music after 2012?

[theGeek]

I just think its amazing how pissed people get when someone doesn't think they way they do.

And please explain how the Pyramids were EVER used in navigation?

And where the F!@$ did you pull Lord of the Rings from?

[Ironklad Audio]

you'd have to be one ignorant #@*%p.a to think that for 200,000 years we lived in trees and only in the last 25,000 we have made such advancemets - these advancements occuring in all cultures and every continent ... from native america - to aboriginal australia ...to africa and europe .

see how the " serpant " is mentioned in all cultures and religeons ... roughly at the same time/ period.

note how all cultures climb the fvck outa trees and start developing mentally at the same time - roughly when these pyramids appeared ... you know the ones right around the world - that are built with laser precision - pointing at certain constalations ... so people could navigate around the world.

there's more holes in your post than a piece of a swiss cheese

i'd start to point them out, but honestly, i have better things to do with my time today

also, the last time i checked, the mayan prediction of the 2012 "apocalypse" was actually a predicted shift in the magnetic poles - which then results in the earth tilting on its axis, which causes re-alignment of the ocean and continents - aka what humans would perceive to be mass chaos and destruction. in reality, this is something that has occured probably more times than we can count over the last 4 billion years, and is something that - if it's going to happen - we have no control over, so there's no use it stressing out over it.

if you really want to be prepared, stock up on food, water, clothing, guns, and ammo...but even that is no guarantee that, if shit is to hit the fan, you're going to be spared.

[zooloo]

Won't somebody please think of the children!

[joelpatterson]

Originally Posted by zooloo

Won't somebody please think of the children!

The ones who make a brighter day? You mean them?

[oudplayer]

Originally Posted by Ironklad Audio

also, the last time i checked, the mayan prediction of the 2012 "apocalypse" was actually a predicted shift in the magnetic poles - which then results in the earth tilting on its axis, which causes re-alignment of the ocean and continents - aka what humans would perceive to be mass chaos and destruction. in reality, this is something that has occured probably more times than we can count over the last 4 billion years, and is something that - if it's going to happen - we have no control over, so there's no use it stressing out over it.

if you really want to be prepared, stock up on food, water, clothing, guns, and ammo...but even that is no guarantee that, if shit is to hit the fan, you're going to be spared.

You have your priorities wrong. This is the field recordist's opportunity-of-a-lifetime. Stockpile mics and optical recording devices. The world will never sound the same...

[soupking]

I imagine people will still use overheads.

[loujudson]

"God" is a fiction made up by insecure humans to expalin mysteries and to mollify their children.

Spirit is real, and different for every creature.

Believe nobody and you'll be free!
;-)
L

[tonymite]

Originally Posted by theGeek

I just think its amazing how pissed people get when someone doesn't think they way they do.

And please explain how the Pyramids were EVER used in navigation?

And where the F!@$ did you pull Lord of the Rings from?

I gave you the links

do yourself a favour - and watch them.

if you are not intregued by it - maybe its not the right time for you to be watching and you may be drawn to it at a later stage once your consciousness develops for it.

[theGeek]

ok, I watched them and not only was I absolutely convinced that I'm smarter than William Henry but I was also convinced that for every intelligent person like myself there has to be at least 12 saps that are willing to dump money into a load of BS. Those same people play the lottery and burn dollar bills because they like to watch the fire.

[tonymite]

Originally Posted by Ironklad Audio

there's more holes in your post than a piece of a swiss cheese

i'd start to point them out, but honestly, i have better things to do with my time today

also, the last time i checked, the mayan prediction of the 2012 "apocalypse" was actually a predicted shift in the magnetic poles - which then results in the earth tilting on its axis, which causes re-alignment of the ocean and continents - aka what humans would perceive to be mass chaos and destruction. in reality, this is something that has occured probably more times than we can count over the last 4 billion years, and is something that - if it's going to happen - we have no control over, so there's no use it stressing out over it.

if you really want to be prepared, stock up on food, water, clothing, guns, and ammo...but even that is no guarantee that, if shit is to hit the fan, you're going to be spared.

No apocalypse buddy - those who are prepared will transcend the chaos and ' move ' on ... you guys keep thinking in 3 dimensions .


