Using library music to create new song

Timsplace · 2nd March 2008, 01:51 PM

How do the licensing/royalties (writer's royalty specifically) work if you use a library music bed (that's already been registered/published) in a new song? Can that bed still be used by the library? How do the composers of the new elements get a composers share?

Tim

Energie · 2nd March 2008, 07:30 PM

A roylty free music track doesn't give you the right to take it, add onto it, and call it your own, that would be violating thier EULA as far as every library i have seen. Royalty free allows you to use it in your productions as many times as you want without paying additional synch fees. Roylty free libraries often provide Pro affiliations Info so you can fill out the neccessary cue sheet.

You do NOT own any copyrights of the original track, and therefore cannot take that track and morph it into your own creation, re-copyright it as something you originally did. Can you use the track, add vocals to it and sync it to a production. Yup! can you add vocals or instruments and re-sell, um, no. That would fall into re-packaging, something highly restricted with any software or music company.

Timsplace · 3rd March 2008, 12:09 AM

Let me clarify. I (my company) DOES own the publishing for the music bed (though our composer maintains his writer's share). My questions is concerning compensation for the NEW composer that has added and created a NEW piece (or IS it new)? AND, can the original piece still be used on it's own (according to the original agreement)

Tim

Energie · 3rd March 2008, 01:38 AM

So you own all copyrights to the track?

Why wouldn't the original peice still be able to be used? As far as copyrights, if it was indeed added onto, it would be a derivitive work, and needing a separate copyright to, and owning the orginal copyrighted work, in which you would have to reference date and info when it was last copyrighted, and what was added onto.

As far as writers are concerned, most likely, with the newly added on peice, the writers would just split writers share on it, and the original writer would keep all writers share to the original cut. So with the newly derivitive work, the new writer would own 25 percent, the orginal 25 percent. You would register it as a new peice, or with a new title. Make sure you own all rights.

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2nd March 2008, 01:51 PM	#1
Timsplace Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 117	Using library music to create new song How do the licensing/royalties (writer's royalty specifically) work if you use a library music bed (that's already been registered/published) in a new song? Can that bed still be used by the library? How do the composers of the new elements get a composers share? Tim __________________ Tim Reisig

3rd March 2008, 12:09 AM	#3
Timsplace Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 117	Let me clarify. I (my company) DOES own the publishing for the music bed (though our composer maintains his writer's share). My questions is concerning compensation for the NEW composer that has added and created a NEW piece (or IS it new)? AND, can the original piece still be used on it's own (according to the original agreement) Tim __________________ Tim Reisig

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2nd March 2008, 07:30 PM	#2
Energie Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 782	A roylty free music track doesn't give you the right to take it, add onto it, and call it your own, that would be violating thier EULA as far as every library i have seen. Royalty free allows you to use it in your productions as many times as you want without paying additional synch fees. Roylty free libraries often provide Pro affiliations Info so you can fill out the neccessary cue sheet. You do NOT own any copyrights of the original track, and therefore cannot take that track and morph it into your own creation, re-copyright it as something you originally did. Can you use the track, add vocals to it and sync it to a production. Yup! can you add vocals or instruments and re-sell, um, no. That would fall into re-packaging, something highly restricted with any software or music company.

3rd March 2008, 01:38 AM	#4
Energie Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 782	So you own all copyrights to the track? Why wouldn't the original peice still be able to be used? As far as copyrights, if it was indeed added onto, it would be a derivitive work, and needing a separate copyright to, and owning the orginal copyrighted work, in which you would have to reference date and info when it was last copyrighted, and what was added onto. As far as writers are concerned, most likely, with the newly added on peice, the writers would just split writers share on it, and the original writer would keep all writers share to the original cut. So with the newly derivitive work, the new writer would own 25 percent, the orginal 25 percent. You would register it as a new peice, or with a new title. Make sure you own all rights.