word that a "Canadian" shipment of MC Controls is on it's way and should be here next week - possibly sooner - I can't wait.

[pixelhead]

Originally Posted by yoink

For the price they are hard to beat though, for about 5500 you can get 32+4 faders and a touch screen interface that's pretty quick and well integrated into logic. Their own MC Pro is about 12-15K$ and while it does come with motorized joysticks (yummy for Surround panning) and fully programmable buttons, it only comes with 4 Faders at that price point. So you know, sometimes it's fun to have a few small destroyers to give the aircraft carrier a little "talking to." I did enjoy your analogy by the way!

I received word that a "Canadian" shipment of MC Controls is on it's way and should be here next week - possibly sooner - I can't wait.

I agree. They are a great purchase.

I complained about this on GS when they were first introduced and a sales rep from Euphonix called me, which was impressive. He told me if I want a board I should get the MC5 sysyem. We did the math and it came out to 70k for a 24 channel system. A little out of my price range. I do music production and dont need all the stuff that comes on the MC Pro. They can loose the video screen buttons, TFT displays, and the multi colored knobs which are very expensive. All those things are so cool but not needed for the basic music studio.

If we look at the trend of studios. The big guys are closing, the small guys are growing into the next phase, out of the basement into their first commercial facility. Some are doing well enough to warrant spending the dough on an icon or MC5, Most are not. In todays world people are impressed when they walk into a room and see a larger center piece in the middle of the room. In my studio I had the Mackie MCU with 3 expanders and a C4 in a Argosy Desk and every customer walked in and said wow that is really cool. To me it was a big black mouse that helped make my job easier. But it made them feel like they where in a big expensive studio. We all know its about the sound at the end of the day but most customers also want bling factor to help rectify the expense. They all want to put pictures and video on their myspace pages to show everyone they are in the studio. Not some kids basement with a computer screen in front of them and that all.

I always make a point to ask my clients what they like about my studio and they always say it is comfortable and sounds good, but they always say they feel like they in a much more expensive studio. that may mean my prices are too low but I doubt that. I know what market saturation is in my area and I am on par.

So at the end of the day the Artist Series is awesome for the money. I know, I bought it and feel it is worth every penny. kicks the crap out of the Mackies for me. But a middle of the ground system would be great. BRING BACK THE METER BRIDGE!

[drumkideric]

I still can't get my MC Mix to toggle between banks in Pro Tools since I upgraded. Was working fine before. Anyone else experience this? I sent their tech support a message.

[drumkideric]

Wow. I just got a reply from thier Tech Support, within 5-10 minutes. I fixed my problem. I guess you only have to have on instance of HUI running now in PT.

[Killahurts]

Well I got my MC Control today and I'm a little confused as to how I should hook it up via ethernet. I only have the MC Control now, but will be getting 4 of the MC mix soon.

Should I get a dedicated (gigabit) router, and plug it into the second ethernet port on my Mac?

Or, do I just plug into my LAN network via the multi-port gigabit switch I already have the computer plugged into? This would be using the router that feeds my whole LAN via DHCP.

I guess for now since I only have the Control, I can plug right into the computer's second port- or not...

But what about when the rest is delivered? This whole system will be about 40 feet away from the computer which is in my machine room. Do I put a dedicated router in the CR and then run one CAT6 to the MR to that second port, or run 5 CAT6 cables to the existing switch, also in the MR?
Hmmm.

[davidd]

Originally Posted by Killahurts

Well I got my MC Control today and I'm a little confused as to how I should hook it up via ethernet. I only have the MC Control now, but will be getting 4 of the MC mix soon.

Should I get a dedicated (gigabit) router, and plug it into the second ethernet port on my Mac?
Do I put a dedicated router in the CR and then run one CAT6 to the MR to that second port, or run 5 CAT6 cables to the existing switch, also in the MR?
Hmmm.

Both should work well.
I would choose a dedicated router to avoid 5 CAT6 á 40 feet.

David

[Killahurts]

Thanks David.

I was reading the paper manual before, there seems to be much more info in the docs on the software CD, so all is good.

Apparently, I have to move my LAN connection to ethernet port 2 if I want to setup the MC with it's own router, as it must be on port 1.

That's why I wanted to start out by just hooking it up to my existing switch, but that would add another layer of troubleshooting if I run into problems, so...

When I get it working, I'm going to try it with Logic, DP, and FCP.

[dkatz42]

Originally Posted by davidd

Both should work well.
I would choose a dedicated router to avoid 5 CAT6 á 40 feet.

David

Presumably what people actually want is an L2 switch, not an IP router. Different beasts.

[davidd]

Originally Posted by dkatz42

Presumably what people actually want is an L2 switch, not an IP router. Different beasts.

I presume that you are right, as my network knowledge is pretty basic..
What I can tell is that it does work with a router...

David

[sweetmojo]

Originally Posted by pixelhead

I agree. They are a great purchase.

I complained about this on GS when they were first introduced and a sales rep from Euphonix called me, which was impressive. He told me if I want a board I should get the MC5 sysyem. We did the math and it came out to 70k for a 24 channel system. A little out of my price range. I do music production and dont need all the stuff that comes on the MC Pro. They can loose the video screen buttons, TFT displays, and the multi colored knobs which are very expensive. All those things are so cool but not needed for the basic music studio.

If we look at the trend of studios. The big guys are closing, the small guys are growing into the next phase, out of the basement into their first commercial facility. Some are doing well enough to warrant spending the dough on an icon or MC5, Most are not. In todays world people are impressed when they walk into a room and see a larger center piece in the middle of the room. In my studio I had the Mackie MCU with 3 expanders and a C4 in a Argosy Desk and every customer walked in and said wow that is really cool. To me it was a big black mouse that helped make my job easier. But it made them feel like they where in a big expensive studio. We all know its about the sound at the end of the day but most customers also want bling factor to help rectify the expense. They all want to put pictures and video on their myspace pages to show everyone they are in the studio. Not some kids basement with a computer screen in front of them and that all.

I always make a point to ask my clients what they like about my studio and they always say it is comfortable and sounds good, but they always say they feel like they in a much more expensive studio. that may mean my prices are too low but I doubt that. I know what market saturation is in my area and I am on par.

So at the end of the day the Artist Series is awesome for the money. I know, I bought it and feel it is worth every penny. kicks the crap out of the Mackies for me. But a middle of the ground system would be great. BRING BACK THE METER BRIDGE!

100% with you on this! Hoping that Euphonix will listen to our requests and come up with something like that. It would be awesome!

In the meantime, I think the MC Mix / MC Control stuff in a nice custom desk (or an Argosy) still looks killer and does have that "expensive/large studio" look.

[sweetmojo]

Hey, does anyone know if the Mc Mix would work with a G4? Looking to get one to try but haven't upgraded the computer yet