Just as you can 'tune in' to TV and radio stations .. so are different planes and dimensions... hence some people can see outside the " normal - surpressed ' spectrum an dcommunicate with the spirit world ...

[tonymite]

Originally Posted by loujudson

"God" is a fiction made up by insecure humans to expalin mysteries and to mollify their children.

Spirit is real, and different for every creature.

Believe nobody and you'll be free!
;-)
L

sprit- god- eather - universe - multiverse - energy -

e=mc2 .... name it what you wish ... there is no doubt that consciousness is interconnected ... you want it on a scientific scale refer to those links .

I CBF ...

[boingo81]

Originally Posted by tonymite

No apocalypse buddy - those who are prepared will transcend the chaos and ' move ' on ... you guys keep thinking in 3 dimensions...

Sounds familiar.

[CrankyRayHanky]

Originally Posted by theGeek

And please explain how the Pyramids were EVER used in navigation?

Robert Bauval and Adrian Gilbert (1994) proposed that the three main pyramids at Giza form a pattern on the ground identical to a conjunction of the three belt stars of the Orion constellation. This conjunction, they claimed, was exact, and it occurred precisely at the date 10,450 BC.

The pyramid was used to indicate solstices and equinoxes.

Marks Spring Equinox: Due to the angle of the sides of the pyramid vs. its latitude, it casts no shadow at noon during the spring equinox.

Aligned True North


Center of Land Mass: The Great Pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth. The east/west parallel that crosses the most land and the north/south meridian that crosses the most land intersect in two places on the earth, one in the ocean and the other at the Great Pyramid.

Mean Distance to the Sun

This goes on and on...

[Savernake]

They also realised - and this is true - that after careful analysis, pyramids are in fact, triangle shaped ;)

Will there be people in 100 years talking about google sky like this? And people saying about a 'great prophet George Bush who said there will eventually be peace amongst people and fish?

[mac black]

I think that 2012 will start a new chapter in the human race ...

[audiovisceral]

Originally Posted by theGeek

what are you talking about?

ya really lmfao!!!!!!!!! weirdest thing (prophecy?) i've read in ages.

this thread would make more sense on acid i think ...

[loujudson]

It's really funny how people are starting to notice this. I heard all about it back in the 1970s on New Dimension Radio where i was engineer. There was quite a serious discussion of it in depth at that time, and ever since.

Now even musicians are finding out! Only 30 years later...

I neither believe or disb elieve any of it, it's just interesting to see what people put their attention - both the advocates and the scorners. Who knows what the truth is, and what is fact or fancy. We'll see what 2013 is like!

Lou

[Infernal Device]

A guy I know just put this together after a LONG time researching. What do you think??

In 2012, the government will all combine to form one, kill off a few billion people, worship the earth pagan style, etc etc.

It shows how all of this has started a long time ago, and is in full swing.

Watch it! (I personally do not agree with all of it, but a good watch!)

YouTube - Esoteric Agenda Part 1

[loujudson]

A guy YOU know? Well, it started a very much longer time ago than that! I just did a simple web search, and here are some dates for you:

MAYAN CALENDARS run out in 2012.


This fact isn't nearly as frightening as it sounds! The Mayans kept extremely detailed astronomical records and they followed the cycles of the planets and stars as they travel around in their orbits. We are currently in the 4th cycle recorded by the Maya. It started in 3114B.C. and lasts for 5126 years until 2012. With the end of the 4th cycle comes... the beginning of the 5th cycle. The Maya believe that in the 5th cycle the ancient wisdom of the Maya will be rediscovered by the world and it will be a new dawn for mankind!

