Organizing and auditioning splits in music library...

[Prathap]

Try Digibase from ProTools.

[pethenis]

I don't understand the question. You edit a stereo track and after that you try to line up the multitracks to that?

[smurfyou]

I think I understand what you're trying to do. I think the first option of revealing the files in Finder from Soundminer is the simplest.

This sounds like a nice feature request for sound library programs. I wonder if NetMix could do it. I believe they've done custom programming in the past.

[NReichman]

Hey guys- thanks for reading.

I don't understand the question. You edit a stereo track and after that you try to line up the multitracks to that?

Yes, Soundminer is where I audition full mixes of music cues. When it comes time to spot a cue, most of the time I'll need to spot the multitrack to get everything right.

I wish Soundminer or Digibase would let me audition and spot clip groups. Right now I've settled on putting clip groups in the Finder next to every full mix. Thanks Smurfyou.

Years ago, I had a chat with Soundminer's Steve Pecile about implementing this. They were interested.

The only other thing I can think of is some form of polyphonic AIFF file...

[NReichman]

The plot thickens:

Quicktime Pro can make a polyphonic AIFF which will load into Pro Tools. Digibase can audition it (9 stereo channels play as 18 mono), but Soundminer (not SM Pro) can only audition the first track in the polyphonic AIFF.

Making these polyphonic files in QT Pro is tedious. This might not be faster than clip groups.

Does anyone know of a piece of software (besides QT Pro) that can export single polyphonic audio files from a bunch of separate files?

[minister]

In Soundminer Pro you can use Rewire to audition Multi-channel files. You need to setup the channels in SM Pro for the files. I do this frequently with M/S, Quad, and 5.1 files I use. Of course, you need to have the appropriate audition setup in PT. But 9 stereo channels.....I dunno.

Neyinck makes a product that handles 8 channel files with Soundcode Exchange. Maybe ask Paul. I can't tell from his website if his software will help you do what you want to do.

My low rent solution would be to work with the stereo mix files to audition, then, once in the sequence, import the stems and line them up. Snap to the head of the file is easy. If you have to do a lot of editing, you could just audition the stereo mix, then import all stems, turn off the other stem tracks, but make them part of the Edit Group. Then you can cut and x-fade all while only auditioning the stereo mix.

[ErikG]

It really ought to be possible.
I have experienced that when splitting multichannel audio to mono, some times soundminer still sees it as a number of multichannel sounds and will drop them all into pt when spotting.
This has to be in the metadata as the files themselves in my case really are mono. But still they spot into pt as several channels.

This might just work with mono files but it really should be possible to implement in soundminer so when you preview the stereo track and then spot it all the "linked" files would also be imported.

In Nuendos search system we can create clip packages that do exactly this. Very handy. You can preview the mixdown and when importing all the original elements are put into the project, with or without automation.

[NReichman]

My low rent solution would be to work with the stereo mix files to audition, then, once in the sequence, import the stems and line them up. Snap to the head of the file is easy. If you have to do a lot of editing, you could just audition the stereo mix, then import all stems, turn off the other stem tracks, but make them part of the Edit Group. Then you can cut and x-fade all while only auditioning the stereo mix.

Yes, I think that's as good as it's going to get. The surround options aren't going to give me an arbitrarily large enough number of channels. For now, I have stereo files in Soundminer, and clip groups with the same name as the stereo file (Name 214m102.wav/Name 214m102.cgrp) next to them in the Finder.

In Nuendos search system we can create clip packages that do exactly this. Very handy. You can preview the mixdown and when importing all the original elements are put into the project, with or without automation.

OMG. I did a 3-day crash course of Nuendo last year and thought it was great. Didn't know it could do that. What a great program. Thanks for posting.

Last, I have unilaterally decided that the entire audio post-production community should follow my guidelines and call multitrack music tracks (bass/drums/strings...) splits, and post-production subgroups (dialog/music/ambiences...) stems. Thoughts?

[NReichman]

Ideascale suggestion to allow Digibase to audition clip groups:

Allow Digibase to audition clip groups. - Pro Tools Feedback Community - by IdeaScale


Thanks.