music after 2012?

[lozion]

Originally Posted by mac black

I think that 2012 will start a new chapter in the human race ...

Yes, I do too...

[sonicdefault]

Careful. This is the potential side effect of setting prophetic dates.


-SD

[lozion]

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

Careful. This is the potential side effect of setting prophetic dates.


-SD

Didnt know Johnny Carson made prophecies...

[bcgood]

Music

* "A Certain Shade of Green," a song from the Incubus album S.C.I.E.N.C.E., references 2012 in the following lines: Are you gonna stand around till 2012 A.D.? / What are you waiting for, a certain shade of green?. December 21, 2012 also appears to be the date when the video for the song "Warning" is supposed to take place.
* Genesis's song Get'em Out By Friday from their 1972 album Foxtrot, sets "18/9/2012" (on the printed operistic-dialog lyrics) as the date when "Genetic Control" would set a height restriction on human beings so that twice as many people could fit on real estate properties.
* "Pesky Solar Flares", by Angie Strange has lyrics relating to coronal mass ejections occurring during the Winter Solstice of 2012. The song was available as a free download on the website of the popular American conspiracy talk radio show Coast To Coast Am.
* The Hed PE song "I.F.O." (to be found on their second, self-titled album), which is about UFO sightings and governmental conspiracies to cover them up, references the year 2012: "Prepare to meet your maker in the skies over the pyramids / Check Stonehenge / Go ask the Mayans / 2012 soon come / I will be waitin' sayin' I told you so / When the skies are ripped open / And the mothership lands on your cynical ass". HED PE also references 2012 in "Killing Time" from their second album "Broke". come Twenty Twelve, come twelve tribes, come twelve strands, come twelve lives Twelve steps, twelve months, twelve drug dealers
* Stones Throw Records artist Dudley Perkins released his LP, entitled 'Expressions (2012 A.U.)', in 2006
* The instrumental song "December 21, 2012" by Frodus, which appears as a B-side to their best-selling 7" vinyl single of their Devo cover "Explosions" (Released 1997).
* The Anaal Nathrakh song "Timewave Zero" is about the apparent end of the world on December 21, 2012. The lyrics are translated as "The 21st Of December, 2012, The time will come"
* The A Day To Remember song "Fast Forward to 2012" refers to the world ending in 2012 as a warning for friends to do something to prepare.
* British nu-rave outfit Klaxons sing about apocalyptic horsemen in their song "Four Horsemen Of 2012" from the 2007 album Myths of the Near Future.
* The song "2012 — Demise of the 5th Sun" by the melodic death metal band Scar Symmetry is a reference to the year 2012. "For the lines on the fractal wave / Fit the course of history / They're created to work as one till the end / When the winter solstice comes / Actualizing the prophecy / The demise in 2012 realized"
* The Testament song "3 Days in Darkness", off of The Gathering album is a song about 2012, and speaks of the earth being swallowed in molten fire.
* VNV Nation's album Praise The Fallen" has the subtitle "PTF 2012", which is also the name of a track in the album, which seems to be predominantly about an upcoming war. The song, "Honour" starts with the line, "Passive fields, January 2012..."
* Heavy metal band Burnt By The Sun's two albums both deal with prophecies concerning the year 2012.
* "2012" is the name of the 2005 album by the experimental rock band Old Time Relijun, and several songs make references to ancient Mayan culture, such as "Burial Mound" and "The King of Lost Light."
* On the band Hella's album There's No 666 in Outer Space there is a track called "2012 and Countless" in which the only words are "There's no 666 in Outer Space" repeated.
* Metal band Ewigkeit's album Radio Ixtlan has a track entitled "Live at Palenque 2012" referencing both the Mayan calendar date and the site at which the Temple of Inscriptions where it is carved.
* Canibus mentions the year 2012 and December 21, 2012 on his Poet Laureate Infinity vocals and on his 2007 album For Whom the Beat Tolls.
* Industrial metal band Hanzel und Gretyl's fifth album is called 2012: Zwanzig Zwölf referencing the belief that the world will end in this year, as foretold in the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar.

[lordmiguel]

the future will have no wii
i saw it on the tele vision.
Laser 7 Output - Clips - South Park Studios

[tonymite]

Originally Posted by theGeek

I hope I remember this thread in 4 years when this doesn't happen so I can laugh at all of you!

errrr - ever seen the matrix ?