"In just 12 years we face another apocalyptic test: the Classic Maya millennium, on December 23, 2012 (based on our Western Gregorian calendar). That's when the Maya calendar will turn over to all zeros ó 13.0.0.0.0 by the long count. (By the way, the Maya use of the zero by at least A.D. 200 is one of their key claims to fame, since the zero was not introduced to the West until the insights of Aryabhata, a fifth-century Indian mathematician, reached Europe.) The Maya millennium comes 5,126 years after the creation, which, by their reckoning, occurred precisely on August 11, 3114 B.C. But we probably shouldn't worry too much about this, since Pacal, the most famous ruler of Palenque, confidently predicted that his accession would be commemorated on October 15 in A.D. 4772 (Gregorian time).
We, like the Maya and probably everyone else, are always trying to predict critical turning points in the future so we will have time to prepare for them. Unfortunately, we're not very good at it. "(W.L. RATHJE, a Senior Editor of Scientific American Discovering Archaeology)


So you see, any and all predictions are modern interpretations of what the Mayans may have said a long time ago. Nobody alive or dead knows what will happen, it is really just a turning of the page like on New Year's Eve - you can make of it whatever you like. But the world will not end, any more than it did on Y2K! Hope it'll be a fun time!

Lou

[Infernal Device]

Originally Posted by loujudson

A guy YOU know?

Yes, a guy I know.

He put research together in a film.

He didn't write the Mayan calendar. I apologize if everyone took that from my post.

It is a film explaining the all of everything has led up to 2012, and that is when the "big plan" happens. The "Super Pentagon" is complete, US currency is invalid, etc etc.

[theGeek]

I hope I remember this thread in 4 years when this doesn't happen so I can laugh at all of you!

[Infernal Device]

Originally Posted by theGeek

I hope I remember this thread in 4 years when this doesn't happen so I can laugh at all of you!

You won't laugh at me. I am just here for the discussion. I have not shown the slightest opinion in the matter. Maybe something will happen, maybe not. I do not hope for one way or the other.

If believing in something is funny, there are much better places to hang out for a laugh besides here.

[lordmiguel]

Originally Posted by nandi

iJust do a research with keyword "2012" . after that...music will be acoustic only, soul and very spiritual oriented, very different. just imagine. tango? country? blues? ethnic? what culture? chinese music? who will survive?

I was dreamin' when I wrote this
Forgive me if it goes astray
But when I woke up this mornin'
Could have sworn it was judgment day

[bcgood]

For some reason 2012 rings true. I'm not sure what will happen but I think something pretty big will happen. I don't think that it's coincidence that the Mayans knew the exact location of our galactic center or the precise movements of stars and the sun in relation to fixed locations on earth. Maybe there was some sort of extraterrestrial contact occuring, who knows.

Did you know that on December 21st, 2012 during sunset a shadow of the Mayan serpent Quetzalcoatl will descend the steps and appear to enter the pyramid of Chichen-Itza? The amount of celestial knowledge and mathematic precision to do that is nothing to scoff at. In fact the Mayans where using the number zero in their calculations far before anyone else on earth. It wasn't until recently that the we discovered the exact location of the center of our galaxy the Milky Way. We now know that the center of our galaxy and probably all others contain a super massive black hole. We still do not know how the Mayans knew the location of the center of our galaxy or the fact that a black hole resides there...

Here is the Mayan symbol for the center of the our galaxy which clearly resembles a black hole.



HUNAB KU - Mayan glyph representing a "black hole" at center of our galaxy

_____________________________________________ ______________

Strange Rumblings at the Center of our Galaxy

by
Hector Carreon
La Voz de Aztlan

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
- Shakespeare in Hamlet -

Radio bursts from the Galactic Center (Hunab Ku).

Physics professor and astronomer Scott Hyman of Sweet Briar College made a startling announcement. Dr. Hyman and his colleagues wrote in the science journal Nature that they had detected something very extraordinary at the center of our Milky Way Galaxy. While analyzing low frequency radio wave images taken by the Very Large Array telescope at Socorro, New Mexico in 2002, Dr. Hyman and his his fellow researchers detected an intermittent signal that seemed intelligently directed. The signal consisted of five highly energetic radio emissions of equal brightness that lasted 10 minutes each and appeared every 77 minutes over a 7-hour period from September 30 to October 1. The discovery has left Professor Scott Hyman and the entire astronomy community "scratching their heads".

