Shall we divide this business forum into two sections? Music Biz / Studio Biz ?

**Jules** · 17th January 2008, 10:54 PM

Shall we divide this business forum into two sections? Music Biz / Studio Biz ?

Thanks to all the people that have asked for this forum..

Good idea..

YOU GOT IT!

Bryan Talbot · 17th January 2008, 11:04 PM

Sort of tempting to have them separate, but really, they are intertwined. I see a lot of studio biz rants in the Moan Zone, and maybe that's as it should be, but it would be great to talk about music biz stuff as it relates to the studio.

The poll will decide.

Thanks for such a great forum Jules!

Sqye · 17th January 2008, 11:07 PM

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yes, VERY appropriate - mui beuno!

i was just wondering when this was going to happen - given all the other areas here.

awesome.

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juicylime · 17th January 2008, 11:07 PM

Hey Jules, great to have this forum!

I reckon that because the real backbone to GS is gear based it would be good to keep it altogether. I think the overall quality of the passing traffic would be a lot higher than if it was just an industry forum with the studio biz stuff. If it was just muso biz you might end up with too many "how can I get a record deal" threads.

**Jules** · 17th January 2008, 11:23 PM

I see 3 basic categories of topics

Music biz as it relates to - bands / artists / studio owners

Recording studio biz as it relates to studio owners

General music biz (the big issues, corporate level stuff that effects everyone)

Its all pretty different..

Perhaps this forum should be 'private' and not visible if you aren't logged in.. (sorry lurkers!) ? Perhaps not.. opinions?

I agree we don't want to get to many 'how do I get signed'? threads or people signing up just to ask that sort of stuff..

Should we leave the studio related business stuff - in the regular forums?

Sqye · 17th January 2008, 11:29 PM

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i think the 3 basic categories are fine.

you could have a separate "how can i get a record deal" thread....

(more focused, and not exclusive that way...)....there'll be tons of inexperienced posters, but so what - the more the merrier. and it's certainly a topic tons of people are interested in.....most, i'd say.

general shopping your music + resources / links, etc.

or stickies at the tops of the other respective threads...(please no "how do i get a record deal?" posts) - only that'll never work.....

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AllAboutTone · 17th January 2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sqye

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you could have a separate "how can i get a record deal" thread....

omg lets don't, leave that to American Idol...lol

Jules,

do what's best !!!

Sqye · 17th January 2008, 11:42 PM

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jules, you've almost caught up to thrill in postcount.

nice sneaks, btw...

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big country · 17th January 2008, 11:50 PM

Business is business
studios have offices keep it simple and leave the business in the studio

ALL*MYTEE · 18th January 2008, 01:14 AM

Hi Jules--

Good idea. I think if it's divided they'll both be too small. A bigger forum where a bit more searching is required is likely more valuable (from a business standpoint

) in my opinion.

Savernake · 18th January 2008, 02:12 AM

It would help separate to have two forums... but it'll be nice to skim all the good business info on one page. It's all intertwined and there's already too many forums for me to read anyway, I find I just check the 'so much gear' one. I say see how it goes as one forum for a week or two then see if it needs splitting then.

big country · 18th January 2008, 02:31 AM

so far I'm not liking democracy

I'm curious as to how Jules voted

**Jules** · 18th January 2008, 02:49 PM

I haven't voted yet, Still on the fence..

**Jules** · 18th January 2008, 09:05 PM

OK I voted to split them..

Reasons being -

This is a recording engineers & producers forum - first and a musicians forum second. (Obviously there is a HUGE amount of crossover with self recording musicians, no question..

Even with that in mind, to support studios and 'studio people' I think a section dedicated to the business issues of running a studio or working in them might be a good idea.
Poll still open

Sqye · 18th January 2008, 09:12 PM

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trustyjim · 19th January 2008, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juicylime

I reckon that because the real backbone to GS is gear based it would be good to keep it altogether. I think the overall quality of the passing traffic would be a lot higher than if it was just an industry forum with the studio biz stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALL*MYTEE

I think if it's divided they'll both be too small. A bigger forum where a bit more searching is required is likely more valuable (from a business standpoint

) in my opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savernake

...but it'll be nice to skim all the good business info on one page. It's all intertwined and there's already too many forums for me to read anyway, I find I just check the 'so much gear' one.