[Ironklad Audio]

soooooooooo...a bunch of bands singing about 2012 means that the world's gonna end then?

[TheRealRoach]

So apparently the age of Aquarius doesn't start until the year 2654AD. The age of Pisces started in the year 498AD. But apparently the "strength" the the astrological age is most strongly felt 500 to 800 years before the start of a new age since you are approaching it, as opposed to moving away (like we are with Pisces).

One thing is for sure, Astrology, whether you subscribe or not, requires intense study and is extremely complicated... the daily horoscopes in newspapers, for example, reduce it to a laughably simplified and generalized form. And conversely, to be able to pull some useful/quantifiable predictions from astrology is about as difficult as working out some formula to analyze a song based on its notes, its rhythms, its harmonies, its sonic character, its style, its mixing approach, the playback volume, its members, the current status quo, the time of day recorded, etc.... to determine, with certainty, that it will be a hit.

So... it's pretty damn unlikely that astrology - or religion, or other mystical beliefs for that matter - have any sort of reliable power in predicting any specific future events. Astrology is good for a kick every now and then. It's got good entertainment value.

[bcgood]

Vanishing Bee Colonies

Albert Einstein once said : “If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man.”

Apocalyptic for sure. We haven’t reached that point yet, but some worrisome indicators suggest dramatic drops in the bee population of the US are likely to impact crop production. This is not a small agricultural sector that is being impacted either. In the US bees pollinate more than $14 billion worth of seeds and crops each year.

The disappearing bee phenomena isn’t restricted to the US. In Europe countries are experiencing varying degrees of what investigators describe as “colony collapse disorder” (or CCD). Countries effected include Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece. However the most serious losses have occurred in the US. On the West Coast keepers have seen bee population losses in the 30 to 60 percent range. On the East Coast and Texas it gets as high as 70%. These are catastrophic drops for an industry that considers around a 20% population decline to be an off-season norm.

There are a number of different theories about why this is happening. After looking at a cross-section of scientific opinion I tend toward the view that the decline in the bee population is being triggered by a variety of factors, rather than a single overriding cause.

There is evidence that the immune system of bees has been adversely effected by modern agricultural practices. These range from use of insecticides to the controlled raising of bees in order to have an army of pollinators ready to service crops on schedule. Some researchers take the view that genetically modified crops are a contributing factor in bee population decline. Stress figures into it too, given that increased pressure is being placed on colonies as their habitat is squeezed each year due to urban development. Parasites are also an issue. The varroa mite introduced from Asia has proved to be problematic.

The decline in the health of the colonies can be demonstrated by research data. You know the problem has reached crisis levels when a guy like Dennis van Englesdorp with the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture uses an Aids analogy in an attempt to underscore the seriousness of the threat to bee populations.

Researchers have discovered multiple infections co-existing in some colonies, many of which were also infected with fungi, an indicator that the bees’ immune systems were seriously compromised. This compromised immune function may be related to genetically modified crops and scientists are currently working to try to determine any possible links. When you look at the stats though, on the surface there does seem to be a generalized cause and effect pattern. In the US, which has experienced the most severe bee losses, 40% of the corn is now a GM insect-resistant strain. By contrast in Germany we are only talking about 0.06%, mostly grown in the Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania and Brandenburg regions.

A number of earlier studies investigated whether or not GM crops were having a negative impact on bees. One such study took place at the University of Jenna from 2001 to 2004. The researchers used a GM maize variant named “BT corn” that includes a gene from a soil bacterium in order to make it insect-proof. At first the study seemed entirely positive. No discernible negative effects were detected in the bees from the BT corn. Then researchers discovered that when the bees were attacked by a parasite, the portion of the colony exposed to the BT corn had a much lower ability to fight off infection and showed much more rapid levels of decline.

There is a second set of factors though that raises concerns about quantum-mechanical effects related to magnetic fields and electromagnetic waves. The majority of losses have been occurring as a result of bees being unable to navigate back to their hives. Bees have been expiring singly, in a seemingly disoriented state far from the hive and this can’t simply be attributed to immune system issues.

There are two possible causes. One being our high-tech gadgetry, particularly mobile phone technology. The other cause odd though it may seem, relates to so-called “sunspots” - the effect of solar activity.