What are these strange rumblings at the center of our Galaxy? Modern day astrophysicists and astronomers, with their sophisticated scientific instruments, are not the only humans that have contemplated this very same question. In fact, the ancient Mayas, the superb astronomers and mathematicians that they were, also mused on what may exist at the center of our Galaxy. The Mayas knew exactly where this center was located in the sky and had a glyph representing it named Hunab Ku by Dr. Jose Arguelles of Princeton University, but known to the Mayas as "The Galactic Butterfly". Much more, their entire cosmology and extremely accurate calendars were based on the existence and location of Hunab Ku and they believed that the future of mankind ultimately depends on what occurs there.

Dr. Scott Hyman records energetic radio emmissions from the Galactic Center (Hunab Ku).
Hunab Ku was, to the Mayas, the supreme God and ultimate Creator. It represented the gateway to other Galaxies beyond our Sun as well as all of the Consciousness that has ever existed in this Galaxy. Hunab Ku, according to the Mayas, is also the Consciousness which organized all matter, from a "whirling disk", into stars, planets and solar systems. Hunab Ku is the "Mother Womb" which is constantly giving birth to new stars and it gave birth to our own Sun and Planet Earth. They also believed that the "Creator" directs everything that happens in our Galaxy from its center through the emanation of periodic "Consciousness Energy" bursts. Today, modern astronomers have verified that at the center of our Galaxy is a "whirling disk" with a "Black Hole" at its center that is both swallowing and giving birth to stars. Could the strange rumblings observed by Dr. Scott Hyman and his associates earlier this year at the center of our Galaxy be connected with what the Mayas believed?

There appears to be a convergence between what the Mayas believed and understood and what modern scientists are discovering about our Galaxy today. One big difference is how modern physicists view and how the ancient Mayas viewed "Time". Today, physicists view Time as being linear. Time according to modern precepts flows in a straight line. Time can slow down, as per Albert Einstein, but it always flows in one direction. In contrast, the Mayas believed essentially that Time flows in a circle. There is a beginning and an end to things but there is a renewal at the end of the Time cycle. There is a "periodicity" to all manifested phenomena. The Mayan highly accurate Long Count Calendar is based on this precept. The Mayas also believed that Time originates out of the Hunab Ku and is controlled by it.

It is very difficult to dismiss the Mayan Cosmology because they left extraordinary evidence that their "Time" keeping methodologies give extremely accurate results. Their pyramids like the one at Chichen-Itza in Mexico are precisely aligned to the the yearly Solstices and the Equinoxes that are caused by the precession of the Earth's axis as it orbits the Sun. The Pyramid of Kukulcan at Chichen-Itza is essentially a superb and highly accurate Time keeping devise that never fails to mark the yearly "Precession of the Equinoxes".

The ancient Mayan astronomers accurately predicted, over 1500 years ago, the exact alignment of the Earth, the Sun, the star cluster Pleiades and of the center of our Galaxy that will take place at the end of the present long cycle on the Gregorian year 2012. On the Mayan Long Calendar the day designated as 4 Ahau 3 Kankin (13.0.0.0.0) falls on December 21, 2012 and this day will mark "El Fin de los Tiempos" or the end of the long cycle at which time humanity will experience a new beginning. On this day, according to the Mayas and subsequent Meso-American civilizations, the return of Kukulcan (Quetzalcoatl) will take place.

On December 21, 2012 which coincides with the Winter Solstice and as the Sun sets west of Chichen-Itza, a pattern of shadow and light will project the Plumed Serpent (Quetzalcoatl) descending on the stairs of the pyramid that has a large head of a serpent sculpted in rock at the base. This occurs twice in Chichen Itza every year but on the Winter Solstice of December 21, 2012 something very special will happen. As the Sun sets in the early afternoon, the shadow of the pyramid's northwest edge will project a moving pattern of light that joins and illuminates the sculpted serpent head at the base of the stairway. Within a thirty-four minute period, the serpent, formed by this play of light and shadow will appear to descend to the earth, as the sun leaves each stair, going from the top to the bottom. This combined effect creates the visual appearance of the body of the serpent descending the pyramid. In addition, on December 21, 2012, the tail of the serpent projected up from the top of the pyramid will be pointing precisely to the star cluster Pleiades. The pyramids at Teotihuacán which means "City of the Gods", constructed by a Meso-American civilization just north of Mexico City that preceded the Mayas, are also aligned to the Pleiades as are the Egyptian pyramids at Giza. This is not all, on December 21, 2012 at around 11:11 universal time, there will be a precise alignment of our Sun with the Galactic center (Hunab Ku).

