ProFire 2626

[Dean7]

Originally Posted by drumkideric

No, it only works with 7.4. You will have to upgrade to use it with PT.

And specifically ProTools 7.4 cs3.

[RobDrmz]

I just ordered my PROFIRE and can't wait to record and post the grooves on the FW1814 shootout for everyone.

QUESTION: Anyone use the Phantom power function to record with high end mics? I have a thick mic locker & I want to record directly into the 2626. Will the Phantom power output be strong enough?

Thanks!

[Dean7]

Originally Posted by RobDrmz

I just ordered my PROFIRE and can't wait to record and post the grooves on the FW1814 shootout for everyone.

QUESTION: Anyone use the Phantom power function to record with high end mics? I have a thick mic locker & I want to record directly into the 2626. Will the Phantom power output be strong enough?

Thanks!

I've never heard of a device with phantom power not being "strong enough" so I'm not sure I understand your question, but if it helps I've been recording with a stereo pair of KSM 32s with no problems.

-Dean

[Branislav]

Originally Posted by Dean7

I've never heard of a device with phantom power not being "strong enough"

Tried SM PRO ADA192 with Oktava 01 - no problems, but when I tried Bruner Phantom V, it showed no signs of life, I panicked thinking that it died, fortunately I connected it to a mixer and it came to life again. Conclusion - phantom powering on ADA192 was week and when more power was needed, it couldnt supply, the voltage droped to a level that was unusable for Brauner.

Branislav

[Dean7]

Originally Posted by Branislav

Tried SM PRO ADA192 with Oktava 01 - no problems, but when I tried Bruner Phantom V, it showed no signs of life, I panicked thinking that it died, fortunately I connected it to a mixer and it came to life again. Conclusion - phantom powering on ADA192 was week and when more power was needed, it couldnt supply, the voltage droped to a level that was unusable for Brauner.

Branislav

Interesting. That's the first report of something like that I've heard.

Anyway, like I said, I think the 2626 is OK because I've been powering 2 KSM32s for a while with no problems.

-Dean

[RobDrmz]

I couldn't power my BLUEBIRD, or my PULSAR II's with my 1814 although my Sputnik works fine(it has it's own pre)

So if this doesn't work what is my recourse then? Buy a mixer?

Any news from M-audio on the use of multiple powered mics on the PROFIRE 2626?

Can it power all of these mics?

[Branislav]

Originally Posted by RobDrmz

So if this doesn't work what is my recourse then?

External box for phantom powering can be an option.

Branislav

[JonesH]

Alot of low-class manufacturers do not supply +48 V. Since most IC:s run on 12-18 volts and most mics actually can run on very low voltages, some manufacturers don't bother to make a separate power supply for 48 volts and tap off the IC rail instead.
This leads to some mics having lower headroom, some emits buzzing and then some refuses to work at all .

I do not know - haven't measured - what the PF2626 delivers yet. I've made a lot of recordings with the PF2626 but I've mostly used Milennia preamps, although I used the ProFire pres on the last recording I did to power our Neumann TLM50's. Worked perfectly fine.

I'll add either measuring the phantom power or testing it with 8 mics at the same time.

[RobDrmz]

Thanks!

If you could do that you would save me & M-Audio a lot of trouble.

Any ideas Ray?

[stingray1122]

Any news from M-audio on the use of multiple powered mics on the PROFIRE 2626?

During our design testing we connected 8 LDC microphones to a single 2626 with phantom power and all worked. We specified the unit to work with a wide variety of microphones. I don't see any reason why there would be problems but different microphones may provide different results.

I hope this helps,

RayT

[Yung]

okay i just got mine in but whats up with the drivers not working on my system?? i have win xp sp3 and its saying that my operating system isnt supported by the profire 2626????

[shamus109]

Does anyone know If I would be able to rig this up to my digi 003 to give me a total of 12 pre amps?

[Yung]

okay i figured out that it couldnt run with sp3 and unistalled it and installed the driver....now i cantget my comp to recognize the 2626??

i plug it into my ports and no sign of any new hardware??? any ideas? had the thing all day havent even got one sound out of it

[Fuseburn]

The earlier press announcements of the unit all over the web claim that you can chain 2 of them, resulting in 52 I/O. Anyone tested this yet ? Or has this been cancelled ?
Now THAT would be killer...

[joemeek]

Originally Posted by Fuseburn

The earlier press announcements of the unit all over the web claim that you can chain 2 of them, resulting in 52 I/O. Anyone tested this yet ? Or has this been cancelled ?
Now THAT would be killer...

I´d like to know as well!!!
i´d be tooo good...

[jbsg02]

Originally Posted by shamus109

Does anyone know If I would be able to rig this up to my digi 003 to give me a total of 12 pre amps?

I haven't tried it but also works as a standalone preamp/AD converter and you can use the ADAT outs into your 003

[Yung]

well got it up and running on my comp as a sound card alone but for some reason protools isnt recognizing it as hardware... any ideas

[Yung]

got everything up and running and its sounds alot better than i was expecting really set its self away from the other m-audio products that i have owned..

