I have attached my movie soundtrack, completely composed,programmed and mixed by me. Take a listen guys. If you are interested do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks fellow slutz. I am truly enjoying this advanced digital age, because the lines between music composing, producing, programming, mixing really got blurred. At the end of the day its all about joy ride. Good luck.
They only reason I'm aware of this is because I just joined Gearslutz today, so I had to read the TOS:
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19. Please do not post ‘check out this mix!’ or ‘advice requested on my song!’ type posts in the open forums. There is a Work-In-Progress / Advice Requested subforum for this purpose. Posts of this type outside of that subforum will be deleted and warnings/infractions issued.
What do you mean? I am a serious music composer. This is an action film and this music is the prelude to the film. My music scores are highly praised by Maestro Zubin mehta and other top musicians. Below is the professor of music and symphony orchestra conductors opinion about my symphony {composed when I was 17}:
To Whom It May Concern:
It was my privilege to go through and study the score of the g-minor symphony written by this amazing young composer. The maturity of this major work belies both his age and his background. It is truly a fine work, complete with good ideas, solid form and orchestration that would be equal or superior to the work of many “arrived” composers.
With great interest, I will follow this outstanding talent, who, I’m sure, will startle the world of music.
Admiringly,
William Skelton
Professor of Music, Emeritus
Former Conductor, Colgate Concert Orchestra
Director, India Study Group
Colgate University
Hamilton, New York
U.S.A.
They only reason I'm aware of this is because I just joined Gearslutz today, so I had to read the TOS:
So, uh...
I am not asking for any comments. Just discussing today's trend in post production process. I am talking about the lines blurred between composing, producing,recording,mixing stages. You can also see the below post and understand what I mean.
The lines aren't blurred. Theyre still distinct. Just thy use smaller outsources these days or companies like cutting edge. The business model has changed, not been removed.
The lines aren't blurred. Theyre still distinct. Just thy use smaller outsources these days or companies like cutting edge. The business model has changed, not been removed.
Why did you post your music by the way?
IMO,Advancing Technology seriously makes the lines blurred. Because, it is making musician to have all these things within his hands reach. In my case, I have my own high end recording studio with all the gears that high end post facility can offer. Even in my programming workstation, I use 5.1 Equator Q15 Monitors with sub.
Why did you post your music by the way?
Because, to show the results done by a musician.
I regularly give my music as a single 5.1 track for post production, so they can balance the music master with the dialogues,FX.
IMO,Advancing Technology seriously makes the lines blurred.
How so? I've yet tp hear a mix done by someone under 35 ish that is any good. Even more so in the soundtrack world. Composition and Production - sure... heard lots that has greta potential and works very well from composers as you as 30. But I've never, I mean NEVER heard a mix that sits up next to someone who's spent 20 years perfecting her/his workflow.
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Because, it is making musician to have all these things within his hands reach.
Putting a fast racing car in the hands of everyone does not a race car driver make. Putting technology in inexperienced hands does not make a great post production mixer. The lines haven't blurred. In fact - I've seen many people try to be all things; can't think of very many composer/producer/mixers that are top of their game. In fact I can't actually think of ANY outside of some EDM music.
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In my case, I have my own high end recording studio with all the gears that high end post facility can offer.
Well thats' great. Define high end though? Also - owning equipment doesn't maketh the man or woman. Experience does. Youth and vigour will get you through EDM genres; and more power to them.
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Originally Posted by Newwavemix
Even in my programming workstation, I use 5.1 Equator Q15 Monitors with sub.
Why did you post your music by the way?
Because, to show the results done by a musician.
I regularly give my music as a single 5.1 track for post production, so they can balance the music master with the dialogues,FX.
I cant comment on the music and nor should I . Art is art ( although sounded like a VST version of a Paul Haslinger track). I could comment on the mix or programming if you like?
Without the picture you composed it to, though, I can't give you any feedback with regard to suitability. I only know this - I work in score mixing for film and media - I get hired by producers to rework mixes or sort out music from composers, and often the composer is extremely fekking offended! What they don't realise is that those who no longer composer can look at the details without a sense of personal investment. It's why working on your own is a waste of time or at best quite low brow. You don't get big gigs doing it all yourself. The nearest I know who gets to that is Gareth Johnson but he doesn't often do all roles in each project.
I cant comment on the music and nor should I . Art is art ( although sounded like a VST version of a Paul Haslinger track). I could comment on the mix or programming if you like?
To me it sounded like a really weak version of this style:
@Newwavemix: Clouser hangs around here sometimes, you should check out his posts.
How so? I've yet tp hear a mix done by someone under 35 ish that is any good. Even more so in the soundtrack world. Composition and Production - sure... heard lots that has greta potential and works very well from composers as you as 30. But I've never, I mean NEVER heard a mix that sits up next to someone who's spent 20 years perfecting her/his workflow.
Putting a fast racing car in the hands of everyone does not a race car driver make. Putting technology in inexperienced hands does not make a great post production mixer. The lines haven't blurred. In fact - I've seen many people try to be all things; can't think of very many composer/producer/mixers that are top of their game. In fact I can't actually think of ANY outside of some EDM music.
