Fancy LOOKING plugins that don't do anything?

[Misja]

Originally Posted by jordanvoth

Why not just turn the bass up?
I agree that in some cases the client may not be able to express what they want to hear very well but maybe talk with them about it..
"Is it more bottom end you want"
"are you looking to hear the attack of the bass more?"

We all at this forum know that those two things are totally different than just grabbing the bass and turning it up. It could mean eq, or compression or automation. Whatever. Try to communicate with your clients before you get to this stage.

Yeah thanks for this...

The thing is when in those sessions there is already a vibe. It's not about turning op bass.

Anyways you don't get it!

[dr_Jezz]

Like everyone says, but simpler, do what they want when they ask until they say 'yeah' and then do the right thing afterward and see if they notice. I did a recording for a potential TV thing in Portugal recently by a bass player who couldn't play guitar, and the demo was good, but the guitar player they brought in subsequently wasn't. Simple - I put all the effects the second guy, who couldn't play as well as the bass player, wnated on the first guy, and even the first guy was happier. I did try to tell the bassist, and I'm certain no one is looking for royalties, but this thread is about the absolute truth

[Bunjji]

Pull up a compressor, put the threshhold to zero, then start twisting random knobs

[samsam]

Just do what I did last night while demoing DMGA Audio Equick, a very pretty plugin - adjust it for a couple of minutes on an already effected piano track without realizing id put it on a different, muted track. Duh.

[joeq]

Originally Posted by audioconsult

That works with musicans.. But having people from the advertising industry in the studio? ...
As higher the rank and age as more likely the option A type gets, the management positions.. that actually makes it harder to impossible to fool them.. they do quick decisions and stick to that.. As less they know about the topic as harder they stick to option A. You find that type in other businesses too.

It´s pretty useless to play improved versions to them after a placebo because thats always a B choice for them than.

Time for the old "hairy arm"!

[Wesley Krusher]

On the remote of the Dangerous Monitor ST, there is a switch that lights up, but does nothing. They have labeled it "PPI", for Producer Pacification Indicator.

But, yeah, I could definitely use a plugin version of Funk Logic's Palindrometer.

[jimmyklane]

Originally Posted by jordanvoth

Why not just turn the bass up?
I agree that in some cases the client may not be able to express what they want to hear very well but maybe talk with them about it..
"Is it more bottom end you want"
"are you looking to hear the attack of the bass more?"

We all at this forum know that those two things are totally different than just grabbing the bass and turning it up. It could mean eq, or compression or automation. Whatever. Try to communicate with your clients before you get to this stage.

Jordan, I think this is sound advice... But once in a blue moon you get somebody in the studio, in a position of nominal(and probably marginal) authority that has NO business influencing the mix. In that case, you have to jump into "harm reduction mode" and stop them from messing up the product! If the artist or producer asks for changes that I think will detract, then we talk about it...after all, we behind the glass are psychologists of a sort, and have the egos of sensitive and creative people in our hands. Those people should not be tricked, they should be worked with....
It's when the manager or agent or girlfriend or whatever walks in and starts asking for changes and the band can't or won't speak up that you might be forced to take some action, if ever.
You can also SAY NO, and then prove that you're correct to do so by delivering a killer mix that sounds good everywhere the artist plays it, although the knucklehead that wanted unnecessary changes may still never be happy as you flouted his/her "authority"....
Once in a while, "creative routing" may be neccesary!

[dubmunkey]

Originally Posted by TNM

waves vocal rider. it doesn't work, period.

the new melda one is way uglier but works perfectly "out of the box".

Que? I have both, not used vocal rider yet but bass rider def works...

How is it not working for you?

[dubmunkey]

Originally Posted by drakewire

Sure, its called a plugin.... Sorry if you were looking for a better answer...

Think he just wants one that isn't total BS

[gussyg2007]

Originally Posted by JRo

Them: "Could you turn up the bass in the guitar a bit?"

Me: "Of course."
-open up flashing-lights and meters plugin, adjust something that does nothing.

Them: "Ok, that's WAY better now."



I've heard there are some goofy fake plugins that do this? Anybody recommend any?

Slate VTM

[Mister Fox]

Originally Posted by Arsene

Not really plug-ins, but check out Funklogic's stuff... Works for me everytime!!

Wrote them two times by now with own ideas (since they offer a custom design service), they never got back to me.


Well, I could build some stuff myself if I wouldn't be so lazy. But I don't know where to get 19" rack cases for such purpose, or how to make proper prints. :shrug:

Else, yes... sometimes I do see the need to fool certain, er... guests in the studio. But that Aechonic Room thing is turning pretty old by now.

[PeteJames]

The fanciest looking 3 band EQ I've ever seen :D