At first glance it seems a bit far-fetched to make a connection between the life of bees and mobile phones. However research suggests there may indeed be something to this theory. German research has determined that bees showed a marked change of behavior when in the vicinity of power lines, and a study conducted at Landau University found that bees avoided returning to the hive when mobile phones were placed nearby.

A study by the mathematician Barbara Shipman, provides one of the more fascinating … one might even say ‘esoteric’ theories. A critical aspect of bee activity hinges obviously upon finding pollen sources and returning to the hive. According to Ms Shipman this routine is facilitated by the dance the bees perform. She indicates that the dance is influenced by factors such as the polarization of the light of the sun and variations in the earth’s magnetic field.

She goes further though and suggests bees are capable of identifying quarks. I think it’s a leap to suggest that bees can ‘perceive’ the quantum field or even use it as a type of frame of reference. My hunch is that their activity is pretty much instinctual, based upon their highly specialized circuitry. Questions about whether or not they can perceive quarks seems almost a moot point, especially since there is no way of proving it.

Where the sunspot theory does hold up is that bees appear to be very sensitive to energy fluctuations. One study exposed a colony to bursts from a high-intensity magnetic field and concluded that the bees’ reactions revealed a high sensitivity to nuclear magnetic resonance, or NMR. This occurs when an electromagnetic wave alters the orientation of the nuclei of atoms.

Some scientists take the view that the next solar maximum may be one of the most intense ever. Mausumi Dikpati, an astronomer with the National Center for Atmospheric Research predicts a solar maximum for 2012, a phenomena that last occurred in 1958. The sunspot generates intense magnetism that can be felt on the earth. Dikpati even believes that it is possible electronics will be effected, for example GPS and mobile phone technology. Since solar cycle 24 began in 2007 according to Mausumi’s estimate, it’s possible that the behavior of bees is already being effected to some degree.

The dramatic declines in the bee population appear to be due to a combination of factors. Insecticides, crop engineering, shrinking habitats and parasites have impacted the overall health and immune system of bees. The other factor contributing to bee decline relates most probably to side-effects of technology and solar activity.

[bcgood]

THE PLEIADES TO THE MAYANS

One of the important associations made with the movement of the stars of the Pleiades is that of time-keeping. Many calendar systems utilized the positions of the Pleiades, some agricultural and some sacred. Every 52-years a celebration in Mesoamerica was timed to when the Pleiades were directly overhead at midnight.

The Pleiades were used to orient many sacred sites. The pyramid and temple complex of Teotihuacan, near Mexico City, is an example of a site oriented to where the Pleiades set along the horizon. The temples in Greece and Ancient Egypt were oriented in space to these stars. The Great Pyramid at Giza is also said to have been built in alignment with the Pleiades. Many temples, stone circles and other rock formations in Polynesia and numerous other places on the planet indicate Pleiadian alignments.

During the peak period of Mayan civilization 300 to 800 AD, the Pleiades passed directly overhead of the ceremonial temples of Tikal (17°N13') and Palenque (17°30'), every day. In the late 900s, Chichén Itzá it is reported that this site was "reactivated" by the historical Quetzalcoatl. Not only the Pleiades passed directly over this site, but the star called Maia passed directly over the zenith of Chichén Itzá (20°N41'). The passage of the Pleiades over the Yucatan no longer occurred by the time the Spanish arrived in the 1500s.

Starting about the middle of May the Sun is aligned between the Earth and the stars of the Pleiades. The Sun is astrologically conjunct these stars at this time. The stars of the Pleiades are not visible at any time of the night during this time of the year due to their close proximity to the Sun. The Pleiades are visible and can be seen rising at dawn staring about ten days later around June 1 and is called the heliacal rising of the Pleiades. This time period is regarded as sacred to those who honor Pleiadian cycles.

The 5000-year Mayan calendar cycle ends in 2012, the same year as a Venus passage through the stars of the Pleiades. Also in 2012, on May 20, there will be a solar eclipse astrologically conjunct the stars of the Pleiades. This alignment will be of the Sun and the Moon between the Earth and the stars of the Pleiades. See: All About 2012

It is said that our spiritual guidance comes from this area of the stars - - - The Pleiades.

[bcgood]

[bcgood]

Maybe some of you have heard of The Web Bot Project, but for those of you who have not, it's quite intriguing.