These are my feelings exactly.

**Jules** · 20th January 2008, 11:14 PM

Perhaps just putting them all in So Much Gear So Much Time forum would do fine...?

Do they NEED a separate sub forum?

Perhaps removing all the business stuff might "mug" the So Much Gear forum of stuff that makes it interesting to skim through the topic list?

Usually the reason NOT to create another forum on GS is that it might dilute the others..

I am kinda missing the interesting biz stuff side by side with regular gear chatter..

Hmmm...

This was always a trial anyhow..

Lets see how it goes..

Also - I could TAG the threads "Music Business" and "Studio Business" and encourage you all to MAKE USE THE TAGS MORE!

(I am not kidding)

"Gear business" ???

juicylime · 2nd February 2008, 08:42 PM

I'm going to change my mind and suggest that all business posts are left in so little gear so little time. I don't think they need their own forum in that they aren't causing a problem and they do bring an extra dimension to the main forum. I think that more people would get involved with them than they would in their own forum.

Can you believe I was actually lying in bed last night thinking about this?!

Sqye · 10th February 2008, 04:10 AM

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yes, indeed, JL, we are BORED bored people.

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**Jules** · 3rd March 2008, 02:45 PM

There isnt enough of a split to make me want to leap into action to split the forum up further..

Kelly644 · 2nd April 2008, 04:15 AM

I dont think it should be. Besides that they're intertwined, more people looking at the same forum means more answers to questions.

I do think the Music & Studio Business forum should be on the front page and shouldnt be a subforum. It's fairly distinct from the others and is kinda important.

soupking · 5th April 2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

I see 3 basic categories of topics

Music biz as it relates to - bands / artists / studio owners

Recording studio biz as it relates to studio owners

General music biz (the big issues, corporate level stuff that effects everyone)

Its all pretty different..

Perhaps this forum should be 'private' and not visible if you aren't logged in.. (sorry lurkers!) ? Perhaps not.. opinions?

I agree we don't want to get to many 'how do I get signed'? threads or people signing up just to ask that sort of stuff..

Should we leave the studio related business stuff - in the regular forums?

Way vague.

Over-creating like the 'New' Classifieds.

The only thing that needs reform is the main section. It's monopolizing other areas for use.

Don;t generalize special areas. Specialize the general. ;)

This site rocks. Keep it up.

As far as privatizing, what's really private anyway? What do I know?

Thanks Jules & Co.
-soupking

Clueless · 1st May 2008, 01:06 PM

Keep it together, but use tags for people who care about only one sub-topic. They really are intertwined, I believe, and it would be good to be able to see the back and forth from different perspectives about topics that lead to common fates.

theGeek · 1st May 2008, 10:54 PM

**Jules** · 21st June 2008, 11:08 AM

Jules was here...

kafka · 1st July 2008, 01:08 AM

Keep them together. Separating them just means you have to search in more places to find something. It also means that you'll have more parts of the forum that will become "dead zones" that won't get serious participation. This section is pretty quiet as it is.

dangoudie · 1st July 2008, 01:35 AM

I like then being in one place. I don't think it is busy enough to have it's own.