[theaero]

I have been going crazy trying to figure this out.

I have a mac pro 2008 8-core machine running windows XP Pro via bootcamp and I desperately need to get my profire 2626 working in XP. IT works fine in OSX but in XP the drivers install but i get a code 10, device cannot start error. It is critical I get it working in boot camp. I have tried so many things. I have fresh installs of both OSX and Xp so if anyone can help me out at all I would love them forever.

[BLINKeR182]

got a little question for os x users.

Can it be used live with Apple stage or Logic with really really low latency?

(first post :P)

[shamus109]

Originally Posted by jbsg02

I haven't tried it but also works as a standalone preamp/AD converter and you can use the ADAT outs into your 003

Yes but shouldn't you be able to hook them up through the optical ports as well?

[glitch]

Originally Posted by RobDrmz

I couldn't power my BLUEBIRD, or my PULSAR II's with my 1814 although my Sputnik works fine(it has it's own pre)

So if this doesn't work what is my recourse then? Buy a mixer?

Any news from M-audio on the use of multiple powered mics on the PROFIRE 2626?

Can it power all of these mics?

The Sputnik does not have its own pre - it has its own power supply and does not require phantom power. The other two use phantom power which the 1814 provides. Is your phantom light coming on when the switch is engaged?

The PF26 seems to put out the proper 48V phantom. The 1884 should as well.

[glitch]

Originally Posted by shamus109

Yes but shouldn't you be able to hook them up through the optical ports as well?

You're talking about the exact same thing. Optical, ADAT, Toslink - all the same (although optical can also be used as a 2 channel S/PDIF connection).

[glitch]

Originally Posted by LeyvaR

I am also wondering how the 2626 compares to the ProjectMix. The controller is nice but at this time I'm trying to get a good signal in that I can afford and still use my PT M-Powered. Either way I know I need to also get a good tube pre, but that's a whole other can of beans. Anybody's experience comparing the PF 2626 and the PM I/O would be much appreciated.

The PMIO is not on the same level of quality as the PF26 as far as conversion. Pres are similar.

I had a PMIO that I used for a while simply as a controller. It did a good job there. I also piped ADAT to and from it whenever I had to use PTMP.

[RobDrmz]

Glitch -

To answer your question, Yes my phantom power light does turn on but neither mic will work. I have not been able to trouble shoot them on another desk yet, but my beta 52 works and other AT & Shure mics.

Just no life from the Bluebird or the Pulsar's. Soon I will have my Profire & give'r a go.

[glitch]

Originally Posted by RobDrmz

Glitch -

To answer your question, Yes my phantom power light does turn on but neither mic will work. I have not been able to trouble shoot them on another desk yet, but my beta 52 works and other AT & Shure mics.

Just no life from the Bluebird or the Pulsar's. Soon I will have my Profire & give'r a go.

The Beta 52 and mics like that don't use phantom, so they should work fine. Perhaps your unit is defective. Have you checked your XLR cables?

Anyway, the PF26 is a big step up.

[Fuseburn]

Originally Posted by Fuseburn

The earlier press announcements of the unit all over the web claim that you can chain 2 of them, resulting in 52 I/O. Anyone tested this yet ? Or has this been cancelled ?
Now THAT would be killer...

M-Audio Support replied that neither the hardware unit nor the driver are able to handle 2 daisy-chained units. It's not even sure that this feature is planned or even technically possible.

Strange. Google search for "profire 2626 chain" gives you lots of results where this has been explicitely (pre)-announced...
Sad, big show stopper for me (48 channels live recording required). So I guess I'll stick with the Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 (up to 3 units/78 i/o).
What about Presonus Firestudio and chaining ? Heard rumours about that too...

[nightscope]

I got one of these today. So far it is dead from the neck up, and down. Drivers are obviously garbage. Tho I have them installed correctly they will not find the connected hardware. TI firewire chipset on my PC, XP SP2, everything done by the book, no conflicts, no hotplugging. Drivers installed and uninstalled 5 times.

You gotta laugh. Loada junk.

ns

[Yung]

Originally Posted by nightscope

I got one of these today. So far it is dead from the neck up, and down. Drivers are obviously garbage. Tho I have them installed correctly they will not find the connected hardware. TI firewire chipset on my PC, XP SP2, everything done by the book, no conflicts, no hotplugging. Drivers installed and uninstalled 5 times.

You gotta laugh. Loada junk.

ns

Yea i thought tha same thing.... goto digidesign and get the updated version of protools... should be ptmp 7.4cs5 (if your protools doesnt read that. thats your problem.) turn off the comp. unplug the 2626 turn the comp back on install the new driver from m-audio. when it ask to shut down after its done installing the driver accept it and while the comp is off plug the 2626 in and turn it on. Now turn on the comp and it should work.

The 2626 has been real soild for me so far now that i have got it up and have been able to mess with a few new projects.

[nightscope]

Originally Posted by Yung

.... goto digidesign and get the updated version of protools...

Hi Yung,

Erm, what's protools?

I'm gonna get a priest in to say a prayer.

ns