Well thats' great. Define high end though? Also - owning equipment doesn't maketh the man or woman. Experience does. Youth and vigour will get you through EDM genres; and more power to them.
I cant comment on the music and nor should I . Art is art ( although sounded like a VST version of a Paul Haslinger track). I could comment on the mix or programming if you like?
Without the picture you composed it to, though, I can't give you any feedback with regard to suitability. I only know this - I work in score mixing for film and media - I get hired by producers to rework mixes or sort out music from composers, and often the composer is extremely fekking offended! What they don't realise is that those who no longer composer can look at the details without a sense of personal investment. It's why working on your own is a waste of time or at best quite low brow. You don't get big gigs doing it all yourself. The nearest I know who gets to that is Gareth Johnson but he doesn't often do all roles in each project.
I respect all the peoples involved in different stages. I am not offending any mixers. Mixer is like a orchestral conductor. Its not like that only the conductor can able to execute the music well. A Composer can also able to bring the music well [ex:gustav mahler]. Its the same thing happening in the overdubbed music in this recording era.
I only listened to a little of the original post. I agree it's not super impressive on its own but how can you comment on a score for motion picture WITHOUT THe PICTURE?!?!?! If it supports the actions and emotions on screen and the director feels like his/her vision is achieved then that's what matters.
To critique the piece alone, I'd say it sounds like a low budget MOW or video game at most. Too electronic for my tastes. The Clouser does sound more "pro" But maybe with the image it works perfectly. We will never know so its a moot point without its accompanying picture.
The forums rules state not to post mixes for comments fine. But the OP decides to disobey that he can at least post his score with the picture or its pointless
To critique the piece alone, I'd say it sounds like a low budget MOW or video game at most. Too electronic for my tastes.
Couldn't have said it any better, it's not bad, but the sounds are quite generic, mastering is not going to improve that.
For me, you blew it in your "serious composer/praise" post. Oh and the part about "I have all the highend gear"didn't help either. And lines are getting blurred, but that's because of more people failing to recognize quality and/or the willingness/ability to pay for it.
And lines are getting blurred, but that's because of more people failing to recognize quality and/or the willingness/ability to pay for it.
I don't think the lines ARE blurred... not on "product" anyway. The money's down, absolutely, but the money end of the biz (i.e. movies, TV and games that make money - actually even those that dont but at least have a production budget) haven't shied away yet. Yet!!
I don't think the lines ARE blurred... not on "product" anyway. The money's down, absolutely, but the money end of the biz (i.e. movies, TV and games that make money - actually even those that dont but at least have a production budget) haven't shied away yet. Yet!!
I'm not on the money end of the biz, but I know I'm not alone. For laughs, I just came back from a meeting to discuss audio post on a 45 minute "adventurer" doc. Shot largely by the adventurer himself on small HD-cams and GoPro's, so you know what to expect.
Total production budget: 100K euro, time/budget for audio post (plain stereo, M&E and stems) 2 days for a grand total of 1000 euro...
This is a commissioned program by a national broadcaster and the budget was "dictated" by the broadcaster to the production companies. "This is what we budget if we have it mixed by our inhouse soundstudio".
Couldn't have said it any better, it's not bad, but the sounds are quite generic, mastering is not going to improve that.
For me, you blew it in your "serious composer/praise" post. Oh and the part about "I have all the highend gear"didn't help either. And lines are getting blurred, but that's because of more people failing to recognize quality and/or the willingness/ability to pay for it.
Nowadays, digital technology eases the musician to achieve his mixing results in the same league. Quality wise, My output translates very well on both theaters and consumer formats. Directors and producers are happy.
Overly squashed dynamics, sounds too quiet in theatrical world. How can you tell that "I have all the highend gear"didn't help either". In my side all are happy. Going to track orchestra. Good luck.
Nowadays, digital technology eases the musician to achieve his mixing results in the same league.
No it doesn't. It gives you tools such that you might be able to do it - but as I mentioned earlier - I find very few people who CAN do it. The tech has a unfortunate side effect - a lot of people THINK they can now produce what CLA does. There is a difference between what a person thinks they scan do and what the rest of the market thinks.
Wow. I stumbled upon this post. I couldn't stop reading. Tried to but couldn't. Wow is all I can say. As someone said earlier, to say you are a film composer but provide an example of only audio, it doesn't truly show film composing. It shows you can produce music.
And your example is something along the lines if electronic music. It's not something dramatic or emotional like a Hams Zimmer piece.
If all I was able to do was "hear" that piece, I'd say good track. But to say you composed that piece for film, I'd need to see the film as well.
No it doesn't. It gives you tools such that you might be able to do it - but as I mentioned earlier - I find very few people who CAN do it. The tech has a unfortunate side effect - a lot of people THINK they can now produce what CLA does. There is a difference between what a person thinks they scan do and what the rest of the market thinks.
I agree, you can get cheap tools now. But putting a six year old in the seat of a Lamborghini doesn't mean he knows how to drive it.
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