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View Poll Results: Shall we devide this business forum into two sections? Music Biz / Studio Biz ?
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17th January 2008, 10:54 PM	#1
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	Shall we divide this business forum into two sections? Music Biz / Studio Biz ? Shall we divide this business forum into two sections? Music Biz / Studio Biz ? Thanks to all the people that have asked for this forum.. Good idea.. YOU GOT IT! __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

17th January 2008, 11:04 PM	#2
Bryan Talbot Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: cloud nine Posts: 1,792	Sort of tempting to have them separate, but really, they are intertwined. I see a lot of studio biz rants in the Moan Zone, and maybe that's as it should be, but it would be great to talk about music biz stuff as it relates to the studio. The poll will decide. Thanks for such a great forum Jules! __________________ "and a turbine fire truck with no brakes it would teach people to get the fuk out of the way" - big country

17th January 2008, 11:07 PM	#3
Sqye Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad Posts: 5,005	. yes, VERY appropriate - mui beuno! i was just wondering when this was going to happen - given all the other areas here. awesome. . __________________ Sqye (sky) *wired planet new music CREDITS link directly above ipod player *wired planet *fallen planet "he who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death" .... Thomas Paine

17th January 2008, 11:07 PM	#4
juicylime Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 680	Hey Jules, great to have this forum! I reckon that because the real backbone to GS is gear based it would be good to keep it altogether. I think the overall quality of the passing traffic would be a lot higher than if it was just an industry forum with the studio biz stuff. If it was just muso biz you might end up with too many "how can I get a record deal" threads. __________________ Saved. By the buoyancy of citrus.

17th January 2008, 11:23 PM	#5
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	I see 3 basic categories of topics Music biz as it relates to - bands / artists / studio owners Recording studio biz as it relates to studio owners General music biz (the big issues, corporate level stuff that effects everyone) Its all pretty different.. Perhaps this forum should be 'private' and not visible if you aren't logged in.. (sorry lurkers!) ? Perhaps not.. opinions? I agree we don't want to get to many 'how do I get signed'? threads or people signing up just to ask that sort of stuff.. Should we leave the studio related business stuff - in the regular forums? __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

17th January 2008, 11:29 PM	#6
Sqye Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad Posts: 5,005	. i think the 3 basic categories are fine. you could have a separate "how can i get a record deal" thread.... (more focused, and not exclusive that way...)....there'll be tons of inexperienced posters, but so what - the more the merrier. and it's certainly a topic tons of people are interested in.....most, i'd say. general shopping your music + resources / links, etc. or stickies at the tops of the other respective threads...(please no "how do i get a record deal?" posts) - only that'll never work..... . __________________ Sqye (sky) *wired planet new music CREDITS link directly above ipod player *wired planet *fallen planet "he who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death" .... Thomas Paine

17th January 2008, 11:42 PM	#8
Sqye Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad Posts: 5,005	. jules, you've almost caught up to thrill in postcount. nice sneaks, btw... . __________________ Sqye (sky) *wired planet new music CREDITS link directly above ipod player *wired planet *fallen planet "he who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death" .... Thomas Paine

17th January 2008, 11:50 PM	#9
big country Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Location: fullerton Ca, Posts: 4,471	Business is business studios have offices keep it simple and leave the business in the studio __________________ Matt A saying is a good rule of thumb if you cant think for your self

18th January 2008, 01:14 AM	#10
ALL*MYTEE Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 594	Hi Jules-- Good idea. I think if it's divided they'll both be too small. A bigger forum where a bit more searching is required is likely more valuable (from a business standpoint ) in my opinion. __________________ Eben Carlson www.whiteg.com www.whitegoldsoundsystem.com

18th January 2008, 02:12 AM	#11
Savernake Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 370	It would help separate to have two forums... but it'll be nice to skim all the good business info on one page. It's all intertwined and there's already too many forums for me to read anyway, I find I just check the 'so much gear' one. I say see how it goes as one forum for a week or two then see if it needs splitting then.