The Web Bot Project, developed in the late 1990's, was created to assist in making stock market predictions.

The technology uses a system of spiders to crawl the Internet and search for keywords, much like a search engine does. When a keyword is located, the bot program takes a snapshot of the text preceding and following the keyword. This snapshot of text is sent to a central location where it is then filtered to define meaning.

The projects concept is aimed at tapping into the "collective unconscious" of the universe and it's inhabitants. As well, there is an interesting time concept involved and an unusual concept of a "tipping point" regarding the past, current, and future times. It goes a bit deeper than viewing what those of us on the Internet are saying.

But in 2001, bot operators began to notice that stock market predictions were not the only matters being accurately predicted by the program. They began to take notice of coincidence with occurrences and explored it further.

One of the first accurate predictions from the bot program took place in June of 2001. The program predicted that a life altering event would take place within the next 60-90 days. An occurrence of such proportion that it's effects would be felt worldwide. The program based it's prediction on "web chatter" which ultimately represents the collective unconscious of society.

Regrettably, the bot program's prediction proved accurate and the Twin Towers fell on 9/11/2001.

Here's where it starts to become very interesting. The bot program also predicts a worldwide calamity taking place in the year 2012. For those of you who study astrology, prophecies, and the like, you may already be familiar with this date.

The Mayans were considered by many as great "seers" and built a society that focused it's studies on time, synchronicity, and consciousness. The Mayan calendar predicts that mankind will end in the year 2012. A period which also signifies the end of the current era in the Mayan calendar. But this end may represent a symbolic end - more so than a literal end. An end that refers to a shift in consciousness, such as a societal shift into a spiritual age from a scientific one.

Many have derived similar predictions from the I Ching or China's "Book of Changes." The I Ching was written in 2800 B.C. and is revered to this day in China. A gentlemen by the name of Terrence McKenna studied the I Ching intensely and began to see a pattern emerging. From that pattern he produced a time line graph and called it the "Time Wave Zero" theory.

Terrence's time line derived from the I Ching ended in the year 2012 - December 21, 2012 to be exact. The winter solstice.

Even more intriguing is the fact that many suggest that there is scientific evidence that points to a very rare astrological occurrence taking place the year of 2012. For millenia, the Mayans believed in the existence of a dark rift in the center of the Milky Way and considered it fact. Only recently did modern scientists discover that it actually does exist.

Many exist, however, in the center of our galaxy is a black hole. And in the year 2012, it is suggested that the sun and the earth will be in direct alignment with this black hole. Scientist speculate that magnetic shifts could take place as a result. In essence, it is theorized that the poles could reverse. The poles have shifted before and Einstein, himself, had suggested this pole shifting theory in 1955.

And I'm sure many of you have heard of Merlin the magician. Merlin was believed to be a Celtic shaman that many of his day considered a "crazed man of the forest." As a result, during those times he was referred to as "Merlin the Wild." But what many don't realize is that Merlin was considered Europe's greatest oracle or "seer."

Merlin predicted that the planets will "run riot" through the constellations. Completely off their normal paths of rotation. Scientists speculate that if this were to happen, it would be a result of the earth changing it's rotation - or the poles shifting.

Merlin also predicted that the use of "talking stones" would be taking place during this time. For those of you who don't know, stone is the basis of our modern technology. Quartz in particular. Quartz technology is used in cell phones as well as computers. Silicone quartz stores information that can then be retrieved.

Another interesting side note to this, that I will be discussing in an upcoming post, is the use of quartz by the Mayans. The Mayans coveted what were known as the crystal skulls. Skulls carved from natural quartz crystal. They claimed the skulls "talked" to them and gave them information. Could it be that they actually did? Based on our knowledge of the capabilities of quartz crystal and it's uses for technology - it seems quite possible. Hewlett Packard studied the skulls in 1970 and their results were startling.

The oldest tribe in the United States, the Hopi Indian tribe, believed that the world has been created and destroyed four times previously. The Hopi's believe that we are on the brink of the Fifth World. They predicted that this occurrence would be preceded by submersion (rising waters), the sun getting hotter (global warming), and earth occurrences (hurricane's, tornadoes, and mass flooding).

The Hopi's also predicted that the world at this time would be criss-crossed by a spider web, which could be likened to the Internet. They believed that the end of the Fourth World would be followed by the beginning of the Fifth World. The evolution of life requires violence.