Exactly what will happen on December 21, 2012 still remains a mystery but it seems that we are receiving stronger and stronger clues. The Mayas certainly placed great significance to this date. It is still 4 years away but our World is already experiencing unprecedented, extreme and rapid changes. The number and magnitude of "natural" catastrophes appear to be increasing exponentially. Scientists have detected extreme and erratic behavior in our Sun that in turn is having strong effects on our Earth's atmosphere and measurable effects on the other planets in our solar system as well. Could the strange rumblings detected by Dr. Scott Hyman at the center of our Galaxy be a cause of the weather and other changes we are experiencing here on Earth today? Will these energetic bursts from Hunab Ku increase in number and intensity as we approach the year 2012?

[lozion]

Wow, I've just stumbled on this thread...

What's interesting to note about 2012 is that the idea of a prophecy for a new promising new era is universal. Almost all cultures on the planet have their own version about the passing of an age into something that has to be better then the old one...

Anyway, I find Wilcock explains it pretty well in his series "The road to Ascension":

Project Camelot | David Wilcock (parts 1 to 4)

2012 (for lack of a better term) is also a geological phenomenon that crosses over into metaphysics and spirituality. The theory holds that Earth has a readable frequency that has been observed as slowly but exponentially gaining speed (the cycles get completed faster). In 2012, a shift would occur and the planet would move from the present 3rd to the 4th dimension and all living beings that can "tune" themselves to that new, faster frequency rate would transcend into the new dimension.

Imo, this is happening and is also beyond us so there is no need to panic over this but the problem it seems, is that not all will "make the jump". According to Wilcock, if you deliberately make choices that reflect the dying "order of values", ei, power and control over others, greed, harming others, etc. and continue living your life oblivious to a certain sense of ethics & moral, there are chances you wont be sensitive to the coming vibrationnal shift and wont be able to follow...

As stated before, that present "order of values" is dying and the pyramidal structural schemes associated to it (Govt, Corp, Army, Clergy, etc.) are bound to bite the dust.
Indeed, I think the Triangle will leave the stage and let the Circle do its number, wherein all are concerned (Coops, councils, Athenian Democracy, communities, etc).

Where I have a problem is that the present captains of the ship (I mean the powers behind, the so-called Elite, world Govt, finance moguls, etc.) know this is going to happen but they arent doing anything to ease the passing so I think we're in for a rough ride before we get to the other shore. More famines and financial crisis, energy wars and so forth are likely...

But ultimately, we ALL have to go thru this...

So how will music sound after the shift? I have no clue but you bet it will be good...

[initialsmm]

Rush is off by 100 years, or maybe they know something we don't know.....?

[lordmiguel]

Originally Posted by bcgood

Here is the Mayan symbol for the center of the our galaxy which clearly resembles a black hole.

well, i certainly don't want to hijack this particular thread du jour, ridiculous as it may be but, the Mayan Cymbal seems to ME to reflect:

1) BULLSHIT. According to some early-colonial sources, Hunab Ku, meaning 'Sole God', was the main deity in the Yucatec Mayan pantheon. No images existed of Hunab Ku since he was considered to be without visible form. The concept may have been invented to satisfy the Spanish monks. Hunab Ku is, in any case, closely related to the indigenous creator god, Itzamna.

Popularized by Jose Arguelles in his **esoteric** *******1987****** book The Mayan Factor, the "Hunab Ku" symbol was originally a rectangular symbol used by the Aztecs as a ritual cloak design, known as the Mantle of Lip Plugs (or, arguably, mantle of spider water). The symbol survives today as a rug design being sold in central Mexico, but was associated with the Milky Way and the god Hunab Ku by Arguelles, who changed the symbol to a circular motif. It has become associated with Mayanism.

1987, lets see,,,,,i was rockin out in college on my '74 Brown Strat into my JCM 800 half stack. Doesn't feel very Ancient Mayan to me.

you have been POWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[doorknocker]

.....and you will never hear Surf music again......

[Jam]

To quote Carl Sagan "Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof".

James