18th January 2008, 02:31 AM	#12
big country Lives for gear Join Date: May 2006 Location: fullerton Ca, Posts: 4,471	so far I'm not liking democracy I'm curious as to how Jules voted __________________ Matt A saying is a good rule of thumb if you cant think for your self

18th January 2008, 02:49 PM	#13
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	I haven't voted yet, Still on the fence.. __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

18th January 2008, 09:05 PM	#14
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	OK I voted to split them.. Reasons being - This is a recording engineers & producers forum - first and a musicians forum second. (Obviously there is a HUGE amount of crossover with self recording musicians, no question.. Even with that in mind, to support studios and 'studio people' I think a section dedicated to the business issues of running a studio or working in them might be a good idea. Poll still open __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

18th January 2008, 09:12 PM	#15
Sqye Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad Posts: 5,005	. . __________________ Sqye (sky) *wired planet new music CREDITS link directly above ipod player *wired planet *fallen planet "he who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death" .... Thomas Paine

20th January 2008, 11:14 PM	#17
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	Perhaps just putting them all in So Much Gear So Much Time forum would do fine...? Do they NEED a separate sub forum? Perhaps removing all the business stuff might "mug" the So Much Gear forum of stuff that makes it interesting to skim through the topic list? Usually the reason NOT to create another forum on GS is that it might dilute the others.. I am kinda missing the interesting biz stuff side by side with regular gear chatter.. Hmmm... This was always a trial anyhow.. Lets see how it goes.. Also - I could TAG the threads "Music Business" and "Studio Business" and encourage you all to MAKE USE THE TAGS MORE! (I am not kidding) "Gear business" ??? __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

2nd February 2008, 08:42 PM	#18
juicylime Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 680	I'm going to change my mind and suggest that all business posts are left in so little gear so little time. I don't think they need their own forum in that they aren't causing a problem and they do bring an extra dimension to the main forum. I think that more people would get involved with them than they would in their own forum. Can you believe I was actually lying in bed last night thinking about this?! __________________ Saved. By the buoyancy of citrus.

10th February 2008, 04:10 AM	#19
Sqye Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: undergound railroad Posts: 5,005	. yes, indeed, JL, we are BORED bored people. . __________________ Sqye (sky) *wired planet new music CREDITS link directly above ipod player *wired planet *fallen planet "he who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death" .... Thomas Paine

3rd March 2008, 02:45 PM	#20
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	There isnt enough of a split to make me want to leap into action to split the forum up further.. __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

2nd April 2008, 04:15 AM	#21
Kelly644 Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 339	I dont think it should be. Besides that they're intertwined, more people looking at the same forum means more answers to questions. I do think the Music & Studio Business forum should be on the front page and shouldnt be a subforum. It's fairly distinct from the others and is kinda important. __________________ "One of the problems with 1073 is it isn't tube." - Vernier - August 22, 07

1st May 2008, 01:06 PM	#23
Clueless Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 445	Keep it together, but use tags for people who care about only one sub-topic. They really are intertwined, I believe, and it would be good to be able to see the back and forth from different perspectives about topics that lead to common fates. __________________ Manifold Recording / The Miraverse My blog My gearslutz Construction thread

1st May 2008, 10:54 PM	#24
theGeek Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 370	yes __________________ theGeek Handbuilt Les Paul Copy Handbuilt Tele Copy Handbuilt Flying V Variax Acoustic Marshall Plexi Clone Avatar 212 with Vintage 30's Lopo Line Slant 212 with Greenbacks

21st June 2008, 11:08 AM	#25
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 10,891	Jules was here... __________________ Jules " After Dino and I modded my amp, every time i hit a low B, it sounds like the members of Hierarchical Punish are in my basement, beating the members of Civilization Hatred to death with amplified, unbridled metal brutality." - Rip Glitter

1st July 2008, 01:08 AM	#26
kafka Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 873	Keep them together. Separating them just means you have to search in more places to find something. It also means that you'll have more parts of the forum that will become "dead zones" that won't get serious participation. This section is pretty quiet as it is. __________________ It looks just like a Telefunken U47 - with leather. You'll love it ...

1st July 2008, 01:35 AM	#27
dangoudie Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brighton/London Posts: 293	I like then being in one place. I don't think it is busy enough to have it's own. __________________ NEW WEBSITE! Engineer/Producer www.DanGoudie.com I'd love your comments as I've never done it before. Musician www.myspace.com/BigDanSings

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