Seems that these beliefs are in line with the predictions made from one of the greatest book of prophecies ever written - the Bible. And the Book of Revelations, in particular.

[lozion]

Keep it up bc, you're doing good...

Another piece of the puzzle: St-Malachie's Papal prophecy... We're at the second to last Pope, signifying the coming end of the clergy... in about 2012...

Or the 3rd Fatima secret, a vision of dead priests, prelats & the pope himself...

[audiovisceral]

Originally Posted by lozion

Yes, I do too...

i think 2008 will be the beginning of a new chapter for mankind. bush is leaving the white house.

[bcgood]

[stevelindsay]

oh dear....I think Gear Slutz has morphed into Seer Glutz..... can't there be a pre-amp shootout in there somewhere at the end of the world?

[bcgood]

http://www.neverrain.com/mixes/EricJ...bruary2008.mp3

[nandi]

oh dear....I think Gear Slutz has morphed into Seer Glutz..... can't there be a pre-amp shootout in there somewhere at the end of the world?

It's interesting to hear what sources you'll be recording then...

[dropblacksky]

My friend still owes me $100 from our bet about the world ending in 1996... any takers on 2012?

[lordmiguel]

Originally Posted by dropblacksky

My friend still owes me $100 from our bet about the world ending in 1996... any takers on 2012?

totally, an infinite payoff. no downside in losing that bet.

it is nice to know who are the kool aid mixologists are here.

they should put their enthusiasm towards a movie like zeitgiest

or maybe cult leader like jim jones, david koresh, or the new guy on the news michael travesser

[bcgood]

NASA - Solar Storm Warning

[sonicdefault]

Originally Posted by bcgood

NASA - Solar Storm Warning

I think I may have been a victim of solar wind, type activity awhile back. Here's the link to the thread I posted:

Strange Interference From Beyond????


-SD

[Renegade Prod]

YOU ARE A COMPLETE D O U C H E!

I cannot believe i wasted my time reading those 30 words, and now writing another 30 to tell you what a freaken d o u c h e you are, heavy music been in some cases limited to the point of distortion, listen to grindcore, music that like is getting heavier every second, you think it will vanish in one day?

F***K i hate bullshit like this

[bcgood]

Originally Posted by sonicdefault

I think I may have been a victim of solar wind, type activity awhile back. Here's the link to the thread I posted:

Strange Interference From Beyond????


-SD

Yea, I remember reading that thread, interesting.

[allphourus]

Originally Posted by FossilTooth

Numerology is BS. Always has been. Always will be.

However, statistically speaking, we are overdue for both an ice age and an economic depression. They are both cyclical phenomenons the occur with some regularity over the long hall.

I'm sure when we reach our next depression, or our next ice age, some one somewhere will figure out a way in which Nostradamus or the Mayans or whoever "Predicted" it.

BS.

Wake up we are already moving into the next Great Economic Depression

On March 16, 2008, under the supervision of the Federal Reserve, the Bear Stearns company signed a merger agreement with JP Morgan Chase.

In the future historians will site this date as the start.

[allphourus]

Originally Posted by joelpatterson

And will the moon be in the 7th house, and all that?

Shoulder length and longer!

[allphourus]

Originally Posted by Ironklad Audio

there's more holes in your post than a piece of a swiss cheese

i'd start to point them out, but honestly, i have better things to do with my time today

also, the last time i checked, the mayan prediction of the 2012 "apocalypse" was actually a predicted shift in the magnetic poles - which then results in the earth tilting on its axis, which causes re-alignment of the ocean and continents - aka what humans would perceive to be mass chaos and destruction. in reality, this is something that has occured probably more times than we can count over the last 4 billion years, and is something that - if it's going to happen - we have no control over, so there's no use it stressing out over it.

if you really want to be prepared, stock up on food, water, clothing, guns, and ammo...but even that is no guarantee that, if shit is to hit the fan, you're going to be spared.

This is already happening, the earths magnetic field has been weakening steadily for some time now in preparation of. But it will take as much as another 2000 years to complete.

Geomagnetic reversal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or maybe not:

Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field

Well the just sure thats all:

CNN.com - New clues to Earth's magnetic flip-flops - Apr 7, 2004

Even more confusions:
"magnetic deficiency syndrome"

EARTH CHANGES: Magnetic Field Reversal